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Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,14:27)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2014,21:04) Mike B. If you keep on rejecting scriprures that does not agree with you. No, that's you Wakeup. But, back to the subject at hand………  I would like a response to my last post about Isaiah 9:6. I would like to hear your thoughts on the use of the word “father” in Isaiah 22:21.

MikeB

God our Father uses his Word to teach us.
God is our father,his Word is our Father,because He brought us up from a babe to adult hood.
The difference is that his Word is in subjection to God.
God controls His Word,He is in charge.
We worship God's Word, we also have God.
We have God; we also have His Word.

We can not have God and trample on His Word.
We can not have God and crucify His Word.
Where ever there is God;there also is His Word.

God is our everlasting Father.
His Word also will be there, as our everlasting Father.
Look deeper into this; and you will see.

This subject can not be resolved on the surface realm.
This is a deep subject. And dont say;there is no such as a deep subject.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

WUP

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This is a deep subject. And dont say;there is no such as a deep subject.

THE DEPT IS RELATED TO THE WORKS OF THE FLESH AND THE DEEDS OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2014,00:49)

WUP Quote This is a deep subject. And dont say;there is no such as a deep subject. THE DEPT IS RELATED TO THE WORKS OF THE FLESH AND THE DEEDS OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH

I was speaking of the depth of the subject.
Meaning the suject is a deep mystery.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,21:01)

Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2014,00:49) WUP Quote This is a deep subject. And dont say;there is no such as a deep subject. THE DEPT IS RELATED TO THE WORKS OF THE FLESH AND THE DEEDS OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH I was speaking of the depth of the subject. Meaning the suject is a deep mystery. wakeup.

wup

i know ,but my answer remain the same

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2014,21:52)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,14:27) Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2014,21:04) Mike B. If you keep on rejecting scriprures that does not agree with you. No, that's you Wakeup. But, back to the subject at hand………  I would like a response to my last post about Isaiah 9:6. I would like to hear your thoughts on the use of the word “father” in Isaiah 22:21. MikeB God our Father uses his Word to teach us. God is our father,his Word is our Father,because He brought us up from a babe to adult hood. The difference is that his Word is in subjection to God. God controls His Word,He is in charge. We  worship God's Word, we also have God. We have God; we also have His Word. We can not have God and trample on His Word. We can not have God and crucify His Word. Where ever there is God;there also is His Word. God is our everlasting Father. His Word also will be there, as our everlasting Father. Look deeper into this; and you will see. This subject can not be resolved on the surface realm. This is a deep subject. And dont say;there is no such as a deep subject. wakeup.

Wakeup,

Could you be so kind as to point to the words in your last post that tell me your thoughts on the use of the word “father” in Isaiah 22:21? Because I can't seem to find any words that actually address the ONLY thing I'm asking you about.

[Wakeup]

Isaiah 22:1 The burden of the *valley of vision*. What aileth thee now, that thou art wholly gone up to the housetops?

Isaiah 22:2 Thou that art full of stirs, a tumultuous city, a joyous city: thy slain men are not slain with the sword, nor dead in battle.

THE VALEY OF VISION. THE JOYOUS CITY IS ZION.THE CITY OF PEACE.

Isaiah 22:21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.

THE FUTURE JESUS (TO THEM).WILL BE CLOTHED WITH HER
ROBE; AND STRENGTHEN WITH HER GIRDLE.
HER TEACHINGS WIIL BE IN HIS HAND. AND HE (JESUS) SHALL BE A FATHER TO THE INHABITANTS OF JERUSALEM.
JERUSALEM IS THE CITY OF PEACE.
THE KINGDOM COMING WILL ALSO BE CALLED THE CITY OF PEACE.

JESUS WILL BE A FATHER TO THE CITY OF PEACE.(AS KING).
HE WILL BRING THEM UP FROM BABES TO ADULT HOOD.

JESUS IS THE WORD -OF- GOD HIMSELF.
GOD IS OUR FATHER;JESUS ALSO IS OUR FATHER;AS HIS SPEECH.

TO MAKE IT SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND.

