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Mike has recently become relentless in personal attacks and IMO developing a sort of “Hitler” mentality. You can see how he has treated me and how he has continued to spin out of answering honest questions—–> Click Here…
So I have asked Mike a couple of questions that I do not think he is honestly answering.
So I created this thread to see what others think.
Mike has repeatedly taught here that there are many gods in the Bible including Jesus. He has said with his own words that he is his god….
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2011,17:00) And I don't know of a scripture that calls Jesus “the true god” (changed to [a] true god), but I agree that he is.
AND…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 05 2011,18:35) Jesus is the god, or “powerful ruler” of all in heaven right now, and of the believer's on earth.
AND…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2011,14:05) Jesus is one who has been called by the title “god”, so he is also “A god”. He has not specifically been called “THE god” of anything in particular, but knowing that “god” only means “ruler”, I can honestly say that he is “my god“.
It took me a long time to get Mike to admit that Jesus was “his god”, and take note that he calls Jesus “a true god” and also says “Jesus is the god, or “powerful ruler” of all in heaven right now, and of the believer's on earth” which means to Mike he is his “god” and “powerful leader”.Now take note that Mike does not capitalize the word god because he is saying Jesus is “a god”.
My question to Mike for 1 Cor 8:6 was…
Is the Father the “only god” spoken of in 1 Cor 8:6?
Notice in my question the word “god” is with a little [g] since in the Greek there are no caps. Now remember Mikes statements above where he calls Jesus his “god”, yet here is how Mike answered the question…
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 07 2011,20:39) YES! That's what I've been asking YOU! 
Now my question to everyone and to Mike, is this an honest answer since Mike says Jesus is “a god” and “his god”?Also, the other question was…
Scripturally is Jesus the “only lord” spoken of in 1 Cor 8:6?
Once again the word “lord” is not capitalized because the Greek has no such emphasis, yet once again Mikes answer was…
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 07 2011,20:39) The Father is most definitely NOT the “one Lord” mentioned in 8:6.
Well is that an honest answer? Did I ask if Jesus was the “one Lord” spoken of in 1 Cor 8:6? No my question was…Scripturally is Jesus the “only lord” spoken of in 1 Cor 8:6?
Is the Father not also “lord”?
Keep in mind Mike has also said this…
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2011,20:38)
Jack, I have never:
2. Tried to be deceptive
3. Failed to answer a direct question that was related to the topic at hand
Mike are you going to answer these questions honestly or not?WJ
Hi All
Remember you will not be incriminating yourself by voting because the votes are anonymous, no one knows but you how you vote. All I want is an honest vote!
WJ
Keith, if there is A question you would like me to answer, ask IT please.
I won't ever answer every question in your flood posts. I've told you this over and over. In fact, I've told you that when you ask so many questions in one post, you end up hurting yourself, because I will cherry pick the ONE that I WANT TO answer.
If you have a question that you feel is important, ask that one question in a direct way in a small post to me, okay? I won't read through your novels and spend my time answeing 20 questions in one response.
And please pick one thread or another to ask your ONE question in, okay? Whichever thread your question is in tomorrow will be the ONE thread we continue this discussion in, okay?
Keith, I don't think this poll is right. it seems only those voted that believe in the trinity. I have never seen Mike lie….. If He didn't answer all the question You asked. How can anyone of us do…..He told you to ask one at the time…..Irene
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2011,11:33) Hi All Remember you will not be incriminating yourself by voting because the votes are anonymous, no one knows but you how you vote. All I want is an honest vote!
WJ
WJwe all know that the disciples called Jesus lord.right ?yes
would you assume WJ that this would be a cause to make God the father Jesus or vise Versa because in the old testament God is called also LORD ?
Pierre
Keith! Even though I voted, I find these polls ridiculous. The reason is that we would have to go through all posts to see who is wrong. That i don;t think anyone would do. That is why this poll is not true of either one of you. But since you are leading in this poll, its not fair to Mike, I think all your partners came and helped… …..
Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,
Thanks for the supportive words.
