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Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2014,04:54) Quote (Wakeup @ June 10 2014,18:49) Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2014,17:27) Quote (Wakeup @ June 10 2014,10:35) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2014,10:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,15:41) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2014,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2014,06:10) THE LAMB IS IN THE MIDS OF THE THRONE OF GOD. BECAUSE HE IS GOD, HIS WORD.
And now we're back to the Lamb/Word OF God actually BEING God again, huh?Flip-flop, flip-flop………..
If the Lamb/Word IS God, how can he be subjected TO God? Can “GOD” be subjected to “GOD”?
MikeB.Your word(speech) is sublect to you or not?
wakeup.
No, no, no, Wakeup.You just said that the Word of God IS GOD, right? Aren't those YOUR words that I bolded in the quote box above?
So again: How can “God” be subject to “God”?
Wakeup, I'm done with this. You have proven to be willfully ignorant of the many things I've showed you.
SCRIPTURE says that Jesus will rule from the throne of David FOREVER.
YOU say Jesus will “disappear back inside of the God he actually IS“.
I have no more time for people who willingly REJECT the very scriptures that I post for them.
Luke 1:32 King James Version
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:Isaiah 9:7 King James Version
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.Believe……….. or twist. The choice is yours.
*Why dont you answer my simple question*, instead of
showing off your wisdom, explaining the Word of God?Is your word subject to you. Y/N?
I add some more questions for you to answer.
1.Is there some power in our
words? Y/N?2.Terra said words are just words.
question: Did not the speech of God created all things?3. If words are just words: how come our spoken words can
make things happen?4.We can send our words overseas;and make things happen
overseas. How can you explain this?5.Is that not because there is power in our words?
6.I am sending my words to you at this moment; and
It can make you respond to what is said by my
words. How is that possible?7. After I have spoken my words; I am silent; its back inside
me;untill I bring it out again.I decide when.8. I can send my words through the net, or letter;or phone;
or through a messenger.
Do you now understand what I am saying?
I know that my words spoken, will cause you to respond,
because of the spirit in it,and I am waiting for that.wakeup.
Wup
God created all things , through his first born or first creation , Words are powerful providing you can back them up, otherwise they are nothing, but words are sounds a being can make , but God, s first creation is THE WORD, not his words two very different things , THE WORD is the name of the son of God in heaven , and God speaks with him , and talk to him , and shares with him like father to son do,
You still can not see, that Jesus was the Word, and is the Word.1.Is your word subject to you, or not.Y/N?
2.No matter what you say;positive or negative:does it have
an effect on people you speak to Y/N?Stay with the subject.
wakeup.
wupif i have a gun on your head it would be very convincing that my words i say have a real meaning ;right
yes but if i am just a street bag man ,and i offer you to share my business or what ever you will first look at me and based your believe on what you see and hear from me ;right
so the value of my words are as powerful as my own power ,can you not understand this simple thing ,
the WORD AND THE WORDS OF GOD IS NOT THE SAME THING ,JUST LIKE WATER AND MR WATER IS NOT THE SAME THING ,
AND NO, YOU ARE NOT TOTALLY IN CHARGE OF YOUR OWN WORDS FOR IT ALSO DEPEND OF YOUR CHARACTER AND YOUR EMOTION , ONLY GOD IS TOTALLY IN POWER FOR WHAT HE SAYS FOR HE IS THE TRUTH AND HE IS HOLY
T.You are on a different subject now.
You are speaking of word by force/violence.DOES YOUR WORD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE PERSON(S) YOU SPEAK TO,Y/N?
GOOD WORDS OR BAD WORDS,DOES IT HAVE AN IMPACT?wakeup.
WUP
YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND ME AND I DO NOT FEEL TO ANSWER YOUR USELESS QUESTIONS ;YOU HAVE SO MANY THAT YOU NEVER ANSWER TO ME ,
Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2014,12:58) WUP YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND ME AND I DO NOT FEEL TO ANSWER YOUR USELESS QUESTIONS ;YOU HAVE SO MANY THAT YOU NEVER ANSWER TO ME ,
I have known you as one that never answers questions.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 11 2014,09:08) Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2014,12:58) WUP YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND ME AND I DO NOT FEEL TO ANSWER YOUR USELESS QUESTIONS ;YOU HAVE SO MANY THAT YOU NEVER ANSWER TO ME ,
I have known you as one that never answers questions.wakeup.
wupyou have not know me now or ever ,
you are hiding in your own cloud not scriptures ,
truth is part of honesty ,
Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,22:35) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2014,10:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,15:41) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2014,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2014,06:10) THE LAMB IS IN THE MIDS OF THE THRONE OF GOD. BECAUSE HE IS GOD, HIS WORD.