OUR DAD IS OUR FATHER,AND HOW HE BROUGHT US UP IS ALSO OUR FATHER,EXCEPT IT IS HIS WORD(TEACHINGS) THAT BROUGHT US UP.HIS DISCIPLINES.
DAD AND HIS TEACHINGS(DISCIPLINES) ARE ONE DAD.
THERE IS NONE BUT DAD.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2014,13:07) Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2014,07:06) Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2014,09:40) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2014,20:42) The difference between your believe and mine is. That I believe that God is capable to protect his Holy Word from being corrupted. You believe that God can not protect his Holy Word,from being corrupted. So you have to search out for your self,using your own wisdom. So you can pick cherries. Just pick what suits your doctrine. wakeup. WAKEUP Quote The difference between your believe and mine is. That I believe that God is capable to protect his Holy Word from being corrupted. i DO BELIEVE THAT AS WELL ,EXCEPT THAT YOU BELIEVE IT IS THE “KJV” WHILE I DO NOT AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT VERSION SPIRIT ,ONLY THE LANGUAGE ,YOU UNDERSTAND BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD AS PROTECTED , IF YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND TRUTH YOU WOULD KNOW THAT , Show me which bible God has refined seven times. wakeup. wup no,you show me that God as refined the kjv seven times , Always answer a question with a question. Which of all the bibles has been purified seven times?? Dont Know,but can comment?? wakeup.

W up

So it was a lie you said, I knew that, that, s why I ask

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2014,13:08)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2014,08:52) Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2014,13:07) Quote (Wakeup @ May 23 2014,07:06) Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2014,09:40) Quote (Wakeup @ May 22 2014,20:42) The difference between your believe and mine is. That I believe that God is capable to protect his Holy Word from being corrupted. You believe that God can not protect his Holy Word,from being corrupted. So you have to search out for your self,using your own wisdom. So you can pick cherries. Just pick what suits your doctrine. wakeup. WAKEUP Quote The difference between your believe and mine is. That I believe that God is capable to protect his Holy Word from being corrupted. i DO BELIEVE THAT AS WELL ,EXCEPT THAT YOU BELIEVE IT IS THE “KJV” WHILE I DO NOT AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT VERSION SPIRIT ,ONLY THE LANGUAGE ,YOU UNDERSTAND BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD AS PROTECTED , IF YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND TRUTH YOU WOULD KNOW THAT , Show me which bible God has refined seven times. wakeup. wup no,you show me that God as refined the kjv seven times , Always answer a question with a question. Which of all the bibles has been purified seven times?? Dont Know,but can comment?? wakeup. W up So it was a lie you said, I knew that, that, s why I ask

What are you on about Terra??? Really.
Strong drinks are not allowed here.

PROOF OF THE PUDDING.
Psalms 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

ARE YOU DENYING THIS? PLAYING *WILL NOT SEE*.
YOUR HEART WILL NOT SEE: ITS NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. ONLY SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

BUT GOD CAN SEE EVEN YOUR HEART. WETHER IT IS BLACK OR WHITE.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Dont want to see Terra,or have you closed shop?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2014,12:32)

Dont want to see Terra,or have you closed shop? wakeup.

WAKEUP

you where talking about the kjv or bibles

this is not what the scriptures says or means ;

in both cases you are wrong ;

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ May 27 2014,00:18)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2014,12:32) Dont want to see Terra,or have you closed shop? wakeup. WAKEUP you where talking about the kjv or bibles this is not what the scriptures says or means ; in both cases you are wrong ;

Sure; and you can not tell me what it means.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2014,19:19)

Quote (terraricca @ May 27 2014,00:18) Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2014,12:32) Dont want to see Terra,or have you closed shop? wakeup. WAKEUP you where talking about the kjv or bibles this is not what the scriptures says or means ; in both cases you are wrong ; Sure; and you can not tell me what it means. wakeup.

wup

Ps 12:1 Help, LORD, for the godly are no more;
the faithful have vanished from among men.
Ps 12:2 Everyone lies to his neighbor;
their flattering lips speak with deception.