Keith is angry with me because he was caught in a lie and I presented the proof in the spotlight for all to see. He is merely trying to lash out in retaliation. But I'll honestly answer any question he wants to ask………..ONE AT A TIME. We've got scriptures backing us, right? What question could possibly be too hard for us?
mike
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2011,23:33) Hi All Remember you will not be incriminating yourself by voting because the votes are anonymous, no one knows but you how you vote. All I want is an honest vote!
WJ
I do not see voting on this matter as being moral as it is not my job to side with with one brother against another.I would rather work to reconcile my brothers to what God wants of them.
I understand that human being were not created to do all things and thus have limits on them such as the fact they cannot breath water. So it clear that our minds play tricks on us and we see what is not there. This is sometime the tricks of the Devil but other times it is just the righteous limits God placed on our person to test our heart.
Wow People!
My poll is not calling Mike a liar. This poll is to see what others think about Mikes answers to the questions. The evidence is there.
I find it amazing that all you guys are fussing at me about this honest poll yet no one said anything about Mikes poll accusing me of being a liar.
Mike is still accusing me though he knows that he has no proof that I lied.
Notice I am not calling Mike a liar for accusing me of lying for 12 days even though he had already said twice that I answered his question. What gives?
WJ
Quote (Baker @ April 13 2011,20:00) Keith, I don't think this poll is right.
IreneWell then you should march right on over to Mikes poll that calls me a liar without the facts and tell him the same thing or continue to show your bias.
Quote (Baker @ April 13 2011,20:00) …it seems only those voted that believe in the trinity.
And just how do you know every one that has voted are Trinitarian? Maybe they are just honestly answering the questions.Quote (Baker @ April 13 2011,20:00) I have never seen Mike lie….. If He didn't answer all the question You asked. How can anyone of us do…..He told you to ask one at the time…..Irene
Well look at this poll and what I posted above and tell me if he answered honestly.WJ
Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2011,23:43) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2011,23:33) Hi All Remember you will not be incriminating yourself by voting because the votes are anonymous, no one knows but you how you vote. All I want is an honest vote!
WJ
I do not see voting on this matter as being moral as it is not my job to side with with one brother against another.I would rather work to reconcile my brothers to what God wants of them.
I understand that human being were not created to do all things and thus have limits on them such as the fact they cannot breath water. So it clear that our minds play tricks on us and we see what is not there. This is sometime the tricks of the Devil but other times it is just the righteous limits God placed on our person to test our heart.
KerwinHas anyone said Mike’s poll was immoral? Have you made this comment to Mike or voted in his poll? His poll calls me a liar. All I am doing here is asking some honest questions and wanting your opinion.
I am not calling mike a liar like he is calling me.
WJ
I would also like for those who voted Mikes answers are truthful how you could come to that conclusion based on my post at the beginning of this thread? Are you being honest in your vote?
WJ
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2011,18:13) Keith, if there is A question you would like me to answer, ask IT please. I won't ever answer every question in your flood posts.
Thats funny Mike. You mean it is okay for you to ask lots of questions in a post but no one else can?How about your “FLOOD” post here…?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2011,18:13) If you have a question that you feel is important, ask that one question in a direct way in a small post to me, okay?
Thats funny I had only 2 questions here in this thread and you still haven't answered them truthfully, have you?WJ
Quote (princess @ April 14 2011,07:57) well said Kerwin
Hi Peirre, Kerwin, and IreneI just want to know where you guys were when Mike created a thread to slander me by calling me a liar and it ended up slandering Kathi also?
The opening of his thread was not even true because I had answered his question and he had even agreed that I had twice before he created the thread.
I don't see any of you guys making comments against Mike or accusing him of having an immoral poll in his poll.
———–>Click here and see for yourself!<————Could it be that maybe there was a little “yea go get that Trinitarian” attitude or maybe a little “bias” going on because Mike is an anti-trin?
I hope that your own honesty and integrity is greater than that.
I have been wronged here people and I am hoping some one would have the courage to stand up and say so.