And now we're back to the Lamb/Word OF God actually BEING God again, huh?Flip-flop, flip-flop………..
If the Lamb/Word IS God, how can he be subjected TO God? Can “GOD” be subjected to “GOD”?
MikeB.Your word(speech) is sublect to you or not?
wakeup.
No, no, no, Wakeup.You just said that the Word of God IS GOD, right? Aren't those YOUR words that I bolded in the quote box above?
So again: How can “God” be subject to “God”?
Wakeup, I'm done with this. You have proven to be willfully ignorant of the many things I've showed you.
SCRIPTURE says that Jesus will rule from the throne of David FOREVER.
YOU say Jesus will “disappear back inside of the God he actually IS“.
I have no more time for people who willingly REJECT the very scriptures that I post for them.
Luke 1:32 King James Version
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:Isaiah 9:7 King James Version
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.Believe……….. or twist. The choice is yours.
*Why dont you answer my simple question*, instead of
showing off your wisdom, explaining the Word of God?Is your word subject to you. Y/N?
Do you suppose my answer to your question will eliminate those scriptures I just posted? Will it change the meaning of them?Address the SCRIPTURES I posted. Explain to me how Jesus WILL rule from the throne of David forever – according to the SCRIPTURES………. but he will NOT do that according to YOU.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2014,11:16) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,22:35) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2014,10:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,15:41) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2014,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2014,06:10) THE LAMB IS IN THE MIDS OF THE THRONE OF GOD. BECAUSE HE IS GOD, HIS WORD.
And now we're back to the Lamb/Word OF God actually BEING God again, huh?Flip-flop, flip-flop………..
If the Lamb/Word IS God, how can he be subjected TO God? Can “GOD” be subjected to “GOD”?
MikeB.Your word(speech) is sublect to you or not?
wakeup.
No, no, no, Wakeup.You just said that the Word of God IS GOD, right? Aren't those YOUR words that I bolded in the quote box above?
So again: How can “God” be subject to “God”?
Wakeup, I'm done with this. You have proven to be willfully ignorant of the many things I've showed you.
SCRIPTURE says that Jesus will rule from the throne of David FOREVER.
YOU say Jesus will “disappear back inside of the God he actually IS“.
I have no more time for people who willingly REJECT the very scriptures that I post for them.
Luke 1:32 King James Version
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:Isaiah 9:7 King James Version
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.Believe……….. or twist. The choice is yours.
*Why dont you answer my simple question*, instead of
showing off your wisdom, explaining the Word of God?Is your word subject to you. Y/N?
Do you suppose my answer to your question will eliminate those scriptures I just posted? Will it change the meaning of them?Address the SCRIPTURES I posted. Explain to me how Jesus WILL rule from the throne of David forever – according to the SCRIPTURES………. but he will NOT do that according to YOU.
I want you to answer my simple question to Terra first.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2014,07:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2014,11:16) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,22:35) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2014,10:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,15:41) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2014,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2014,06:10) THE LAMB IS IN THE MIDS OF THE THRONE OF GOD. BECAUSE HE IS GOD, HIS WORD.
And now we're back to the Lamb/Word OF God actually BEING God again, huh?Flip-flop, flip-flop………..
If the Lamb/Word IS God, how can he be subjected TO God? Can “GOD” be subjected to “GOD”?
MikeB.Your word(speech) is sublect to you or not?
wakeup.
No, no, no, Wakeup.You just said that the Word of God IS GOD, right? Aren't those YOUR words that I bolded in the quote box above?
So again: How can “God” be subject to “God”?
Wakeup, I'm done with this. You have proven to be willfully ignorant of the many things I've showed you.
SCRIPTURE says that Jesus will rule from the throne of David FOREVER.
YOU say Jesus will “disappear back inside of the God he actually IS“.
I have no more time for people who willingly REJECT the very scriptures that I post for them.
Luke 1:32 King James Version
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:Isaiah 9:7 King James Version
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.Believe……….. or twist. The choice is yours.
*Why dont you answer my simple question*, instead of
showing off your wisdom, explaining the Word of God?Is your word subject to you. Y/N?
