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[mikeboll64]

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Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2014,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,08:24) IF JESUS IS THE FIRST CREATED CREATURE, WHO/WHAT IS HIS NAME? The WORD. Of God The Word of God is not a name.

Revelation 19:13 KJV
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,10:06)

T. Running away and making funny noises,is not the way to go.

Said the pot to the kettle………..

[Wakeup]

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 23 2014,22:31) Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2014,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,08:24) IF JESUS IS THE FIRST CREATED CREATURE, WHO/WHAT IS HIS NAME? The WORD. Of God The Word of God is not a name. Revelation 19:13 KJV And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Mikeb.

But that is not a name.
He is *called* the word of God.

What is your word's name? (no name).
He does not have a name,but it's called mike's word.

The first so called creature was made by the Word of God.
So He can not be the word of God.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,20:23)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,12:41) Quote (Wakeup @ June 23 2014,22:31) Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2014,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,08:24) IF JESUS IS THE FIRST CREATED CREATURE, WHO/WHAT IS HIS NAME? The WORD. Of God The Word of God is not a name. Revelation 19:13 KJV And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Mikeb. But that is not a name.

Yet the scripture right in front of your eyes says “NAME”, doesn't it?  

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The first so called creature was made by the Word of God.

So you say.  But what is that first creature's NAME, Wakeup?  And why would knowing that NAME be important to our salvation? Is it?

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,14:06)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,20:23) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,12:41) Quote (Wakeup @ June 23 2014,22:31) Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2014,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,08:24) IF JESUS IS THE FIRST CREATED CREATURE, WHO/WHAT IS HIS NAME? The WORD. Of God The Word of God is not a name. Revelation 19:13 KJV And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Mikeb. But that is not a name. Yet the scripture right in front of your eyes says “NAME”, doesn't it?   Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,20:23) The first so called creature was made by the Word of God. So you say.  But what is that first creature's NAME, Wakeup?  And why would knowing that NAME be important to our salvation?  Is it?

Mikeb.

You need to decern how that sentence is structured.
it says; his name *IS CALLED* The Word of God.
He is called the Word of God because he is.

Revelation 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns;
***and he had a name written, that **no man knew***, ***but he himself***.

NO MAN KNEW;BUT HE HIMSELF.

You are now saying that the first creature created,is the Word of God.

The Word of God was not created;and so is God not created.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,09:30)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,14:06) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,20:23) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,12:41) Quote (Wakeup @ June 23 2014,22:31) Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2014,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,08:24) IF JESUS IS THE FIRST CREATED CREATURE, WHO/WHAT IS HIS NAME? The WORD. Of God The Word of God is not a name. Revelation 19:13 KJV And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Mikeb. But that is not a name. Yet the scripture right in front of your eyes says “NAME”, doesn't it?   Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,20:23) The first so called creature was made by the Word of God. So you say.  But what is that first creature's NAME, Wakeup?  And why would knowing that NAME be important to our salvation?  Is it? Mikeb. You need to decern how that sentence is structured. it says; his name *IS CALLED* The Word of God. He is called the Word of God because he is. Revelation 19:12   His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; ***and he had a name written, that **no man knew***, ***but he himself***. NO MAN KNEW;BUT HE HIMSELF. You are now saying that the first creature created,is the Word of God. The Word of God was not created;and so is God not created. wakeup.

w

and yet a name published in the scriptures for 2000 years ,but known to those that are in him ,

this leaves you on the outside is it yes

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,00:38)

Edj. 2. You claim to be born again.    Are you a saint now?   (a) How can you receive the medal (born again), before you     have reached the finish line? 3.  The Word was made flesh at birth.     (a)The child was worshipped by the three wise man since     birth. Matthew 2:11   And when they were come into the house, ***they saw the young child with Mary his mother***, ***and fell down, and **worshipped him***: ***and when they had opened their treasures***, ***they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense,     and myrrh***. 4) You are all confused. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

