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Was God in Christ reconciling the world to Himself or was Christ another god doing the work?
Nick,
GOD WAS IN JESUS AS MAN
NOT IN CHRIST.
NOW JESUS AS MAN, THE SON OF MAN,
WAS “THE WORD” MADE FLESH, THE MOST HOLY TRINITY IN FULL POWER IN THE SON!
SO IF JESUS WAS THE WORD MADE FLESH,
AND THE WORD WAS GOD
GOD WAS IN HIMSELF
GOD FOR HIS OWN GLORY, ESTABLISHED A PARTICULAR OPERATION IN THE VERY BEGINNING, AND CALLED IT “THE WORLD”
CONFIRMED HEREUNDER:
1Corinthians12:6 And there are diversities of
OPERATIONS,but
THE SAME GOD, who worketh all in all.
AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL NICK, “THE WORD” IS A PARTICULAR OPERATION/FUNCTION WHICH GOD ESTABLISHED IN THE VERY BEGINNING!
NOW ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO PRODUCE OTHER OPERATIONS WHICH GOD ESTABLISHED IN ORDER FOR HIM TO WORK
ALL IN ALL
I KNOW YOU WON’T ACCEPT IT BUT YES THE VERY MOST POWERFUL OPERATION:
THE HOLY TRINITY
ALL IN THE SON, “THE WORD” THE SPIRIT OF THE SON! THE MEDIATOR SPIRIT, THE LAMB OF GOD SLAIN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD REV.13:8
SEALED IN NATURE TO SUSTAIN ALL, AND RECONCILE ALL FOR THE FATHER!
JOHN 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life everlasting, which the Son of man will give you.
For him hath God, the Father, sealed.
HE IS IN YOU NICK! JESUS’SPIRIT
AND UNLESS YOU ACCEPT THIS FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH,
THE HOLY SPIRIT WOULD NEVER WORK IN YOU
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
Unsurprisingly you believe in your own ideas despite what SCRIPTURE SAYS in 2 COR 5 .19
” namely that God was in CHRIST reconciling the world to Himself..”
DavidH,
The Father sent His Spirit down from heaven to His Son..
Father, Son and Holy Spirit – separate yet unified.
Why do you prefer the meaning men attribute to the words of God instead of what the Spirit tells you?
Ephesians 4:3-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
3 endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
These have nothing to do with the meaning you have been taught to attribute to them but it is instead about:
Galatians 5:22-23Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
DavidL,
The Holy Spirit cries out against accusing God of being tempted by sin. It is only those who do not want to come into the light who will not come to see the flaw in such a Spiritless teaching.
Those that are guided by the Spirit believe the Father is Jesus’ God because he said so. Jesus Christ is not equal to God but instead worships God in spirit and truth. Like unto Adam on the day of creation he bears the image of God.
Why do certain people in here, always find something to bring down everyone who thinks/believes different to them, as in they purport to know the truth. Or think they have it 100% together, NO_ONE does, for most people it is ‘right’ for now. Your insistence that you are correct shows you are not. Knowledge puffs up. love builds up.
DavidH,
Sometimes others have superior knowledge to you.
It is hard for human beings to face the truth which is why “polite lies” exist.
DavidH,
Jesus Christ did not come to bring peace he came to bring the sword. He always strove to “bring down” the Pharisees and Sadducees. He was even known to offend some. (Matthew 15:12) His words were true and we are to learn from him and not the world or our culture.
Hi davidh,
We are mostly here to learn, but some for other reasons.
Thy word is truth so we work towards that understanding.
The hope is to shine the light into the darkness of the world.
Jesus Christ is not equal to God
Kerwin,
When God, the deity, EXTERNALLY was in his own glory he was in continuous from eternity to eternity, always ENRICHING HIMSELF, through all his work!
He wouldn’t do anything just for fun! No?
God Establishes a process in order to achieve another higher process through it, and maintains what He had, in ALL what He does, and up to this day!
So He becomes more powerful every time He accomplishes a process, and also during the process itself He would be always in general progression!
So there was no time and there won’t be a time that God ever would be a COMPLETE function, operation! But ALWAYS WORKING! Always on the MOVE, in progression,
Genesis 1:2, John5:17 But Jesus answered them: My Father works until now; and I work.
This is confirmed in many instances in scripture!