Do you suppose my answer to your question will eliminate those scriptures I just posted? Will it change the meaning of them?Address the SCRIPTURES I posted. Explain to me how Jesus WILL rule from the throne of David forever – according to the SCRIPTURES………. but he will NOT do that according to YOU.
I want you to answer my simple question to Terra first.wakeup.
wupI have answered you all ready ;but here it is again ;
1)what you say is yours it is of your mouth ,
2)but the words you using may not be under your control ,because of your temper ,or your emotion ,a situation
3) so if you cannot be found 100% in control of your own words then the answer is NO,to your question ,got it
Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2014,12:30) Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2014,07:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2014,11:16) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,22:35) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2014,10:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,15:41) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2014,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2014,06:10) THE LAMB IS IN THE MIDS OF THE THRONE OF GOD. BECAUSE HE IS GOD, HIS WORD.
And now we're back to the Lamb/Word OF God actually BEING God again, huh?Flip-flop, flip-flop………..
If the Lamb/Word IS God, how can he be subjected TO God? Can “GOD” be subjected to “GOD”?
MikeB.Your word(speech) is sublect to you or not?
wakeup.
No, no, no, Wakeup.You just said that the Word of God IS GOD, right? Aren't those YOUR words that I bolded in the quote box above?
So again: How can “God” be subject to “God”?
Wakeup, I'm done with this. You have proven to be willfully ignorant of the many things I've showed you.
SCRIPTURE says that Jesus will rule from the throne of David FOREVER.
YOU say Jesus will “disappear back inside of the God he actually IS“.
I have no more time for people who willingly REJECT the very scriptures that I post for them.
Luke 1:32 King James Version
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:Isaiah 9:7 King James Version
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.Believe……….. or twist. The choice is yours.
*Why dont you answer my simple question*, instead of
showing off your wisdom, explaining the Word of God?Is your word subject to you. Y/N?
Do you suppose my answer to your question will eliminate those scriptures I just posted? Will it change the meaning of them?Address the SCRIPTURES I posted. Explain to me how Jesus WILL rule from the throne of David forever – according to the SCRIPTURES………. but he will NOT do that according to YOU.
I want you to answer my simple question to Terra first.wakeup.
wupI have answered you all ready ;but here it is again ;
1)what you say is yours it is of your mouth ,
2)but the words you using may not be under your control ,because of your temper ,or your emotion ,a situation
3) so if you cannot be found 100% in control of your own words then the answer is NO,to your question ,got it
Read.
This was my question,and you have not given me the answer *to the question*.DOES YOUR WORD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE PERSON(S) YOU SPEAK TO,Y/N?
GOOD WORDS OR BAD WORDS,DOES IT HAVE AN IMPACT?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2014,07:49) Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2014,12:30) Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2014,07:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2014,11:16) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,22:35) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2014,10:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,15:41) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2014,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2014,06:10) THE LAMB IS IN THE MIDS OF THE THRONE OF GOD. BECAUSE HE IS GOD, HIS WORD.
And now we're back to the Lamb/Word OF God actually BEING God again, huh?Flip-flop, flip-flop………..
If the Lamb/Word IS God, how can he be subjected TO God? Can “GOD” be subjected to “GOD”?
MikeB.Your word(speech) is sublect to you or not?
wakeup.
No, no, no, Wakeup.You just said that the Word of God IS GOD, right? Aren't those YOUR words that I bolded in the quote box above?
So again: How can “God” be subject to “God”?
Wakeup, I'm done with this. You have proven to be willfully ignorant of the many things I've showed you.
SCRIPTURE says that Jesus will rule from the throne of David FOREVER.
YOU say Jesus will “disappear back inside of the God he actually IS“.
I have no more time for people who willingly REJECT the very scriptures that I post for them.
Luke 1:32 King James Version
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:Isaiah 9:7 King James Version
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.Believe……….. or twist. The choice is yours.
*Why dont you answer my simple question*, instead of
showing off your wisdom, explaining the Word of God?Is your word subject to you. Y/N?
Do you suppose my answer to your question will eliminate those scriptures I just posted? Will it change the meaning of them?Address the SCRIPTURES I posted. Explain to me how Jesus WILL rule from the throne of David forever – according to the SCRIPTURES………. but he will NOT do that according to YOU.
