Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

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  • #812106
    kerwin
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    @t8,

    Have you had a chance to read this?

    t8,

    I am sorry about trashing my words as everything I think does not always make it into writing.

    My point being that if you believe Jesus is a human being then you believe he has a human soul and that human soul came into human flesh. You also believe he is the promised Christ.

    If you do not believe that Jesus’ human soul came in human flesh then you believe a teaching that is opposed to Christ.

    2 Corinthians 5:3American Standard Version (ASV)

    3 if so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

    Paul is speaking of the human soul without the body.

    Just as a person comes into a room clothed so to does a person come into the world clothed in flesh when they are born. It is at this time that God said “let all the angels of God worship him.”

    #812109
    terraricca
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    Nick

    did not that great prophet also said that Jesus existed before he was born ? yes he did but you do not believe it right ?no

    #812127
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    Indeed the prophetic spirit in John recognised the Word in Jesus Christ.

    No surprises there.

    #812144
    terraricca
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    Nick

    you are lost ;the two John’s don’t talk about prophacies but about the man Jesus the Christ sent from above and their story is written years after the fact

    #812147
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever.

    Do you understand this?

     

    #812159
    terraricca
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    Nick

    JUDE 1:25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.

    it does not agree with you ;why ?

    #812161
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Yes it does.

    What is your misread?

    #812165
    terraricca
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    Nick

    it says God is and for us man through Jesus

    #812169
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    Not so.

    Any other ideas?

    #812172
    terraricca
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    well Nick show me that it talks about Jesus and not God in that scripture

    and remember that at the end Jesus Christ submit himself to his God so that all is of God

    so in this way you got it wrong

    #812174
    Ed J
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    Pierre,

    How do you read Micah 5:2?

    #812183
    terraricca
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    ED

    Mic 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
    though you are small among the clans of Judah,
    out of you will come for me
    one who will be ruler over Israel,
    whose origins are from of old,
    from ancient times.’”

    Mic 5:3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned
    until the time when she who is in labor gives birth
    and the rest of his brothers return
    to join the Israelites.

    Mic 5:4 He will stand and shepherd his flock
    in the strength of the LORD,
    in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God.
    And they will live securely, for then his greatness
    will reach to the ends of the earth.
    Mic 5:5 And he will be their peace.

    this is a prophecy of Jesus right ? yes

    #812196
    NickHassan
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    Hi ED,

    No.

    Jesus Christ.

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

    #812197
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T

    JUDE 1:25

    to the only God our Savior,

    through Jesus Christ our Lord,

    be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.

     

    #812203
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi Nick

    right ; thanks so it God that his our savior ? YES

    but he has saved us through his son Jesus the Christ right ? YES so the rest of that verse is addressed to the first called meaning GOD;be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever.

    #812204
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Yes.

    #812211
    terraricca
    Participant

    nICK

    THANKS I am happy you understood it right

    the truth cannot be a untruth for God cannot lie ,and we should also never lie

    #812399
    Ed J
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    Micah 5:2 “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah,
    though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
    yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me
    that is to be ruler in Israel;
    whose goings forth have been from of old,
    from everlasting.”

    ED

    this is a prophecy of Jesus right ? yes

    Hi Pierre,

    It’s a prophecy of “the spirit of Christ” coming from everlasting to Bethlehem

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #812401
    terraricca
    Participant

    Ed

    show me that this is according to the scriptures and not one of your opinions ok

    #812465
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    It is a Prophecy about Jesus Christ, a man from Bethlehem anointed with the Word.

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