2)  What do you mean by “saint”?
2a)  The medal is the resurrection from the dead, the HolySpirit in us assures that.  (see Rom.8:11)

3) “The Word” is made flesh at OUR BIRTH, that is our Born Again spiritual birth.
3a) The Child was worshiped because he was born King of the Jews.  (ref. Matt.2:2)

4) No, are you?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ June 26 2014,01:04)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,09:30) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,14:06) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,20:23) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,12:41) Quote (Wakeup @ June 23 2014,22:31) Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2014,15:25) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,08:24) IF JESUS IS THE FIRST CREATED CREATURE, WHO/WHAT IS HIS NAME? The WORD. Of God The Word of God is not a name. Revelation 19:13 KJV And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Mikeb. But that is not a name. Yet the scripture right in front of your eyes says “NAME”, doesn't it?   Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2014,20:23) The first so called creature was made by the Word of God. So you say.  But what is that first creature's NAME, Wakeup?  And why would knowing that NAME be important to our salvation?  Is it? Mikeb. You need to decern how that sentence is structured. it says; his name *IS CALLED* The Word of God. He is called the Word of God because he is. Revelation 19:12   His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; ***and he had a name written, that **no man knew***, ***but he himself***. NO MAN KNEW;BUT HE HIMSELF. You are now saying that the first creature created,is the Word of God. The Word of God was not created;and so is God not created. wakeup. w     and yet a name published in the scriptures for 2000 years ,but known to those that are in him , this leaves you on the outside is it yes

T.

What happened to your spiritual eyes?
Is seems shut close?

Can you give us the name of your word?
No you can't; but it's *called* Pier's word.
Your word can not be called by another name.
Your word can not be called pietro,or francaice.

So it is with God's Word.
His name is the Word of God.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,12:36)

Quote (Ed J @ June 24, 2014, 4:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 23 2014,03:39) Let's start here: John 6 35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. Who said THOSE words? A.  The living, breathing MAN Jesus Christ? B.  The spirit of Christ? Hi Mike, 1) The problem with a predetermined “set of choices” is they are not effectual. Do you understand?     T8 asked me a question, limited to his understanding only, in which neither answer was effectual. 2) The problem with your current set of limited choices to pick from is:     answer “B” does not preclude answer “A” – once again ineffectual. I will keep in mind that you prefer my questions not be “YES or NO” questions, or have multiple answers already listed for you. Now, let's see how well it works doing it YOUR way. John 6 35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. Ed, who said the words above…….. according to the actual scripture itself?

Hi Mike,

OK, thanks for giving me the latitude to bring you to a more comprehensive understanding.
Lets instead focus on two different verses that convey the answer to your question.

1. (a)”I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever:
 (b)and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”  (John 6:51)

2. “(b)As for the earth, out of it cometh bread: and under it is turned up
  as it were fire. The stones of it are the place of sapphires: and it hath dust of gold.
  (c.)There is a path which no fowl knoweth, and which the vulture's eye hath not seen;”  (Job 28:5-7)

B) “the spirit of Christ” is the bread that cometh forth out of Heaven.  (ref. John 16:27)
A) “The living, breathing MAN Jesus Christ” is the bread that cometh forth out of the earth.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,14:06)

So you say.  But what is that first creature's NAME, Wakeup?

Hi Mike,

I have asked him that too, but he usually doesn't answer my questions     …maybe he will answer now that you have asked him?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2014,03:57)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,14:06) So you say.  But what is that first creature's NAME, Wakeup?   Hi Mike, I have asked him that too, but he usually doesn't answer my questions     …maybe he will answer now that you have asked him? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

Just as your word has no name;so also the Word
of God has no name.
A name only makes Him another person.
God is one God.

