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Exactly G,
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Sitting in your armchair philosophising is not much use.To all……..WE need to focus here on the two natures that effect a converted person. The battles we all face in this Life with the pulls of our Human nature and the Pull or influencing of our GODLY Nature given us by the HOLY SEED of GOD, implanted into our conscience. All who believe that it is (their) works alone though FEAR) that save them, have little or nothing to add to this. They have no part in this seeing they lack true faith in GOD and Put their faith in themselves and (their works). But we must believe what scripture say that we are being CREATED unto GOOD WORKS. All who have GOD'S Spirit guiding and transforming them understand it is a (WORK) of GOD. The operation of the LOVE of GOD shed around in our hearts, (cause) us to react to situations out of LOVE, and as we do this we are following spirit influence, we are being (CREATED UNTO GOOD WORK) , But the problem occurs when our carnal natures that we all have try to take the lead in our lives , this gives us all problems at times, but GOD is faithful to His word that He shall never leave us or forsake us, his spirit will convict us of our errors and continue to show is the right path that we need to walk in our lives, this is not a instant creation as it says” we are bing Created unto righteousness” this shows a process over time taking place in our lives it is a continuing changing process. If we stumble or fall, because of our flesh Nature , (as Paul said he did), we need to go to God and seek forgiveness and help to overcome the problem the HOLY SPIRIT has revealed to us in our Lives. Some get quite discouraged when they fail, because thy don't understand we all fail at time , but we are not of them the quite, but we get up and takes it to GOD the FATHER and ask for more Help to master our flesh natures. I do not believe any will completely remove themselves from sin in this life, or why would why would we need the “covering that the shame of our nakedness does not appear”. and again for “these loved (NOT) Their Lives unto death” , Why because their live were lacking even unto death. We need to realize there will be some discouragements in our walk with GOD at times , I know in my life this has been true at times. But when we need to realize others are going through these same trial and tribulations in their lives also and that should give us courage to continue. Remember we enter in through great tribulation. IMO
peace and love to you all……………………..gene
G,
You should have been convicted many times when you offered your ideas as truth.
Has that happened?Nick ………i see you still have your mouth flapping contributing nothing as usual. I believe your the one who should have bee convicted long ago and maybe you sarcasms would have ceased . Your worthless commits you should apply to yourself> You have yet to prove any of what i have said wrong, just flapping of your mouth. IMO and others also
gene
Nick………I do stick and to what is written and given understanding with it also. you should try that , instead of Parroting scripture that you have no idea what they mean. IMO
hi gene
i believe that the two nature what Paul is talking abode is in deed the flesh and the spirit,lets examen the flesh ,first none of us or extrem few are born with the scriptures written in is heart,so we have been wanderers in this wicket world learn the wicket things like swering,liying,tieving,no law ,what abode the world philosophies a ton of them,smoking ,drugs,drinking,sex,etc,just to name a few ,well what you thing is left in you, as soon that now you start reading the bible,magic poof its gone ,not a chance ,this is were you have to fight against your own self nature of flesh ,you have indolge in wicketness but your flesh as carriet abbits to be fed,now you have to undo what you did,but now you have a guide and help from the heighest level the son of God.
the rebuilt is no longer in the flesh but in the spirit you see ,now you learn Gods will you know what the do ,but that flesh of us is pulling to are old wicketness ,as time gos by and are knowledge groes we will become strong and slowly the power of the spirit will overcome the will of our fleshly nature,well one and a while we may miss Christ will cover this.if we did not ment to do it ,this is what i thing in two natures
terraricca……….I agree with that also. Paul says these two Natures are contrary one of another. I Have found that out to be true in my life also, and have had to at time consider what Paul said, it has helped me in the past in my life. I have come to see it kind of like this, we are born with and ability to accuire desires and lusts, which work as a force in us this acquired inercha is like a coil spring and wants to expand all the time to satify it self, God used the Law as a force to push down this force in us, through law working by FEAR, this fear acts like a regulation in human nature, is can be effective in regulating human nature but can not (CHANGE) our nature, it takes a NEW CREATION for that to Happen. GOD give us the Holy Spirit (intellect) of truth, it shows us our faults and begins to cut away the force that drives our Carnal natures . GOD'S Goal is to (CHANGE) our Natures to conform with His Nature, this goal can only be completed when these bodies of death are removes and we are clothed with new bodies that do not have lust of flesh in them, but for now we are being renewed in our minds to conformed to GOD the FATHERS and Jesus Christs thinking. I have noticed the older i get the weaker my body is becoming and the less i lust, it seem as my body is dying so is my lust for the flesh with it, which i am glad for that. I desire to be clothed from on high where there will be (NO) weakness or Lusts of the Flesh anymore. Many things change as we age for the good as far as the Spirit is concerned. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
hi gene
i agree,this is the way of men,i am close to 70 years old and under no circonstances i have regrets there as been nothing in this world for me and the wife for the past 50 years,we long for Christ kingdomterraricca……….I long for it too. were not to far apart in age.
peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
The New Nature is called:
The Spirit
The inward man
The new manThe Old Nature is called:
The flesh
The outward man
The old manHi CO,
It is the salvation of the soul that is the plan of God[1Peter]
So we who have the gift of the Spirit must allow ourselves to be renewed in our inward man by that Spirit.[Rom12]
The outer man is of adam and earth and cannot inherit the kingdom.[1Cor15]Quote (Gene @ Dec. 14 2009,04:42) martian……….i went to my privtate messenger and there was no PM's there. Try again brother.
OK Gene,
I sent another PM.Con………You have rightly present it, WE how have GOD'S Spirit of TRUTH in Us and given a higher INTELLECT or Spirit from GOD. WE are able to (PERCEIVE THE TRUTH) While other gabble with it but never come to the (UNDERSTANDING) of What scriptures really means. It simple has not been given to them. But we all also have our Human natures we struggle and With Gods Spirit we are overcoming our Carnal natures as we Grow in (GRACE) God's influencing on the HEART, and (KNOWLEDGE)> These two Natures (ARE) contrary one of another as Paul said. WE are being (CREATED) UNTO GOOD WORKS, but SELF RIGHTEOUS people like to think they by their (OWN) so-called (FREE WILLS) save themselves by their OWN FREE WILL CHOICES. They fail to give GOD the FATHER the CREDIT for HIS CREATIVE WORKS in US. For we are SAVED (BY GRACE) AND THAT (NOT OF OURSELVES), these words they Hate to hear< Because in truth they trust in themselves ONLY. IMO
peace and love to you and your……………gene
Nick…….The TRUTH is the Higher intellect , FOR the SPIRIT searches the Mind of GOD, and i believe it is a higher (INTELLECT) even though you don't believe it is. O well you are welcome to your opinions as all are.
gene
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