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Hi mk,
There is not a separate gospel to the Jews.
One kingdom and one way into it.
Sadly CO is deceivedHmm,
I agree with both of you
I think there were specific warnings given to the Jews ….. and specific judgements are being carried out on them. There seems to be a danger of mixing the physical judgement against Israel/Jews and judgement against humanity.
Hi mk,
The gospel of the kingdom applies to both jew and gentile inviting them to become one in the body of Christ. Talk of more gospels brings up the warnings in Gal1Chosenone
When Jesus spoke those words, “you must be born again', he spoke them to Nicodemus. He was trying to explain to him what “born again” means; not just born from above.
Born from above is when one receives God's Holy Spirit that gradually changes once behavior, once thinking, and attitudes.
Born “again” of the “Spirit” is the first resurrection.
The covenant God will make with the house of Israel “after those days”, are the same days Jesus was talking about in Mat. 24:29.
That will be the beginning of the millennium, just a few years away.Georg
PS. the gospel of the kingdom, and the gospel of grace, are the same.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2008,11:45) Hi mk,
There is not a separate gospel to the Jews.
One kingdom and one way into it.
Sadly CO is deceived
Why would God allow there to be two different minister's – one to the Jews (Peter), and one to the Gentiles (Paul)?I think CO is making alot of sense here, Nick.
You may want to hold your judgement?Hi not3,
So because two apostles were sent in different directions the gospel of the one kingdom became divided?
hmmmWell…..perhaps there were different rules and regs for different peoples? It certainly would make sense.
Peter and Paul weren't just sent in different directions – they were sent to two different cultures/people.
Hi not3,
Same message about the same kingdom.
We all have seperate roles appointed in the one body of ChristQuote (Not3in1 @ Dec. 16 2008,18:31) Well…..perhaps there were different rules and regs for different peoples? It certainly would make sense. Peter and Paul weren't just sent in different directions – they were sent to two different cultures/people.
Hi Mandy.
You're right on…Two different messages to two different peoples.
Jesus taught the peoples of Israel (see Matt.15:24). He taught the gospel of the “Kingdom” to them. It required obedience to the “law” brought down by Moses from God. Entrance into was by 'works'. They rejected their prophesied “Messiah”, so God has set them aside and turned to the 'nations'.Paul was commisioned by God to the 'nations' (see Ro.15:16) and he taught the gospel of salvation by “Grace”. We have been 'justified' through the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus. God sees our sins no more, He (God) chooses us, both Jew and Gentile, into the 'body if Christ in accord of His will in this present era, and will save all at the “consummation (see 1Cor.15:22-28).
I hope this helps out. Do not believe 'the one eternal gospel for all', as taught by one on this sight. It is non-biblical nonsence, and false teaching.
Blessings, Jerry.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 11 2008,11:40) Hi Irene,
We do not tell God how best to do things.
No second chances.Death is followed by judgement for men.
Greetings Nick…..I guess in a literal sense there will be no second chances…..that is of course….after Gods plan for salvation is made known and available to all….Many so called christians think God is trying to save this world as we know it and in the process only a select few will be choosen….This thinking is seriously flawed simply because God does not have to try….If he did than we could all agree that he is failing…and as we all know that is not in his nature….Gods plan and government will manefest in his own good time and in that time we will all come to know the truth and there will be those who will reject it….Foe those there will be no second chance….This sounds to me as a Gospel of Hope…. Coupled with a requisite of faith..theodorej……you have most of it right IMO , but GOD doesn't hold out salvation to us. He (CREATES IT IN US) its not iffy or a chance given (IT'S A CREATION) “for you are (CREATED) unto GOOD WORKS. and again ” you are saved (NOT) of YOURSELVES (by you choices) it is a gift from GOD.” WE do (NOT) chose to be saved , GOD choses to save US.
may God bless you and yours………………………..gene
GB,
You should take care with context.
Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.The saved in Christ Jesus are, but the heathen are yet unavailable and useless to God.
Nick…..So who say they are in Christ , not me, But that not to say they will not be someday.
That doesn't change the intent of the scripture as written at all. All who are in Christ are His (GOD”S) workmanship. Quite trying to play word games Nick.
love and peace…………………gene
GB,
Do you not know who is in Christ?
And you think this applies to all now because of your imagination they will all be saved.
The vessels may be put to use but only if they come to Jesus to be cleansed and made suitable/19Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
20But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
21If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
Nick….go back and reread what i wrote,Where did i say this applies to (ALL NOW). Your so intent in finding fault you can't even read what i wrote right.
love and peace to you and yours………………….gene
GB,
So because of a possiblity you see that all may be saved you now apply all teachings for the saved to the heathen?Posted: Dec. 17 2008,07:26
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Quote (Not3in1 @ Dec. 16 2008,18:31)
Well…..perhaps there were different rules and regs for different peoples? It certainly would make sense.Peter and Paul weren't just sent in different directions – they were sent to two different cultures/people.
Hi Mandy.
You're right on…Two different messages to two different peoples.
Jesus taught the peoples of Israel (see Matt.15:24). He taught the gospel of the “Kingdom” to them. It required obedience to the “law” brought down by Moses from God. Entrance into was by 'works'. They rejected their prophesied “Messiah”, so God has set them aside and turned to the 'nations'.Paul was commisioned by God to the 'nations' (see Ro.15:16) and he taught the gospel of salvation by “Grace”. We have been 'justified' through the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus. God sees our sins no more, He (God) chooses us, both Jew and Gentile, into the 'body if Christ in accord of His will in this present era, and will save all at the “consummation (see 1Cor.15:22-28).
I hope this helps out. Do not believe 'the one eternal gospel for all', as taught by one on this sight. It is non-biblical nonsence, and false teaching.
Blessings, Jerry.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 18 2008,05:16) GB,
So because of a possiblity you see that all may be saved you now apply all teachings for the saved to the heathen?
Nick …..why not along with other scripture i see a very good possibility of it, it is certainly better then thinking they are all going to be thrown into a (LITERAL LAKE OF FIRE) and scream out into all eternity in Pain and agony. BY a So-called GOD of LOVE who tell us to forgive and love even our enemies.peace and love………..gene
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