Was jesus always superior

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You work it out who He is.

Well, according to you Wakeup, “he” is God Almighty Himself.

According to you, God Almighty Himself said, “I came out from God”, right? Because you believe the Word who said those words actually IS God Almighty Himself, right?

You're only one step away from being a Trinitarian, Wakeup. You already believe God's Son is actually God Himself, right? Now you just need to add in a “Holy Spirit God” – and you'll be one of them.

Mike B.

Why do you always say that God came out of God?
I never said that: I said the **Word of God** came out of God. THE *WORD* OF GOD;NOT GOD,BUT THE WORD OF GOD.

And God was NOT KILLED BY MEN,BUT THE MAN JESUS,
WHICH WAS THE WORD IN THE BEGINNING.
GOD GAVE HIS SON;NOT HIMSELF.

The trinies believe that Jesus is also God;that God died
on the cross. This is not what I believe. The trinies are very shallow in their knowledge of Jesus and God his Father.
Using many colourful words try to proof it.
And poor knowledge of the scriptures, and most of all the prophesies.

REMEMBER THIS: THE WORD OF GOD IS NOT GOD
AND WILL NEVER BE GOD,BUT ALWAYS BE **THE WORD** OF GOD. THE **LIVING WORD** OF GOD.
God spoke during the creation of the earth through His living breathing Word.;in the garden,He spoke to Abraham,to Moses,to the prophets,to the apostles,and to us through the book.

He spoke through the scriptures. The Holy bible is the Word.
The spirit in the words we need to eat,for that is His flesh.
God is a spirit,and His Word is spirit.

This would be even harder to comprehend.
No man has ever heard God's own voice,the voice directly
out of God's mouth with none in between. God always spoke through his living Word it self. Even the voice from heaven saying: This is my beloved Son: was not God's voice. Dont expect to understand this without the Holy spirit.

wakeup.

November 22, 2013 at 4:53 pm#362470

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REMEMBER THIS: THE WORD OF GOD IS NOT GOD AND WILL NEVER BE GOD……..

So then you agree that those who translate John 1:1c as “and the Word was God” are in error?

Or will you continue to preach that the Word USED TO BE God Almighty Himself, but then he became “NOT GOD”?

Will you say the Word “WILL NEVER BE GOD” out of one side of your mouth, but then explain to us how the Word IS God since there is only one throne in heaven?

It is clear to us that you are confused, Wakeup. Stop trying to be “right” to save face, and start actually THINKING about what your claims really mean.

November 22, 2013 at 9:20 pm#362488

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You work it out who He is.

Well, according to you Wakeup, “he” is God Almighty Himself.

According to you, God Almighty Himself said, “I came out from God”, right? Because you believe the Word who said those words actually IS God Almighty Himself, right?

Mike B.

Why do you always say that God came out of God?
I never said that: I said the **Word of God** came out of God. THE *WORD* OF GOD;NOT GOD,BUT THE WORD OF GOD.

And God was NOT KILLED BY MEN,BUT THE MAN JESUS,
WHICH WAS THE WORD IN THE BEGINNING.
GOD GAVE HIS SON;NOT HIMSELF.

He spoke through the scriptures. The Holy bible is the Word.
The spirit in the words we need to eat,for that is His flesh.
God is a spirit,and His Word is spirit.

wakeup.

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convenient answer to the confused and ignorant ,not so with me ,friend you may try to come up with this type of mystery story,but scriptures like most of the time prove you wrong ,

Ps 1:1 Blessed is the man
who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked
or stand in the way of sinners
or sit in the seat of mockers.
Ps 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
and on his law he meditates day and night.
Ps 1:3 He is like a tree planted by streams of water,
which yields its fruit in season
and whose leaf does not wither.
Whatever he does prospers.

Ps 1:4 Not so the wicked!
They are like chaff
that the wind blows away.

November 23, 2013 at 3:19 am#362494

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REMEMBER THIS: THE WORD OF GOD IS NOT GOD AND WILL NEVER BE GOD……..

So then you agree that those who translate John 1:1c as “and the Word was God” are in error?

Or will you continue to preach that the Word USED TO BE God Almighty Himself, but then he became “NOT GOD”?

Will you say the Word “WILL NEVER BE GOD” out of one side of your mouth, but then explain to us how the Word IS God since there is only one throne in heaven?

It is clear to us that you are confused, Wakeup. Stop trying to be “right” to save face, and start actually THINKING about what your claims really mean.