WJ
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2011,21:37) Keith is angry with me because he was caught in a lie and I presented the proof in the spotlight for all to see.
MikeYou keep saying this but you do not know my heart and you cannot prove that my first answer was not an oversight.
Mike, did you lie when you accused me for 12 days of not answering you even though you had already said twice that I had answered you HONESTLY?
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2011,20:30) Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2011,23:43) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2011,23:33) Hi All Remember you will not be incriminating yourself by voting because the votes are anonymous, no one knows but you how you vote. All I want is an honest vote!
WJ
I do not see voting on this matter as being moral as it is not my job to side with with one brother against another.I would rather work to reconcile my brothers to what God wants of them.
I understand that human being were not created to do all things and thus have limits on them such as the fact they cannot breath water. So it clear that our minds play tricks on us and we see what is not there. This is sometime the tricks of the Devil but other times it is just the righteous limits God placed on our person to test our heart.
KerwinHas anyone said Mike’s poll was immoral? Have you made this comment to Mike or voted in his poll? His poll calls me a liar. All I am doing here is asking some honest questions and wanting your opinion.
I am not calling mike a liar like he is calling me.
WJ
I am not going to accuse Mike either. You are correct that my opinion is that the poll is immoral.I have attempted to advise Mike to take a different viewpoint. I am of the opinion that we all need to do as scripture states and lean to listen to others, think before we speak, and take a long time to get angry.
I am striving not to take sides and so I ask you to look at thing from his point of view as well.
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2011,20:23) Wow People! My poll is not calling Mike a liar. This poll is to see what others think about Mikes answers to the questions. The evidence is there.
I find it amazing that all you guys are fussing at me about this honest poll yet no one said anything about Mikes poll accusing me of being a liar.
Mike is still accusing me though he knows that he has no proof that I lied.
Notice I am not calling Mike a liar for accusing me of lying for 12 days even though he had already said twice that I answered his question. What gives?
WJ
I seem to blur these threads together as I though this was Mike's thread. That makes me a case of what I wrote earlier.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2011,08:52) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2011,18:13) Keith, if there is A question you would like me to answer, ask IT please. I won't ever answer every question in your flood posts.
Thats funny Mike. You mean it is okay for you to ask lots of questions in a post but no one else can?How about your “FLOOD” post here…?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2011,18:13) If you have a question that you feel is important, ask that one question in a direct way in a small post to me, okay?
Thats funny I had only 2 questions here in this thread and you still haven't answered them truthfully, have you?WJ
Keith,Is there A question you'd like me to answer? I will be happy to if you would stop crying over spilt milk and ask it already.
As far as my “flood post”, there are 4 questions, and each requires only a “Yes” or a “No”. (Well actually, if you were to answer them honestly, each requires only a “YES”.
)But you are welcome to answer them one at a time. Go ahead and cherry pick your favorite, and give me your answer to it okay?
I won't cry about you only answering one. Instead I'll thank you for your honest answer and ask one of the other ones. Keith, if you have learned nothing else from me, you should have at least learned how to deal with people who didn't answer your questions. ASK THEM AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN UNTIL THEY ANSWER THEM. So……………..ask away. But know in advance that I consider myself and anyone else on this site to be required to only answer one question per post. If you have 10 questions, make 10 posts with one question in each.
mike
Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2011,20:03) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2011,20:23) Wow People! My poll is not calling Mike a liar. This poll is to see what others think about Mikes answers to the questions. The evidence is there.
I find it amazing that all you guys are fussing at me about this honest poll yet no one said anything about Mikes poll accusing me of being a liar.
Mike is still accusing me though he knows that he has no proof that I lied.
Notice I am not calling Mike a liar for accusing me of lying for 12 days even though he had already said twice that I answered his question. What gives?
WJ
I seem to blur these threads together as I though this was Mike's thread. That makes me a case of what I wrote earlier.
KerwinKerwin why would you be so dishonest by not seeing that there were two different threads?
You see what I mean?
Of course you are not dishonest, for like you said you were the victom of oversight.
It looks like oversight is ok for some but not for others.
WJ
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