I want you to answer my simple question to Terra first.wakeup.
wupI have answered you all ready ;but here it is again ;
1)what you say is yours it is of your mouth ,
2)but the words you using may not be under your control ,because of your temper ,or your emotion ,a situation
3) so if you cannot be found 100% in control of your own words then the answer is NO,to your question ,got it
Read.
This was my question,and you have not given me the answer *to the question*.DOES YOUR WORD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE PERSON(S) YOU SPEAK TO,Y/N?
GOOD WORDS OR BAD WORDS,DOES IT HAVE AN IMPACT?wakeup.
wupI have answered you to that question the answer is NO,
unless you are in a position of trust ;and then it will depend on your reputation ;
for all those reasons i say NO to your question
IF YOU WANT PROVE TO WHAT I SAY JUST SEE HOW PEOPLE REACT TO MY COMMENTS AND QUOTES
Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2014,12:54) Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2014,07:49) Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2014,12:30) Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2014,07:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2014,11:16) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,22:35) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2014,10:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,15:41) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2014,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2014,06:10) THE LAMB IS IN THE MIDS OF THE THRONE OF GOD. BECAUSE HE IS GOD, HIS WORD.
And now we're back to the Lamb/Word OF God actually BEING God again, huh?Flip-flop, flip-flop………..
If the Lamb/Word IS God, how can he be subjected TO God? Can “GOD” be subjected to “GOD”?
MikeB.Your word(speech) is sublect to you or not?
wakeup.
No, no, no, Wakeup.You just said that the Word of God IS GOD, right? Aren't those YOUR words that I bolded in the quote box above?
So again: How can “God” be subject to “God”?
Wakeup, I'm done with this. You have proven to be willfully ignorant of the many things I've showed you.
SCRIPTURE says that Jesus will rule from the throne of David FOREVER.
YOU say Jesus will “disappear back inside of the God he actually IS“.
I have no more time for people who willingly REJECT the very scriptures that I post for them.
Luke 1:32 King James Version
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:Isaiah 9:7 King James Version
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.Believe……….. or twist. The choice is yours.
*Why dont you answer my simple question*, instead of
showing off your wisdom, explaining the Word of God?Is your word subject to you. Y/N?
Do you suppose my answer to your question will eliminate those scriptures I just posted? Will it change the meaning of them?Address the SCRIPTURES I posted. Explain to me how Jesus WILL rule from the throne of David forever – according to the SCRIPTURES………. but he will NOT do that according to YOU.
I want you to answer my simple question to Terra first.wakeup.
wupI have answered you all ready ;but here it is again ;
1)what you say is yours it is of your mouth ,
2)but the words you using may not be under your control ,because of your temper ,or your emotion ,a situation
3) so if you cannot be found 100% in control of your own words then the answer is NO,to your question ,got it
Read.
This was my question,and you have not given me the answer *to the question*.DOES YOUR WORD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE PERSON(S) YOU SPEAK TO,Y/N?
GOOD WORDS OR BAD WORDS,DOES IT HAVE AN IMPACT?wakeup.
wupI have answered you to that question the answer is NO,
unless you are in a position of trust ;and then it will depend on your reputation ;
for all those reasons i say NO to your question
IF YOU WANT PROVE TO WHAT I SAY JUST SEE HOW PEOPLE REACT TO MY COMMENTS AND QUOTES
Quote I have answered you to that question the answer is NO, unless you are in a position of trust ;and then it will depend on your reputation ;
for all those reasons i say NO to your question
IF YOU WANT PROVE TO WHAT I SAY JUST SEE HOW PEOPLE REACT TO MY COMMENTS AND QUOTES
Your answer is contradicting.
First you say NO. MEANING NO IMPACT.
THEN YOU SAY THIS.IF YOU WANT PROVE TO WHAT I SAY JUST SEE HOW PEOPLE ****REACT TO MY COMMENTS AND****
If people react to your words;that means your words does have an impact on people.
So what is your true answer?
wakeup.
wakeup.
Wup
You did not see clear the people does not react to my words , and you are in your self my witness , Don, t you understand
The answer is NO,
Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2014,18:18) Wup You did not see clear the people does not react to my words , and you are in your self my witness , Don, t you understand
The answer is NO,
Some do react, and some dont.But it has some effect.
Every word spoken has some kind of effect
There is a spirit in every word spoken.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2014,17:40) Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2014,18:18) Wup You did not see clear the people does not react to my words , and you are in your self my witness , Don, t you understand
The answer is NO,
Some do react, and some dont.But it has some effect.