Mike B.

It must be hard for many to see deep into the substance.
1.Why did John say and the Word *was* God?
2.Why did he not say ,and the Word *is* God?
Please answer if you can,or anybody?

Crazy people think everybody else is mad, but he himself is
sain. Only the true sain can see the truth,but the not sain
see that as crazy.

wakeup.

November 25, 2013 at 11:47 pm#362666

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1.Why did John say and the Word *was* God?

He didn't. He was telling us about a god who was with THE god in the beginning – before he was made flesh. “In the beginning, the Word was with God, and the Word was a god”.

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Crazy people think everybody else is mad, but he himself is sain.

That seems like you, Wakeup. You seem to be the one who is against the rest of us – thinking all of us are mad.

Wakeup, can you say these words:

Mike, I believe the Word used to be God Almighty Himself, but then became a different being who was next to God Almighty, and then became God Almighty again.

Because this is exactly what you preach. So I'd like to hear you boldly proclaim those words to all.

November 26, 2013 at 4:15 am#362676

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1.Why did John say and the Word *was* God?

He didn't. He was telling us about a god who was with THE god in the beginning – before he was made flesh. “In the beginning, the Word was with God, and the Word was a god”.

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 22 2013,20:19)

Crazy people think everybody else is mad, but he himself is sain.

That seems like you, Wakeup. You seem to be the one who is against the rest of us – thinking all of us are mad.

Wakeup, can you say these words:

Mike, I believe the Word used to be God Almighty Himself, but then became a different being who was next to God Almighty, and then became God Almighty again.

Because this is exactly what you preach. So I'd like to hear you boldly proclaim those words to all.

Mike B.

No;for that is not the truth.
The truth is that the Word is God's Word.
It is his Word that became flesh; not God.

wakeup.

November 27, 2013 at 12:44 am#362730

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But you believe that this thing that became flesh USED TO BE God Almighty Himself, right?

And you believe that this thing that became flesh IS ONCE AGAIN God Almighty Himself, right? Because there is only “one throne” in heaven, right?

November 27, 2013 at 12:03 pm#362746

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Mike B.

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But you believe that this thing that became flesh USED TO BE God Almighty Himself, right?
And you believe that this thing that became flesh IS ONCE AGAIN God Almighty Himself, right? Because there is only “one throne” in heaven, right?

No; I did not say that.
I said the Word became flesh,not God became flesh.

To create; one needs to be alive.(living).
One needs to have wisdom,and power.
All things are made for **HIMself**, for God's pleasure.
The Word of God is a living being.
God's Word is not just sound vibrations,like our words.

wakeup.

November 28, 2013 at 7:55 pm#362787

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The Word of God is a living being.

And did this living being, who is NOT God, USED TO BE God? YES or NO?

November 29, 2013 at 12:16 am#362793

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The Word of God is a living being.

And did this living being, who is NOT God, USED TO BE God? YES or NO?

Mikeb.

From *everlasting* was God only.
He has *His Word*, and wisdom, and love, and truth,and power,and good ,and evil,and justice, and his plan in Him.
**THERE WAS NONE ELSE,AND NOTHING**:

That whole parcel is God;there was no one beside him.
Untill He brought forth his living Word from inside him.
IN THE *BEGINNING* WAS THE WORD,AND THE WORD WAS *WITH* GOD.

There is no/yes answer to this.

ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM(WORD).
HE WAS MADE FLESH,TO REDEEM MANKIND.
HIS NAME IS CALLED JESUS.
THERE WAS NO OTHER GOD INVOLVED.

wakeup.

November 30, 2013 at 6:01 pm#362878

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Answer the question, Wakeup:

Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

November 30, 2013 at 9:21 pm#362904

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Answer the question, Wakeup:

Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

Mike B.

You ask the same question over and over.

Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.
When He was inside God: YES. That was *before* the beginning.

The beginning of the Word being used to start creating.
There was *only God*,for he did not speak his Word,(there was silence). God's Word was not in action untill the beginning of creation.

wakeup.

December 1, 2013 at 5:48 pm#362945

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Answer the question, Wakeup:

Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

Mike B.

You ask the same question over and over.

Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.
When He was inside God: YES. That was *before* the beginning.

The beginning of the Word being used to start creating.
There was *only God*,for he did not speak his Word,(there was silence). God's Word was not in action untill the beginning of creation.

wakeup.

