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Nick,
I do not see where what we say differs.
As a hypothesis I think you are emphasizing the word gentle in opposition to my word reject.
Hi KW,
God does not call and give gifts intending to reject anyone.
Rom 11.29
For the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable
We have to be led by the Spirit to serve God.
Nick,
I was thinking of Luke 9:26 when I wrote those words but consider these words:
Hebrews 10:28-30Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
How do they relate to the words of Romans 11:29?
Hi KW,
2 Tim 2
Fot if we died with him we will also live with him
If we endure,we will also reign with him;
If we deny him he will also deny us;
If we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself.
Nick,
I am not seeing the tie in.
Fot if we died with him we will also live with him is speaking of walking according the Spirit.
If we endure,we will also reign with him is speaking of the world to come.
If we deny him he will also deny us; this sounds like the tie in to Luke 9:26 and also to Hebrews 10:28-30 but I do not see how it resolves their seeming disagreement with Rom 11.29.
If we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself is self evident for he knows he is the Christ.
I am assume the pronouns are all Jesus, as that is what it is in English grammar.
Hi KW,
There is only one foundation that can be laid and that is Jesus Christ.
But no building can remain standing if we are to be rebuilt.
We must be transformed by renewal of our minds.
He must increase and I must decrease.
Jesus Christ came in the flesh. When he was born, he was in the flesh for sure.
Some here don’t believe Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
Hi t8,
It seems we are being ridiculed for believing what Jesus Christ said about himself.
Shame on you.
So Jesus Christ didn’t come in the flesh? He wasn’t born the Christ and Lord?
Why do you want people to believe that?
What spirit makes a man want to convince others that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh. That he was not born the messiah?
Nick, is Jesus (without the title Christ) the Lord or not? I am not clear on your position regarding Lord.
I already know you deny him as the Christ till baptism, but then you are really saying that the Christ is the Christ and not Jesus the man. And I think you deny him as saviour till he actually saved. Is that right?
Hi t8,
Prophetically he has always been Lord and Saviour.
Before his conception and birth.
What does ‘Jesus Christ has come in the flesh ‘ mean to you?
t8,
John 11:27Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
You can be a Lord without being the Christ but you cannot be the Christ without being the Lord. The two titles are linked and the Writings state “the Lord Jesus Anointed”. (Acts 15:11 and other places)
t8,
According to what I see you do not believe Jesus believe Jesus came in the flesh because he has a human soul that came in his human flesh and so has always been a human; just as Scripture testifies.
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