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- November 15, 2008 at 8:09 pm#111883NickHassanParticipant
CO,
Indeed all in Christ shall be made alive.
The Spirit of Christ abides in them.
But all are not in Christ.November 15, 2008 at 8:11 pm#111885NickHassanParticipantCO,
Indeed every knee shall bow to the Authority of God in Christ.
But only a remnant shall remain.
ContextNovember 15, 2008 at 8:12 pm#111886chosenoneParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 16 2008,07:11) CO,
Indeed every knee shall bow to the Authority of God in Christ.
But only a remnant shall remain.
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Nick.
Give scripture please.November 15, 2008 at 8:15 pm#111889NickHassanParticipantCO,
1 Cor 15
Revelation.
Mt 22-25November 15, 2008 at 8:16 pm#111891chosenoneParticipantNick.
The scripture inculuding the verses.November 15, 2008 at 8:18 pm#111894NickHassanParticipantCO,
Do you reject all the words of Jesus or just some?November 15, 2008 at 8:21 pm#111896chosenoneParticipantNick.
Where's the scripture that you quote that we asked for? You avoid giving it because, perhaps, you don't have it?November 15, 2008 at 8:52 pm#111902NickHassanParticipantCO,
If you cannot tolerate the words of Christ what point is there in offering you other building blocks?
The stone of Jesus must first be laid.Your building must begin on the rock of his teachings. Dig deeper.
We do not follow paul or Cephas or Apollos.November 15, 2008 at 8:54 pm#111903NickHassanParticipantHi,
Universalists offer us at least 5 gospels, though perhaps others too.
They offer at least two kingdoms.And they try to build just on the words of Paul.
Paul would not be amused.November 15, 2008 at 9:26 pm#111904NickHassanParticipantHi,
We must follow Jesus and obey him.
Denying him in favour of imagined teachings of his disciples is not any form of Christianity.November 15, 2008 at 9:56 pm#111907NickHassanParticipantHi,
So this pernicious philosophy insults and denies our Lord Jesus by denigrating his words and elevating those of his servants over him. In so doing it also similarly treats the Father who sent him. By falsely teaching all men are saved it denies the possibility of salvation for those who receive it by denying the need for all men to repent and be forgiven by the God of love.November 16, 2008 at 1:22 am#111909chosenoneParticipantNick.
Strange, you never seem to quote scripture when ask for. Always avoid giving proof for your non-biblical answers.Posted: Nov. 16 2008,07:12
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CO,
Indeed every knee shall bow to the Authority of God in Christ.
But only a remnant shall remain.
ContextNick.
Give scripture please.Remember this request? Are you avoiding answers to your philosophy? Can't find scripture?
November 16, 2008 at 3:31 am#111913GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 16 2008,08:56) Hi,
So this pernicious philosophy insults and denies our Lord Jesus by denigrating his words and elevating those of his servants over him. In so doing it also similarly treats the Father who sent him. By falsely teaching all men are saved it denies the possibility of salvation for those who receive it by denying the need for all men to repent and be forgiven by the God of love.
Nick………..>You say this pernicious philosophy (Insults) and (Denies) our Lord Jesus by denigrating his word and elevating those his servants over him.Pleas take time and show us in what way we do that , mouthing off you opinions means nothing, produce your proof where we placed Jesus servants word over His. You made the accusations now you should back it up.
Who said all men (are) saved, you are mixing up (will) be, with (are) one is present tense while the other is future tense. Nick you really need to think more about what you are saying and whats being said to you.
Who has ever said we are denying that all must repent, the question isn't that we (ALL) need to repent , it is how we are caused to repent. You believe repents is caused by the self, we believe it is caused by the GRACE OF GOD. That's the difference here.
peace…………..gene
November 16, 2008 at 3:34 am#111915NickHassanParticipantGB,
Scripture does not say all men will be saved.
Is there a relevant difference?November 16, 2008 at 4:03 am#111920GeneBalthropParticipantNick……..Does scripture say some will not be saved then. Show us where God says He will throw anyone into a (literal) eternal every burning Fire and watch them scream out into all eternity in pain and anguish. Far more scriptures give support to Mercy and forgiveness unto all. ” For God concluded (ALL) under sin, that He might Have mercy on (ALL)”> But your teaching would deny that and make it the person himself that would be his ultimate salvation by his so-called free choice to repent coming from His own personal self. But Scripture says we are saved BY GRACE and That (NOT) of ourselves, it is a gift of GOD. God plainly said the CARNAL MIND is enmity to God , is not subject to the laws of God neither indeed can be. God must create a person right, a person will not of himself chose top repent he is not able to with out God's influencing on the Heart. You don't seem to savor the SOVEREIGNTY or POWER of God in getting into our minds and correct out thinking through the operation of His Spirit. (we are CREATED RIGHT).
peace……….gene
November 16, 2008 at 4:49 am#111921NickHassanParticipantGB,
You have heard of the lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels?Well Jesus, the Son of man, will be the judge of all men who find themselves awakened in the second resurrection. The divine judgement is against them for not believing in him, despite the gospel going throughout the world. This means that they all will still be under the wrath of God and due to be cast into the Lake of fire, but however he is authorised to rescue some [sheep] because of their mercy shown to his brothers. The rest[goats] cannot find that mercy and the lake of fire is their destiny.
November 16, 2008 at 6:31 am#111925chosenoneParticipantNick.
The “Lake of fire”, is the second death. (Rev.14:20) …14 And death and the unseen were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death-the lake of fire.“figurative”, ever heard of it?
November 16, 2008 at 6:43 am#111929NickHassanParticipantCOI,
Many allegorise what does not fit with their dogmas.
Do they have authority to do so?November 16, 2008 at 7:05 am#111935chosenoneParticipantNick.
I notice that with your “dogmas”, have you authority?November 16, 2008 at 7:29 am#111939NickHassanParticipantHi,
Universalism is based on a wrong application of the teachings of Paul made into a new gospel.
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