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Nick.
For the last time, “ALL scripture is for us, but not ALL scripture is ABOUT us”. Maybe you should write this down, so it need not be continually repeated.Blessings.
Here, I'll settle this dispute. If you don't believe that Hell is forever after this verse, then I don't know how else to persuade you besides some Book of Revelation verses. Anyway, so here goes…
Mark 9:43-48
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
acertainchap > i stated this earler and it should have setteled the issue of punishment, but there is one thing i would like to add to the decussion and that is where the word offend is used in the bible in most places should be rendered (Prevent) if your eye,hand,leg,prevent you, because your eye,hand,or leg could not offend you only prevent you and when Jesus was talking about the little childern he meant prevent them not offend them. hopes this helps
Nick Hassan> you said to chosenone so, the gospel of christ is the same for Jew's and Gentiles. i believe that also there is only one true gospel into all the world for all the world to hear, but that doesn't mean all the world accepts it. there are many who's eyes don't see and ears doin't hear it, never the less it is thrown out there for all.
God has not chosen to open everyones eyes at this time, only the elect's He has opened at this time he can obvisouly open or close anyone's mind if he choses to. so then their is hope for all.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 21 2007,11:17) Hi CO,
Is the gospel of Jesus Christ for us?
What is this gospel?
Hi CO,
What is the gospel you preach?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 23 2007,09:06) Nick Hassan> you said to chosenone so, the gospel of christ is the same for Jew's and Gentiles. i believe that also there is only one true gospel into all the world for all the world to hear, but that doesn't mean all the world accepts it. there are many who's eyes don't see and ears doin't hear it, never the less it is thrown out there for all. God has not chosen to open everyones eyes at this time, only the elect's He has opened at this time he can obvisouly open or close anyone's mind if he choses to. so then their is hope for all.
amenNick.
Nick.
I don't preach a gospel, I read and study scripture, and give my opinion when asked. I believe :All is of God, “…seeing that out of Him and though Him and for Him is all: to Him be the glory for the eons! Amen!”. (Ro.11:36)
I know you don't believe this scripture, too busy trying to “earn” your salvation by “works”.Blessings.
Hi CO,
You do preach a new gospel.
You say the gospel of Christ is only for the jews.
The rest is your gospel.Nick.
I do not have a gospel, just scripture. Unless you can show me a post I have sent, that you say is my gospel, then you will have proof. Otherwise, quit the false accusations.Blessings.
Hi CO,
You refuse the gospel of Christ saying it is just for the Jews.
Thus what you preach is your own.Nick.
No Nick, I did not say anything but what scripture says. “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel”. (Mat.15:24). These are the words of Jesus, not mine. I am only quoting scripture, so how can you say this gospel is mine?By the way, I have yet to recieve an answer regarding your accusations and proof of my quoting a gospel of my own??? Can't find one???
Blessings
Hi CO,
The same gospel of repentance is offered to the gentiles
after being refused by the Jews.
No new gospels.Nick.
The same old trick you use repeatedly, you accuse, but can not find proof that is in a posting of mine. Again, quote a posting of mine that you say that I say is my gospel. I challenge you to find one. Come on now, put up or….Blessings.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2007,07:35) Hi CO,
Why do you deny the gospel of Christ is for all men?
Nick.
Because Christ said so. (Mat.15:24)Blessings.
Nick.
Mathew 15:24. according to you, not true. Should we exclude this from scripture as a falsehood?Blessings.
Hi CO,
Mt 15.24
” 24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”Christ was first sent to the Jews.
God sends Peter with the same gospel to the gentiles.
Acts 10
” 9On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
16This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
17Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,
18And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.
19While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
20Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.
21Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?
22And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
23Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him.
24And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and he had called together his kinsmen and near friends.
25And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
26But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
27And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.
28And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
29Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me?
30And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,
31And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.
32Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee.
33Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.
34Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
37That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
39And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
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