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  • #116316
    GeneBalthrop
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    Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 08 2008,09:52)
    NH.
      Can't find scripture to support your view?  Your “one eternal gospel for all” is the useless philosophy.  It seems when you're trapped by not being able to prove your point of view with scripture, you dodge the question by making an irrelevant accusation!  Nice try, answer the question please!


    Chosenone …..> truer word were never written brother. Thats why scripture says you shouldn't allow a novice to teach.

    love and peace to you and yours………………..gene

    #116320
    NickHassan
    Participant

    GB,
    You follow several gospels?

    #116326
    chosenone
    Participant

    Gene.
    Notice the 'answer'? Just as I said in your quote above. Yet this one has some unbiblical, heretical, “One eternal gospel for all”, that false teachers teach, but can't find a scripture that says so! Yet he accuses others of not following scripture, as if he does?

    Blessings.

    #116409
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Chosenone……..yes some want to be a teacher, but when ask to prove by scriptures can't and in fact wont even reply when ask, their afraid their ignorance will be exposed so they simply ignore the posts. But he has no problem of casting sarcastic remakes and lying and condescending on others that disagree with Him and who produce scriptures to prove their points. Rather then getting proved wrong and maybe learn something and grow a little he would rather change subject matter or start His sarcastic remarks. This has become a hindrance to this site. But some are growing and learning more also, I have read some very good posts Here and encouraging also.

    love and peace to you and yours…………………………….gene

    #116412
    NickHassan
    Participant

    GB,
    Jesus never taught what you do here.
    he is our teacher.

    #116431
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 03 2009,07:17)
    Chosenone……..yes some want to be a teacher, but when ask to prove by scriptures can't and in fact wont even reply when ask, their afraid their ignorance will be exposed so they simply ignore the posts. But he has no problem of casting sarcastic remakes and lying and condescending on others that disagree with Him and who produce scriptures to prove their points. Rather then getting proved wrong and maybe learn something and grow a little he would rather change subject matter or start His sarcastic remarks. This has become a hindrance to this site. But some are growing and learning more also, I have read some very good posts Here and encouraging also.

    love and peace to you and yours…………………………….gene


    Thanks Gene, you are right on regarding Nick. As a matter of fact, this last comment of his is a good example of an answer that means nothing, won't quote a scripture, just accuses you of something you have taught, but will not specify as to what it is. An accusation, but no substance as to what you supposedly said. Very typical of him.

    Blessings.

    #116434
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 03 2009,07:17)
    Chosenone……..yes some want to be a teacher, but when ask to prove by scriptures can't and in fact wont even reply when ask, their afraid their ignorance will be exposed so they simply ignore the posts. But he has no problem of casting sarcastic remakes and lying and condescending on others that disagree with Him and who produce scriptures to prove their points. Rather then getting proved wrong and maybe learn something and grow a little he would rather change subject matter or start His sarcastic remarks. This has become a hindrance to this site. But some are growing and learning more also, I have read some very good posts Here and encouraging also.

    love and peace to you and yours…………………………….gene


    Gb,
    Those who grow in spiritual knowledge from outside of scripture usually are called gnostics. Is this your approach?

    #116441
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 03 2009,12:15)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 03 2009,07:17)
    Chosenone……..yes some want to be a teacher, but when ask to prove by scriptures can't and in fact wont even reply when ask, their afraid their ignorance will be exposed so they simply ignore the posts. But he has no problem of casting sarcastic remakes and lying and condescending on others that disagree with Him and who produce scriptures to prove their points. Rather then getting proved wrong and maybe learn something and grow a little he would rather change subject matter or start His sarcastic remarks. This has become a hindrance to this site. But some are growing and learning more also, I have read some very good posts Here and encouraging also.

    love and peace to you and yours…………………………….gene


    Gb,
    Those who grow in spiritual knowledge from outside of scripture usually are called gnostics. Is this your approach?


    Hi Gene.
    I guess we'll have to call Nick an a “gnostic:, he fills the requirements.

    Blessings.

    #116486
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Chosenone………yes he fits his own accusations of others :D :D , that all he seems to be able to do is throw out false accusations and then imply things people are not even saying (or better known as a false accuser), that why it say suffer a Novice Not to teach. But in a lot of ways i feel sorrow for him, He has a tough Job, but He could be a little kinder with us all, even the ones who disagree with Him as we and others do at times. This personal attacks on and accusations need to stop, if He has scripture that counters what we are saying then produce it, but get off this personal condescending on people. This is supposed to be a bible study site, no one is saying He has all knowledge about every thing, while we may have an opinion about something written and a conviction about it, it's still only how we see it, no reason to falsely accuse or label some one as he continue does , Now were “GNOSTIC'S” When he couldn't even give you the beliefs of the Gnosticism. One slander after another with this guy, God help Him.

    love and peace to you and yours………………..gene

    #116491
    NickHassan
    Participant

    GB,
    Your energies would be better spent continuing to attempt to revive the dead horse of universalism.
    Or is frustration at the hopeless task forcing you to choose to attack the messengers?
    Too many reminding you that the king is wearing no clothes?

    #116513
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 04 2009,05:20)
    GB,
    Your energies would be better spent continuing to attempt to revive the dead horse of universalism.
    Or is frustration at the hopeless task forcing you to choose to attack the messengers?
    Too many reminding you that the king is wearing no clothes?


    Another useless statement that gives no example or scripture to prove any point you are trying to make. Just words, but no substance. Try giving some examples of your accusations, this may add a little, but hardly any, credibility to your wild accusations! If you can't give proof, just keeping quiet, it will at least exonerate you.

    Blessings.

    #117274
    chosenone
    Participant

    topical.

    #117450
    chosenone
    Participant

    Eph.2:10 … For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.

    #117460
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Indeed CO,
    We who are saved should find what our mission is.
    Convincing others of universalism philosophy is unlikely to be the one for us.

    #117551
    chosenone
    Participant

    NH.
    Eph.2:8 … For in grace, through faith, are you saved, and this is not out of you; it is God's approach present.

    Notice …and this is NOT OUT OF YOU!!! You say “we should find what our mission is”? Read your bible!!!

    #117582
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 13 2009,18:52)
    Indeed CO,
    We who are saved should find what our mission is.
    Convincing others of universalism philosophy is unlikely to be the one for us.


    Greeting Nick…….Sounds good!!….I would love to hear your argument either..Pro or Con….thanks

    #117583
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 14 2009,17:23)
    NH.
      Eph.2:8   … For in grace, through faith, are you saved, and this is not out of you; it is God's approach present.

    Notice   …and this is NOT OUT OF YOU!!!   You say “we should find what our mission is”?  Read your bible!!!


    Greetings Choosen one…….I have read my bible over and over and to my surprise… I always wind up surprised by the amount of new knowledge I acquire….Salvatiion is Gods gift to us once when we realize we don't deserve it …Life takes on new meaning…

    #117589
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi TJ,
    No amnesty.
    No armchair salvation.
    Listening to and obeying the Son of God is still the way

    #117606
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    This doctrine is utterly contrary to scriptural truth, and, as can be seen in posts here, completely opposed to the teaching and leadership of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

    However the teachers of the world, the super-apostles, will always find itching ears.

    #117626
    chosenone
    Participant

    There are some who try to teach scripure, but don't believe what it says, unless of course you believe in “the one eternal gospel for all”.

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