Every word spoken has some kind of effect
There is a spirit in every word spoken.wakeup.
wupif it is not 100% it is so nothing because it is not depending on your words but on the hearer mood'
so the answer still NO to your question
Wakeup,
YES, the words I speak have an impact on others.
NO, the words I speak are not “subject to me” – as if I am their ruler.
Now can you address the SCRIPTURES I posted…….. and tell me why YOU are saying something completely OPPOSITE of what they say?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 14 2014,12:00) Wakeup, YES, the words I speak have an impact on others.
NO, the words I speak are not “subject to me” – as if I am their ruler.
Now can you address the SCRIPTURES I posted…….. and tell me why YOU are saying something completely OPPOSITE of what they say?
Mike b.This was yout question.
Quote Address the SCRIPTURES I posted. Explain to me how Jesus WILL rule from the throne of David forever – according to the SCRIPTURES………. but he will NOT do that according to YOU. .
Not according to me;but scriptures.
1 Corinthians 15:28
***And when all things shall be subdued unto him***, ***then shall the Son also **himself***
***be subject unto him***
***that put all things under him***,
***that **God** may be all in all***.HIM=GOD.
Jesus also will rule for one thousand years only.
Not more. A time space of one thousand year limit.
All teachings will be done *verbally*.
To his children, in His kingdom.Then after it is done; God will take over.
Meaning: That God will speak to His children, mind to mind.
Not verbally. And we will see Him with our eyes.
For we will be spirit creatures.Angels in heaven dont speak to each other like we do.
They communicate with the mind.wakeup.
Wakeup,
Matthew 19:28
Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.Luke 22:30
so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.These twelve will also be rulers……. agreed? Yet even as rulers, they themselves are subject to THEIR OWN ruler, Jesus Christ………… who is in turn subject to HIS OWN Ruler, Jehovah God Almighty.
Just because a ruler is subject to a HIGHER ruler doesn't mean that lower ruler just up and disappears.
You quoted a scripture that says Jesus himself will be subjected to God. Okay. But being subjected to God doesn't mean his rule has ended. Nor COULD IT mean such a thing, since I've shown you at least two different scriptures that say Jesus will rule FOREVER from the throne of David.
Here is another:
Daniel 7 KJV
13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
The teaching in the passage you quoted is that God will place the enemies of Jesus at his feet, so Jesus can destroy them. During that “destroying” process, God has placed Jesus in sole control……….. he is running EVERYTHING while God sits back and let's His firstborn Son take the reigns.
After Jesus has destroyed those things, he will again hand the reigns of the kingdom back over to his God, who will once again take control over His own kingdom.
Now, Jesus will never literally NOT BE subject to his God at any time – even when God sits back and let's Jesus run things for a while. So his “being subjected” to God is a matter of him giving the “control console” back to God, and him going back to his active role as PRINCE – to God's “KING”.
He's not going anywhere, Wakeup. Just like those twelve who will rule UNDER him aren't going anywhere. The fact that they are “sub-rulers” doesn't mean they disappear. It only means there is a ruler(s) who is HIGHER than them.
Take the story of Joseph and the Pharaoh. Pharaoh placed his entire empire under the control of Joseph. But there was never a time when Pharaoh wasn't still OVER Joseph – even though Pharaoh let Joseph run the whole empire.
So Joseph was “acting king” for a while. But let's say Pharaoh came back from vacation (or whatever), and wanted to take the reigns back from Joseph. At that time, Joseph would become “subject to” Pharaoh again. And all that would mean is that the one who was ACTING as king for a while would take his rightful place as PRINCE – since the REAL king returned.
I hope you can see this. And even if you cannot, just let your own theory count as nothing compared to the SCRIPURES I've quoted for you that clearly say the Son of Man will rule FOREVER.
Let God's word be truth – even if it means your word was wrong.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 14 2014,13:11) Wakeup, Matthew 19:28
Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.Luke 22:30
so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.These twelve will also be rulers……. agreed? Yet even as rulers, they themselves are subject to THEIR OWN ruler, Jesus Christ………… who is in turn subject to HIS OWN Ruler, Jehovah God Almighty.
Just because a ruler is subject to a HIGHER ruler doesn't mean that lower ruler just up and disappears.