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Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.

what is this mean ;;;out of God ;;;

1) bring forth

2) born

3) created

December 1, 2013 at 10:04 pm#362961

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Answer the question, Wakeup:

Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

Mike B.

You ask the same question over and over.

Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.
When He was inside God: YES. That was *before* the beginning.

The beginning of the Word being used to start creating.
There was *only God*,for he did not speak his Word,(there was silence). God's Word was not in action untill the beginning of creation.

wakeup.

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Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.

what is this mean ;;;out of God ;;;

1) bring forth

2) born

3) created

Come on Terra.

1. Bring forth/ from inside God; out to sit next to him.
I was set up from everlasting,from the beginning or ever
the earth was.Before the mountains were settled,before
the hills, WAS I BROUGHT FORTH:
2. Born/ came out of the womans/female womb.
3. Creasted/ brought into existence;from nothing
to something. Or from dust to flesh.

wakeup.

December 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm#363090

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Answer the question, Wakeup:

Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

Mike B.

You ask the same question over and over.

Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.
When He was inside God: YES. That was *before* the beginning.

The beginning of the Word being used to start creating.
There was *only God*,for he did not speak his Word,(there was silence). God's Word was not in action untill the beginning of creation.

wakeup.

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Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.

what is this mean ;;;out of God ;;;

1) bring forth

2) born

3) created

Come on Terra.

wakeup.

and when did “the word ” separated from God

and when was he created

and when did “the word ” became a being ,and so no longer only words

December 4, 2013 at 1:23 am#363111

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Answer the question, Wakeup:

Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

Mike B.

You ask the same question over and over.

Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.
When He was inside God: YES. That was *before* the beginning.

The beginning of the Word being used to start creating.
There was *only God*,for he did not speak his Word,(there was silence). God's Word was not in action untill the beginning of creation.

wakeup.

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Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.

what is this mean ;;;out of God ;;;

1) bring forth

2) born

3) created

Come on Terra.

wakeup.

and when did “the word ” separated from God

and when was he created

and when did “the word ” became a being ,and so no longer only words

You are not reading: just can not wait to criticise me.

God never seperated with his Word.
He just gave his Word a form.
This is not impossible.
God could also make the stones to glorify him.

wakeup.

December 4, 2013 at 2:36 am#363127

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Answer the question, Wakeup:

Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

Mike B.

You ask the same question over and over.

Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.
When He was inside God: YES. That was *before* the beginning.

The beginning of the Word being used to start creating.
There was *only God*,for he did not speak his Word,(there was silence). God's Word was not in action untill the beginning of creation.

wakeup.

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Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.

what is this mean ;;;out of God ;;;

1) bring forth

2) born

3) created

Come on Terra.

wakeup.

and when did “the word ” separated from God

and when was he created

and when did “the word ” became a being ,and so no longer only words

You are not reading: just can not wait to criticise me.

God never seperated with his Word.
He just gave his Word a form.
This is not impossible.
God could also make the stones to glorify him.

wakeup.

AND WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT OR SUPPORT THIS VIEW

December 4, 2013 at 8:02 am#363166

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Answer the question, Wakeup:

Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

Mike B.

You ask the same question over and over.

Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.
When He was inside God: YES. That was *before* the beginning.

The beginning of the Word being used to start creating.
There was *only God*,for he did not speak his Word,(there was silence). God's Word was not in action untill the beginning of creation.

wakeup.

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Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.

what is this mean ;;;out of God ;;;

1) bring forth

2) born

3) created

Come on Terra.

wakeup.

and when did “the word ” separated from God

and when was he created

and when did “the word ” became a being ,and so no longer only words

You are not reading: just can not wait to criticise me.

God never seperated with his Word.
He just gave his Word a form.
This is not impossible.
God could also make the stones to glorify him.

wakeup.

AND WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT OR SUPPORT THIS VIEW

You are asking for scriptures,
as if they mean anything to you.

Proverbs 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

Learn to decern the sciptures.

wakeup.

December 6, 2013 at 12:01 am#363243

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Answer the question, Wakeup:

Did this living being, who is NO LONGER God, USED TO BE God Himself? YES or NO?

Since He is out of God: NO. He is the Word of God.

When He was inside God: YES. That was *before* the beginning.

So your answer to my YES or NO question is “YES”……… AND…….. “NO”?

Either the Word used to be God Almighty Himself, or he didn't. Which ONE is it?

December 6, 2013 at 10:36 am#363273