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CO,
Rom 1125 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness[4137] of the Gentiles be come in.
Number 4138
Transliteration:
pleroma {play'-ro-mah}
Word Origin:
from 4137
TDNT:
6:298,867
Part of Speech:
noun neuter
Usage in the KJV:
fulness 13, full 1, fulfilling 1, which is put in to fill up 1, pierce that filled up 1Total: 17
Definition:
that which is (has been) filled
a ship inasmuch as it is filled (i.e. manned) with sailors, rowers, and soldiers
in the NT, the body of believers, as that which is filled with the presence, power, agency, riches of God and of Christ
that which fills or with which a thing is filled
of those things which a ship is filled, freight and merchandise, sailors, oarsmen, soldiers
completeness or fullness of time
fulness, abundance
a fulfilling, keepingSo it does not mean that all gentiles will be saved.
Nick.
I don't know how you get your understanding, I can only think of you described in part by Ro.11:25 …”that blindness in part is happened to Israel,” add to that “Nick”as well.Blessings.
CO,
Your vain mission to convince all that they will be saved is beyond the teachings of Christ[2Jn]
But then you cannot partake of his teachings.Nick….Jesus did say (all) manor of Sin shall be forgiven man. and even said the pharisees would go into the kingdom of God last. So lets put it this way Jesus did not say any would not makes it eventually did he. Jesus said he came (NOT) to Condemn any, but you seem privileged to condemn some, Interesting. Are you elevating yourself above your master, By making condemning statements He never made.
peace to you ………………………….gene
GB,
You seem to forget many of the warnings of Jesus to men.
In him is salvation for those who follow him.
Goats await the lake of fireQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 02 2008,13:07) CO,
He never said all men will be saved.
But you do?
His (Jesus) message was to “the lost sheep of the house if Israel”. His message was to them only, who would have inherited the earthly kingdom, had they accepted their “Messiah”.
Paul “completed” the word of God, giving the message that “all will be saved” (1Tim.4:9-11).Of course, you, who believes that there is (one eternal gospel for all), can't understand that there are two gospels.
(1) The gospel of the kingdom. (to Israel only)
(2) the gospel of “the Grace of God”.This is why you missed the later part, you still believe in that “one gospel”. When are you going to believe what is written in scripture, it will benefit you greatly.
Give it a try!
Wrong again? You do err…Show scripture that proves what you say. Scripture describes two gospels, Jesus taught “the gospel of the kingdom”. Paul taught “the gospel of 'the Grace of God' “.
I'll bet you will dodge this request…”show scripture to prove your point”. I wont hold my breath.CO,
Would you like us to continue discussing your philosophy?
It may entertain those on Mars hill but it is useless to those trying to follow Jesus.NH.
Can't find scripture to support your view? Your “one eternal gospel for all” is the useless philosophy. It seems when you're trapped by not being able to prove your point of view with scripture, you dodge the question by making an irrelevant accusation! Nice try, answer the question please!Co,
We do not follow Paul.
Follow Jesus.
1Cor3
3For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?4For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 02 2008,20:00) Wrong again CO,
The gospel of God is not divided.
NH.
The question was: “Show scripture where it states that there is only one gospel.
You're still avoiding the answer.Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 08 2008,16:13) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 02 2008,20:00) Wrong again CO,
The gospel of God is not divided.
NH.
The question was: “Show scripture where it states that there is only one gospel.
You're still avoiding the answer.
Nick?Sorry, chosenone
There is only one gospel, the gospel of grace by faith.
It was first preached to the Jews only, until the seventy weeks were up, Dan. 9:24. Then God poured out his Holy Spirit on the gentiles also,Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Georg
Georg……..I don't think Chosenone was talking about the fact salvation went out to all, he was bring out the Jesus SAID, He was not sent but to the HOUSE of ISRAEL. which he did say. Scripture says He came to His own, but his own received him not. I think some how this got turned some how into what it is because of Nick lack of understanding what Choseone meant.
love and peace to you and Irene………………gene
Quote (Tiffany @ Jan. 01 2009,11:44) Sorry, chosenone There is only one gospel, the gospel of grace by faith.
It was first preached to the Jews only, until the seventy weeks were up, Dan. 9:24. Then God poured out his Holy Spirit on the gentiles also,Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Georg
Thanks georg,
New gospels still find favour though.
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