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Nick……….All being lead by GOD find it, they are HIS Sheep and they Know the voice of the master, because GOD has given the the ability to know it , not because they of there own “free” choices know it.
peace……….gene
GB,
Are all led by God?
Do all reborn follow that leading?
The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 23 2008,19:25) GB,
The Spirit of God in Jesus did not teach universalism.
But men do.
Why?
The Spirit of God in Jesus did teach universalism.
But men refuse to believe it.
Why?Tim
Tim…….Amen, Jesus was the greatest universalism teacher there ever was, even saying all mens sins shall be forgiven men. The self righteous hate that thought, they love the idea of excluding others. There piousness has puffed them up, they try to limit God saving POWER for all MANKIND.
love and peace to you and yours brother…………………..gene
GB and Tim,
Believe what you will from apparent inferences and implications
but Jesus did not teach universalism.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 24 2008,04:21) Tim…….Amen, Jesus was the greatest universalism teacher there ever was, even saying all mens sins shall be forgiven men. The self righteous hate that thought, they love the idea of excluding others. There piousness has puffed them up, they try to limit God saving POWER for all MANKIND. love and peace to you and yours brother…………………..gene
GB,
Mark 3:28
Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:What you imply, and which is not written, is that all sins shall be automatically forgiven all men.
The door stands open for that forgiveness should men seek it.
Walk, seek , ask
GB,
the forgiveness of God is through rebirth into Jesus.
Acts 2
37Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?”
38Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.GB,
Appealing to God for cleansing of conscience-forgiveness- is the way of Christ.
1Peter 3
21Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you–not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience–through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 24 2008,09:02) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 24 2008,04:21) Tim…….Amen, Jesus was the greatest universalism teacher there ever was, even saying all mens sins shall be forgiven men. The self righteous hate that thought, they love the idea of excluding others. There piousness has puffed them up, they try to limit God saving POWER for all MANKIND. love and peace to you and yours brother…………………..gene
GB,
Mark 3:28
Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:What you imply, and which is not written, is that all sins shall be automatically forgiven all men.
The door stands open for that forgiveness should men seek it.
Walk, seek , ask
Nick……..God's GRACE causes that to happen or haven't you read where it say (BY GRACE ARE YOU SAVED) AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES, LEST ANY SHOULD (BOAST). Or perhaps you missed where it says GOD has concluded (ALL) under (SIN) that HE might Have (MERCY ON ALL). And what i imply is Christ died for our sins and (NOT) ours ONLY but the SINS of the WHOLE WORLD.So you say He did not die for the sins of the Whole world and God does not forgive the sins of ALL, So are we to consider Jesus sacrifice not good enough to (REALLY) have all the worlds sins Forgiven. Only sinners like you and no one else is afforded that forgiveness. I think you really lack understanding what scripture really says Nick.
God's work is for universal salvation of ALL and will be accomplished By GOD Himself ultimately. Many, many scriptures have been give to support that, you just fail to believe scripture, you really should try harder to believe what is written NICK.
said in love Nick……………..gene
GB,
Jesus did not teach universalism but men have adapted the teachings of Paul to form this new gospel.
You should not align with those who preach new and false gospels.
His sacrifice is sufficient for all.Why do they all not want to be blessed in this way?
They must repent and seek the forgiveness of God.Nick…….no man (CAN) repent on his own, he must be guided to repentance BY the SPIRIT of GOD. Those people Peter was talking to in Acts were brought to repentance by the Holy Spirit that fell on them and it caused them to repent , they did not repent on their own. The Holy Spirit convicted them in there Hearts and then they said “men and brethren what shall we do seeing we have killed the son of GOD” they did not even consider that until the Spirit fell on them and that caused them to repent. It is a work of GOD Alone that save us, “for we are HIS workmanship (CREATED) unto good works”. Righteousness is a (CREATION) by GOD, you can't lose site of that Nick.
peace to you………………gene
Nick………true (at this time) but who are you to say they never will. If God has set Himself to save (ALL) then (ALL) will ultimately be saved, rather you like it or not brother. There (ARE) many scriptures that support this point of view and have been quoted here many times but you chose to ignore then. And hang on to (YOUR) doctrine of exclusiveism.
peace to you…………gene
GB,
It is not written that all men who ever live will be saved.
It is unwise to put words into God's mouth.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 25 2008,04:23) GB,
It is not written that all men who ever live will be saved.
It is unwise to put words into God's mouth.
Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind,
11 especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching.We are putting words in Gods' mouth?
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