Was Jesus Created?

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
No your limited knowledge that you crow about exposes your ignorance.

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ April 03 2012,18:52)

Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,14:33) Quote (jammin @ April 03 2012,13:36) the WOrd is Christ in john 1.1 nick. now if you dont believe what john said, then make your own version LOL Hi Jammin, “Christ” is not mentioned in John 1:1, perhaps you need to make your own version? Nice try though, Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org really? LOL John 1:1 Amplified Bible (AMP) John 1 1IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word ([a]Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself. that's a word for word in the bible. now give me a version that says that the WORD is the HS in john 1.1 any version edj. just read it to me that the WORD in john 1.1 refers to the HS. i double dare you. but if you cant give me one then you have to publish your own version LOL

Hi Jammin,

It looks like someone has already made
a version of men for you, so you don't have to.
YHVH will open your eyes to the truth someday Jammin.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

really edj???
LOL

i double dare you edj,
give a version that says in john 1.1 that the WORD is the HS.

you may start searching LOL

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
You will need spiritual eyes to continue your journey.

Now Jesus is the WORD

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ April 03 2012,13:52)

Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,14:33) Quote (jammin @ April 03 2012,13:36) the WOrd is Christ in john 1.1 nick. now if you dont believe what john said, then make your own version LOL Hi Jammin, “Christ” is not mentioned in John 1:1, perhaps you need to make your own version? Nice try though, Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org really? LOL John 1:1 Amplified Bible (AMP) John 1 1IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word ([a]Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself. that's a word for word in the bible. now give me a version that says that the WORD is the HS in john 1.1 any version edj. just read it to me that the WORD in john 1.1 refers to the HS. i double dare you. but if you cant give me one then you have to publish your own version LOL

Jammin,

The words in []'s and ()'s are comments on the translated text and not text.

[jammin]

no need for explanation kerwin.
that's what the bible says.

now give me any single translation that says that the word in john 1.1 is the HS.
i double dare you

you may now start searching LOL

[mikeboll64]

Nick,

I asked you if the Word ever STOPPED being God, since you insist upon the faulty, nonsensical, Trinitarian translation of John 1:1, which has the Word both BEING God and also being WITH God.  

Your first response was:

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,20:52)

Hi MB, Scripture says the Word was God. Now the Word is the Son of God, Jesus Christ.

That would lead me to believe that you think the Word DID stop being God, and became His Son instead.

But then, a couple of posts later, you said:

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,22:02)

Hi MB, How could God stop being God?

So I'm confused Nick.  Which one of your two, conflicting statements do you really believe?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (toby @ April 02 2012,23:45)

Yes, Jesus was Created.

Thank you.  No further questions.

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ April 04 2012,12:16)

really edj??? LOL i double dare you edj, give a version that says in john 1.1 that the WORD is the HS. you may start searching LOL

Hi Jammin,

Putting 'spin' on God's word mean nothing, men put too much
credence in their own understanding. (see Isaiah 55:7-11)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,12:30)

Jammin, The words in []'s and ()'s are comments on the translated text and not text.

Hi Kerwin,

Jammin's eyes are closed, he can't hear you.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ April 04 2012,07:34)

no need for explanation kerwin. that's what the bible says. now give me any single translation that says that the word in john 1.1 is the HS. i double dare you you may now start searching LOL

Jammin,

I was not explaining any thing.  I was teaching you about the use of []'s and ()'s.  Be careful that Satan does not lure you into arrogance.

I believe the Word in John 1:1 is the same Word God created the heavens and the earth by; in which life is.

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
But not eternal life.
That is in the Son.

When he shares his Spirit with us he shares eternal life with us

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,16:09)

Quote (jammin @ April 04 2012,07:34) no need for explanation kerwin. that's what the bible says. now give me any single translation that says that the word in john 1.1 is the HS. i double dare you you may now start searching LOL Jammin, I was not explaining any thing.  I was teaching you about the use of []'s and ()'s.  Be careful that Satan does not lure you into arrogance. I believe the Word in John 1:1 is the same Word God created the heavens and the earth by; in which life is.

Hi Kerwin, many do not have spiritual eyes to understand this simple truth.

“And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said,” (Gen 1:2-3)
                                     …………………………………………………………….
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2012,12:58)

Nick, I asked you if the Word ever STOPPED being God, since you insist upon the faulty, nonsensical, Trinitarian translation of John 1:1, which has the Word both BEING God and also being WITH God.   Your first response was: Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,20:52) Hi MB, Scripture says the Word was God. Now the Word is the Son of God, Jesus Christ. That would lead me to believe that you think the Word DID stop being God, and became His Son instead. But then, a couple of posts later, you said: Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,22:02) Hi MB, How could God stop being God? So I'm confused Nick.  Which one of your two, conflicting statements do you really believe?

Hi MB,
God does not stop being Himself and His Spirit is Him and of Him wherever He pours that Spirit.

He has chosen to pour a portion of His Spirit which became the servant Spirit, the Word, into a man named Jesus begetting a man as His Son.

But you would not call the Son of God his own Father would you?

That Spirit of Christ calls His God ABBA FATHER

[toby]

Hi Mikeboll,

You said:

Quote

Quote (toby @ April 02 2012,23:45) Yes, Jesus was Created. Thank you.  No further questions.

You may just want people here to say 'yes and no' to you as you can then craft what designer ideology you like by this but this is not a courthouse that you should make a dismissive statement such as 'No further questions' – in fact that is just plain rude!

You could have just said 'Thanks, that was the thread question and you gave what i believe is your honest reply'.

I see in another thread where you virtually told me that I could not post because you could not oppose what I was saying to you and that has since been your downfall. Is that what you are afraid of here, too? I think that if you were to lend yourself to writing Scriptural truth then you would not need to be afraid of me.

Well, 'Mr CourtMan', I have questions for you!

Mikeboll, when was Jesus 'Created' and in what manner was he 'Created'. I do not say he was not created (I just said he was) but this is your thread so I am asking you as you have not said.

Was he created as an Angel?
Was he everlastingly with God as his Son after he was created?
Was he at his Father's right hand when he was created?
How was Jesus 'Created' if he was the 'Son of God' (In every way like his Father) – surely that would be that Jesus was procreated?
If Jesus was 'Created' and is exactly like the Father that created him, then What of the Angels? Were they not also 'Created' by their Father – after all, they are 'SONS OF GOD'!

I will be Pursuing answers to these and many more questions so please answer them as soon as possible and as fully and frankly as possible as I know you are a man who is a stickler for 'Precision' and 'Exactment' and a man who pursues others over many many pages demanding answers to the minutest degree (Touché, Mikeboll, touché)

[Ed J]

Hi Toby, those are excellent questions!

Looking forward to Mike's answers,
as they will certainly enlighten us
as to “Mike's beliefs” anyways.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

kerwin, edj,

no need for explanation.

i just want you to give me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the Word is the HS>

i double dare you..

you may start searching LOL

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ April 05 2012,01:40)

kerwin, edj, no need for explanation. i just want you to give me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the Word is the HS> i double dare you.. you may start searching LOL

Hi Jammin, as per your request…

“the Spirit, which is the word of God:” (Eph 6:17)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[toby]

Hi All,

Sorry I didn't respond earlier to the 'Good post, Toby' and ''Good point, Toby' before.

– Thanks EdJ and Nick and Kerwin and all others.

[kerwin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,11:21)

Hi KW, But not eternal life. That is in the Son. When he shares his Spirit with us he shares eternal life with us

Nick,

I am not sure what post you are addressing. I do know there is eternal life in God's Word. That life comes through Jesus Christ, even as you say.

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