Trinity – Is 1:18’s Proof Text #4

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,16:42)
    Hi WJ,
    Have you seen the original manuscript?
    Bishop Eusebius did and had a copy in his library which the Romans burnt down.

    He said that Jesus said in that verse we were to baptise “in my name”


    Hi NH

    Also if Eusebius had a “Copy” of the original manuscript then it was not the original was it?  ???

    So then what about the rest of the 10,000 copies of the Original manuscripts which has Mattew 28:19? ???

    WJ

    #134887
    NickHassan
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    Hi WJ,
    I will bring up his thread

    #134890
    942767
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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 27 2009,08:20)

    Quote (TechJoe @ June 26 2009,16:18)
    “Fellowship in the Spirit of God with the Father and the Son is the way.”
    Hmmmph!! the Spirit of God, the Father, and the Son; Where I went to school 1+1+1=3


    Hi TJ

    And they all have a name.  :)

    Mattew 28:19

    Blessings WJ


    Hi WJ:

    What is the name of the Holy Spirit?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #134893

    Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,17:25)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 27 2009,08:20)

    Quote (TechJoe @ June 26 2009,16:18)
    “Fellowship in the Spirit of God with the Father and the Son is the way.”
    Hmmmph!! the Spirit of God, the Father, and the Son; Where I went to school 1+1+1=3


    Hi TJ

    And they all have a name.  :)

    Mattew 28:19

    Blessings WJ


    Hi WJ:

    What is the name of the Holy Spirit?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Hi 94

    What is the name of the Father? We do not know do we?

    Jesus said Go in the name “singular” of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit which simply means there is One name by which all men will be saved.

    The Apostles made it clear that that name is Jesus!

    It is at the name Jesus that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess.

    All that God is, is summed up in that one Name which is above every name!

    Jesus is making it clear here as well as in many places that the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are three in One!

    Blessings WJ

    #134894
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    There is some evidence that Mt 28 was altered.
    The apostles obeyed Jesus baptising in his name.

    #134895
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    The apostles baptised in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
    Jesus is not the name of God.
    Jesus is a man.

    #134896

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,17:42)
    Hi WJ,
    There is some evidence that Mt 28 was altered.
    The apostles obeyed Jesus baptising in his name.


    Hi NH

    Mattew 28:19 does not contradict what the Apostles did.

    The name is singular for the three.

    Where is the evidence that Mt 28:19 should be struck from the 1000s of manuscripts? ???

    WJ

    #134897
    Cindy
    Participant

    W.J. and Tim! I am sorry, but Rev. tells us to come out of her my people. If what one believes is not preached, how can you fellowship with that Church. Nick is right the most important fellowship is with God and Jesus, is it not?
    Peace and Love Irene

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    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Cindy @ June 27 2009,09:53)
    W.J. and Tim!   I am sorry, but Rev. tells us to come out of her my people.  If what one believes is not preached, how can you fellowship with that Church.  Nick is right the most important fellowship is with God and Jesus, is it not?  
    Peace and Love Irene


    Irene,
    You are misapplying the Revelation. Jesus claimed to be the the First and the Last, the Almighty (Rev. 1:8).

    thinker

    #134905
    942767
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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 27 2009,09:33)

    Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,17:25)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 27 2009,08:20)

    Quote (TechJoe @ June 26 2009,16:18)
    “Fellowship in the Spirit of God with the Father and the Son is the way.”
    Hmmmph!! the Spirit of God, the Father, and the Son; Where I went to school 1+1+1=3


    Hi TJ

    And they all have a name.  :)

    Mattew 28:19

    Blessings WJ


    Hi WJ:

    What is the name of the Holy Spirit?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Hi 94

    What is the name of the Father? We do not know do we?

    Jesus said Go in the name “singular” of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit which simply means there is One name by which all men will be saved.

    The Apostles made it clear that that name is Jesus!

    It is at the name Jesus that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess.

    All that God is, is summed up in that one Name which is above every name!

    Jesus is making it clear here as well as in many places that the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are three in One!

    Blessings WJ


    Hi WJ:

    Is God our Father? If so, He has made His name known.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #134914
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Marty said:

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    Hi WJ:

    Is God our Father?  If so, He has made His name known.

    Marty,
    The apostles commanded men to repent and be baptized in Jesus' name.

    thinker

    #134920
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (thethinker @ June 27 2009,13:57)
    Marty said:

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    Hi WJ:

    Is God our Father?  If so, He has made His name known.

    Marty,
    The apostles commanded men to repent and be baptized in Jesus' name.

    thinker


    Hi thethinker:

    Yes, I know. Is Jesus the name of the Father?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #134921
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Thank you for mentioning Revelation Irene.
    Revelation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father:
    Not God his Father but God AND his Father!! Ahoh
    Something besides the Father has been referred to as God!!

    #134922
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (TechJoe @ June 27 2009,15:24)
    Thank you for mentioning Revelation Irene.
    Revelation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father:
    Not God his Father but God AND his Father!! Ahoh
    Something besides the Father has been referred to as God!!


    Hi TechJoe:

    There is “Only One God”. The verse that you quoted is translated that way in the Greek interlinear, but that is not what the scripture states:

    This is from the YLT:

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    Rev 1:6 and did make us kings and priests to his God and Father, to him [is] the glory and the power to the ages of the ages! Amen.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #134923
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Hi Marty,
    identify “the scripture”

    #134924
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I stand on the KJV

    #134925
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (TechJoe @ June 27 2009,15:54)
    Hi Marty,
    identify “the scripture”


    Hi TechJoe:

    I don't know what you mean by “identify the scripture”.

    I can't copy and paste from the Greek interlinear that I am reading, but it reads: And makes us kingdom sacred-ones to The God and Father of Him…

    If you are asking for a scripture which states that there is but “One God” try this one:

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    1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #134926
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Hello again Marty,
    Do you stand on the YLT?
    Or do you pick and choose from whichever version suites your need?

    #134927
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Greek interlinear and YLT?
    any others?

    #134928
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (TechJoe @ June 27 2009,16:12)
    Hello again Marty,
    Do you stand on the YLT?
    Or do you pick and choose from whichever version suites your need?


    Hi TechJoe:

    I believe that the King James version of the bible is the most accurate, although there are errors, and so that is the version of the bible that I use.

    I quoted the scripture from the YLT because YLT means literal translation, but also I gave you what the Greek interlinear bible actually states.

    It appears that what you are accusing me of doing, is what you are actually doing?

    Anyway, God knows my heart and also knows yours.

    I know that there is only “One God”, and I gave you a scripture which states that. Do you agree with that scripture or not?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

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