Your name is Ed;if your word also have a name;
that makes him another person.
Your word is called **the word of ED*.Ed's word.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2014,10:03)

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2014,03:57) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,14:06) So you say.  But what is that first creature's NAME, Wakeup?   Hi Mike, I have asked him that too, but he usually doesn't answer my questions     …maybe he will answer now that you have asked him? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Edj. Just as your word has no name;so also the Word of God has no name. A name only makes Him another person. God is one God. Your name is Ed;if your word also have a name; that makes him another person. Your word is called **the word of ED*.Ed's word. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Glad you are starting to realize that God's word is NOT another person.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2014,10:10)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2014,10:03) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2014,03:57) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,14:06) So you say.  But what is that first creature's NAME, Wakeup?   Hi Mike, I have asked him that too, but he usually doesn't answer my questions     …maybe he will answer now that you have asked him? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Edj. Just as your word has no name;so also the Word of God has no name. A name only makes Him another person. God is one God. Your name is Ed;if your word also have a name; that makes him another person. Your word is called **the word of ED*.Ed's word. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Glad you are starting to realize that God's word is NOT another person. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj.

Therefore His name is The Word Of God.
God's Word.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2014,10:03)

Edj. Your word is called **the word of ED*.Ed's word. wakeup.

Yep

[Ed J]

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Edj. Therefore His name is The Word Of God. God's Word. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup, Yes.

JEHOVAH is “The Word” of God.
I think you got it now

Ed J

[Wakeup]

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2014,10:14) Edj. Therefore His name is The Word Of God. God's Word. wakeup. Hi Wakeup,  Yes. JEHOVAH is “The Word” of God. I think you got it now   Ed J

Edj.

Not correct.

The Word of God is jehovah's Word.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2014,10:44)

B) “the spirit of Christ” is the bread that cometh forth out of Heaven. (ref. John 16:27)

Okay, so your answer to my question is “B”, from the list in my post, right?

Now I'm ready to be EdJucated.

1. Is “the spirit of Christ” the spirit of Jesus – in the same way that “the spirit of Ed” is your spirit?

If not, explain………..

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2014,10:57)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,14:06) So you say.  But what is that first creature's NAME, Wakeup?   Hi Mike, I have asked him that too, but he usually doesn't answer my questions     …maybe he will answer now that you have asked him?

No such luck.    He won't tell me the name, nor why knowing the ancient heavenly name of God's firstborn son is important to our salvation.

Nor has he given me any reason to think he was named something other than “Jesus” before he emptied himself and was made in the likeness of a human being.

Wakeup preaches HIS doctrine and understanding of scriptures.  That is all fine and good.  But when someone else posts SCRIPTURE that refutes his understanding, he ignores those scriptures and just keeps on preaching that same old understanding that has been scripturally refuted.

It's like he thinks: If I repeat the same thing enough times, they will come to believe my understanding INSTEAD OF the scriptures they are posting.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,17:03)

Edj. Just as your word has no name;so also the Word of God has no name.

So then the one named “the Word of God” in Rev 19:13 ISN'T Jesus?   If not Jesus, who is Rev 19:11-16 about?

And when “the Word of God” became flesh (John 1:14), by what NAME was he called while he dwelled among us on earth?

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2014,11:02)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,17:03) Edj. Just as your word has no name;so also the Word of God has no name. So then the one named “the Word of God” in Rev 19:13 ISN'T Jesus?   If not Jesus, who is Rev 19:11-16 about? And when “the Word of God” became flesh (John 1:14), by what NAME was he called while he dwelled among us on earth?

Mikeb.

You deliberately confuse the two.
Before he was made flesh, and after He was made flesh.

1.Before creation His name was not Jesus;
but the Word of God.

2.After creation,His name was not Jesus.
But the Word of God.

3. After He was made flesh,His name is Jesus.

4. He will come again *called* the Word of God.
which no man knew.rev 19:12.

Meaning that no man knew him before.
They knew His name only; but not who He really is.
No man knows the Son and the Father luke 10:22.

Luke 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son,
***and he to whom the Son will reveal him***.

It depends on Jesus whom He will reveal,his true identity.
Can not be revealed by any wisdom of man.

He is also *CALLED* King of Kings and Lord Lords.rev19:16.

wakeup.

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