Ps 12:3 May the LORD cut off all flattering lips
and every boastful tongue
Ps 12:4 that says, “We will triumph with our tongues;
we own our lips—who is our master?”

Ps 12:5 “Because of the oppression of the weak
and the groaning of the needy,
I will now arise,” says the LORD.
“I will protect them from those who malign them.”
Ps 12:6 And the words of the LORD are flawless,
like silver refined in a furnace of clay,
purified seven times.

Ps 12:7 O LORD, you will keep us safe
and protect us from such people forever.
Ps 12:8 The wicked freely strut about
when what is vile is honored among men.

you have to read and understand all what is written

[Wakeup]

Isaiah 59:21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee,

***and my words which I have put in thy mouth***,
***shall not depart out of thy mouth***,
***nor out of the mouth of thy seed***,
**nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed***,
***saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever***.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2014,23:31)

Isaiah 59:21   As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, ***and my words which I have put in thy mouth***,       ***shall not depart out of thy mouth***,       ***nor out of the mouth of thy seed***,     **nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed***,   ***saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever***. wakeup.

WUP

DO YOU STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WORDS WRITTEN WORDS HAVE BEEN SAID BY HIM TO BE FOR US A GUIDE LINE IN LIFE A WAY TO LIVE ,THAT CAN BE TRUSTED BECAUSE THEY ARE PURE WORDS NOT CORRUPTED ONES ,AND THAT THOSE WORDS CAN BE EASILY TRANSMITTED TO GENERATIONS TO COME AND STILL WOULD NOT LOSE THEIR POWER ,

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,19:29)

AND HE (JESUS) SHALL BE A FATHER TO THE INHABITANTS OF JERUSALEM.

“A father”? Or “THE Father”?

Which does the KJV say in Isaiah 22:21, Wakeup?

Also:

Isaiah 22
20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah:

21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.

This passage is about Eliakim, who later became King of Judah…….. not about Jesus.

So what does it mean that Eliakim will be “a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem”?

What does the word “father” mean in that context, Wakeup? “Benefactor”? “Protector”? “Instructor”?

What do YOU say the word “father” means in that verse?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,23:31)

PROOF OF THE PUDDING. Psalms 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

I don't see “King James Version”, or “Bible” in that verse, Wakeup.

So I don't see how it fits the question you asked Pierre, which was, Which BIBLE has been purified seven times?

Of course, I assume you will show me events from history that “prove” the KJV was “purified seven times”, right?

But I suppose anyone could do that with any English translation – if they wanted to.

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2014,23:53)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,23:31) PROOF OF THE PUDDING. Psalms 12:6   The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. I don't see “King James Version”, or “Bible” in that verse, Wakeup. So I don't see how it fits the question you asked Pierre, which was, Which BIBLE has been purified seven times? Of course, I assume you will show me events from history that “prove” the KJV was “purified seven times”, right? But I suppose anyone could do that with any English translation – if they wanted to.

Mike

yeah ,wakeup is full of crap like that and think that he out run all of us just because we are tired to answer him to his crap.

and he pretend that he is a true teacher ,I wander of what subject ;the evil???

[mikeboll64]

I remember reading where Wakeup once posted some historical events surrounding the KJV translation – and considered those events to be proof that the KJV is the only Bible that was purified seven times.

I don't remember all the details, but I'm sure that story is what he's been chomping at the bit to tell you.

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2014,00:10)

I remember reading where Wakeup once posted some historical events surrounding the KJV translation – and considered those events to be proof that the KJV is the only Bible that was purified seven times. I don't remember all the details, but I'm sure that story is what he's been chomping at the bit to tell you.

Mike

their is a movie about the kjv, I think it is called ;THE BOOK THAT CHANGED THE WORLD ” not bad but not of God ,

the french also had their own revolution with the Huguenots,some where around that time ,(protestant against Catholics domination )

and we cannot forget the Germans who started all with Martin Luther,

[terraricca]

Mike

I have read some where that father also stands for” LIFE GIVER”

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