You quoted a scripture that says Jesus himself will be subjected to God. Okay. But being subjected to God doesn't mean his rule has ended. Nor COULD IT mean such a thing, since I've shown you at least two different scriptures that say Jesus will rule FOREVER from the throne of David.
Here is another:
Daniel 7 KJV
13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
The teaching in the passage you quoted is that God will place the enemies of Jesus at his feet, so Jesus can destroy them. During that “destroying” process, God has placed Jesus in sole control……….. he is running EVERYTHING while God sits back and let's His firstborn Son take the reigns.
After Jesus has destroyed those things, he will again hand the reigns of the kingdom back over to his God, who will once again take control over His own kingdom.
Now, Jesus will never literally NOT BE subject to his God at any time – even when God sits back and let's Jesus run things for a while. So his “being subjected” to God is a matter of him giving the “control console” back to God, and him going back to his active role as PRINCE – to God's “KING”.
He's not going anywhere, Wakeup. Just like those twelve who will rule UNDER him aren't going anywhere. The fact that they are “sub-rulers” doesn't mean they disappear. It only means there is a ruler(s) who is HIGHER than them.
Take the story of Joseph and the Pharaoh. Pharaoh placed his entire empire under the control of Joseph. But there was never a time when Pharaoh wasn't still OVER Joseph – even though Pharaoh let Joseph run the whole empire.
So Joseph was “acting king” for a while. But let's say Pharaoh came back from vacation (or whatever), and wanted to take the reigns back from Joseph. At that time, Joseph would become “subject to” Pharaoh again. And all that would mean is that the one who was ACTING as king for a while would take his rightful place as PRINCE – since the REAL king returned.
I hope you can see this. And even if you cannot, just let your own theory count as nothing compared to the SCRIPURES I've quoted for you that clearly say the Son of Man will rule FOREVER.
Let God's word be truth – even if it means your word was wrong.
The saints will rule over israel in the flesh, for one thousand years, They will not stay flesh after the thousand years.
They will be changed into spirit creatures,like the saints.
After the second judgement.1.Who then will they rule over? For all will be equal in the
kingdom of heaven.2.Jesus the king of kings will be subject to God.
This means that the Word of God(His vocal speech) to
us, which WAS made flesh;will be replaced by His by mind
to mind communicaton,for we are by now spirit creatures.3. The Word of God is not going anywhere.
It is just that God before spoke through his Word made
flesh. Gods Word spoken vocally.
After all is done, and finished;after the thousand years.
God wil not speak to us vocally anymore,but mind to
mind. For we are as the angels.4.There will be no more kings; but one king and God,and
Lord.His name is the almighty God.Think spiritual, not carnal.Compere the spiritual with spiritual.
You tend to slip back to the carnal every time.The saints can not rule for ever,because there will be no one to rule over anymore.
wakeup.
wup
Quote 1.Who then will they rule over? For all will be equal in the
kingdom of heaven.were is that written that ALL WILL BE EQUAL IN HEAVEN; IT NEVER WAS AND NEVER WILL BE ; READ THE SCRIPTURES MAN
Quote (terraricca @ June 15 2014,00:14) wup Quote 1.Who then will they rule over? For all will be equal in the
kingdom of heaven.were is that written that ALL WILL BE EQUAL IN HEAVEN; IT NEVER WAS AND NEVER WILL BE ; READ THE SCRIPTURES MAN
THE GREATER IS LEAST, AND THE LEAST IS GREATER.Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there
***hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist***: ***notwithstanding he that is least***
***in the kingdom of heaven***
***is greater than he**.Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist:
***but he that is least***
***in the kingdom of God is greater than he***.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 14 2014,20:51) Quote (terraricca @ June 15 2014,00:14) wup Quote 1.Who then will they rule over? For all will be equal in the
kingdom of heaven.were is that written that ALL WILL BE EQUAL IN HEAVEN; IT NEVER WAS AND NEVER WILL BE ; READ THE SCRIPTURES MAN
THE GREATER IS LEAST, AND THE LEAST IS GREATER.Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there
***hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist***: ***notwithstanding he that is least***
***in the kingdom of heaven***
***is greater than he**.Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist:
***but he that is least***
***in the kingdom of God is greater than he***.wakeup.
wupthose scriptures do not say what you said ,you are seeing things that are not written ,and do not see things that are written ,
no one is equal no place ,but the fact that we are all treated equally does not mean that we are equal ,
it only means that the same rule ,rule us all
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