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1Tim.4:10 …(for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers.
Do you believe it?
Eph.2:8-10 …8 For in grace, through faith, are you saved, and this is not out of you; it is God's approach present,
9 not of works, lest anyone should be boasting.
10 For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.Still trying to “earn” your way to salvation?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,15:40) Hi EDE,
You have seemingly hinted at such a view and tell us you belive all men preexist.
Is this from numbers or a godly source?
Hi Nick,Preexistence is clearly written in the Bible.
(Jeremiah 1:5 / John 15:27 / Psalm 40:7 Rev.13:8)
Preexistence is not an important Doctrine worth debating!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,15:40) Hi EDE,
You have seemingly hinted at such a view and tell us you belive all men preexist.
Is this from numbers or a godly source?
Hi Nick,You still haven't told me what Universalism is to you?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,09:48) Hi ED,
You have not read the thread?
Hi Nick,No; to many Pages.
Tell my what Universalism is to you; and if you believe it? (1Peter 3:15)1Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts:
and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you
a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (shimmer @ July 28 2010,09:54) Hi EdJ Do you believe in Universalism ?
Hi Shimmer,What is Universalism?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (shimmer @ July 28 2010,10:45) EdJ, Universalism is the idea that all people will eventually be saved,
Hi Shimmer,Are we all saved at the same time? (John 17:12)
Who does The Bible say stays in the lake of fire? (Rev. 20:10)
People only stay in lake of fire temporarily! (Mathew 5:26 / Zechariah 3:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
No the fires of earthly suffering [1 peter 5.10, 1 cor3]are not the fires of gehenna[mt25].
Goats are not toasted but roasted.We too can be involved in snatching men from the fire that is the natural destiny of the unsaved[jn3.36, jude1.23]
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,12:26) Hi ED,
If you have espoused this falsehood how many others are you promoting?
Hi Nick,What falsehood are you referring to?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,14:14) Hi ED,
You view of the fires of mt 10.28 and mt 25 for starters.
Hi Nick,Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast
into the lake of fire. This is the second death.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi,
Those who do not obey the commands of Jesus find this an attractive option.But like all false ways it ends in death.
Far better to die with Jesus in baptism now[rom6] and avoid the second death
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,21:38) Hi ED,
Why do you engage in battles against other falsehoods when YOU promote what is not of God?
Nhere you got a point
Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2010,15:03) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 20 2010,08:44) Terraricca………..First You say were are saying all will be saved “NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO” That is a false statement of what we have said. Where have we indicated that no matter what a person is doing they will be saved? We are saying the will be changed by the effectual working of GOD and Cleansed from their sins they will be transformed into new beings by the spirit of GOD. But you on the other hand believe GOD is to Weak to do this and unable to effect his will on his creation. You “profess God but deny His Power”. Terraricca…………..Here is something to think about………Jesus said ,” I took my place in the midst of the world, and I appeared to them in flesh. I found all of them intoxicated : I found (none) of them thirsty: And my soul became affected for the sons of men, because they are blind in their hearts and do not have sight: for empty they came into the world, and empty too they seek to leave the world. But for the moment they are intoxicated. When they shake off their wine, then they will repent.
These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down. Men are indeed intoxicated (Spiritually) and until this intoxicated state is removes they will remain that way , but a time will come when GOD will cause them to all to become Sober and deliver them from their stupor they are in. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
geneand like always your comments are full of scriptures quotes.
Pierre
Terrica…………I quoted that from the Gospel of Thomas, it does exist, Go on line and Check it out. There are others also that exist Or do you think the only writings we have are Just in the New testament which was canonized by your brothers the Trinitarians and PREEXISTENCES of the Catholic and Protestant Church.Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2010,04:37) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,15:40) Hi EDE,
You have seemingly hinted at such a view and tell us you belive all men preexist.
Is this from numbers or a godly source?
Hi Nick,Preexistence is clearly written in the Bible.
(Jeremiah 1:5 / John 15:27 / Psalm 40:7 Rev.13:8)
Preexistence is not an important Doctrine worth debating!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,
God knew Jeremiah as God knows the future.
Jesus is shown in prophecy in Ps 40.
The disciples were with Jesus from the beginning of his ministry.
Those whose name were not written in the book of life of the lamb who was slain from the foundation of theworld will worship Satan.Your verses quoted here have not shown anything about pre existence of men but show ignorance of prophecy.
Do you have any verses that do agree with your theory??
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