NOW DO YOU THINK THAT GOD ACHIEVED PERFECTION OF HIS CREATION, AND GLORIFIED, THROUGH JESUS CHRIST PROCESS, SOMETHING THAT GOD THE DEITY COULD IN NO WAY ACHIEVE SINGLE HANDED,
(a)PASS ALL HIS ATTRIBUTES AND POWER TO CHRIST,
(b)STILL WORKING TO PUT CHRIST’S ENEMIES AS HIS FOOTSTOOL,
(c)BY USING WHAT HE ACHIEVED, AND STRENGTHENED HIMSELF WITH/IN/ AND BY CHRIST, AND IN THE SAME TIME:
CHRIST IS NOT THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT?????????????????????
THE FACT THAT ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD, JESUS CHRIST WOULD EVENTUALLY PASS ALL BACK TO HIS FATHER,
OTHERWISE THE FATHER, WOULD NEVER BE ALL IN ALL, OR MORE ACCURATE
AS POWERFUL AS CHRIST IS NOW?
Now read hereunder and reflect:
Hebrews1 :2
In these days hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he has
APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS
There’s nothing absolutely nothing which God the Father has, and didn’t pass to His Son!
John17:10 And all MY things are YOURS, and YOURS are MINE; and I am glorified in them.
In the above only it is evidently clear that Jesus Christ is MORE THEN EQUAL since the Father gave all his attributes to Him, and in the same time
Jesus Christ possessed HIS OWN ACHIEVMENT THROUGH HIS OWN BLOOD! WHILE THE FATHER WAS SIMPLY WATCHING! in a mode to say!
THE FACT THAT GOD GAVE ALL TO JESUS CHRIST TO BE
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!
THE GENUINE REASON THAT HE WAS SENT !
MORE PROOF AVAILABLE IN THIS REGARD!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Unsurprisingly you believe in your own ideas despite what SCRIPTURE SAYS in 2 COR 5 .19
2 Corinthians 5:19 For God indeed was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, not imputing to them their sins; and he hath placed in us the word of reconciliation.
Nick,
You have to go back to Sunday school again, I’m afraid!
PAUL SAID:
FOR GOD INDEED WAS IN CHRIST! SO HE IS NO LONGER IN CHRIST HE WOULD HAVE SAID: HE IS IN CHRIST!
Jesus was called Christ even before he died, although He was not yet Christ, BUT CHRIST TO BE!
John 11:27 She saith to him: …………thou art Christ the Son of the living God, who art come into this world.
John4:25 The woman saith to him: I know that the Messiah cometh, who is called Christ; ……..26Jesus saith to her: I am he, who am speaking with thee.
SO JESUS THE MAN, who was also called Christ, DEFINITELY HAD GOD IN HIM!
BUT GOD THE FATHER LEFT HIM FROM THE CROSS, AND HE IS NOT ANY MORE IN HIM,
since JESUS CHRIST, GLORIFIED,AND REPLACED HIM AS
GOD AND FATHER OF ALL ISAIAH 9:6
THE SOLE RULER OVER ALL
THE SUSTAINER OF ALL
THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT CALLED IN THE TRUTH
JESUS CHRIST
THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES IN HEAVEN, AND ON EARTH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Charles,
You wrote a lot of words but the bottom line does not change and that is that Jesus Christ called our Father and his Father God; just as we do. He also prayed to him; just as we do.
There is one true God and that is the one Jesus and we call Father and God.
So you also reject Jn 17. 22-23?
Nick,
Again, are you ready to produce the above scripture???????
andEXPLAIN IN YOUR INTELLIGENCE WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO!
SINCE WHEN WE READ SCRIPTURES WE HAVE DIFFERENT PERCEPTION ALTHOUGH WE READ THE SAME WORDS!
NOW THE TRUTH MUST COME ONLY THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT FROM WITHIN US WITH THE POWER OF CHRIST, HE HAS TO GLORIFY HIM, HE WOULD SPEAK NOT OF HIMSELF, BUT IN/BY WHATEVER HE RECEIVED FROM JESUS!
BUT FIRST WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS IN US!
SO IF YOU BELIEVE THAT HE IS IN YOU:
DO NOT BE AFRAID,
DO NOT HAVE TROUBLE IN YOUR HEART
JESUS HAS OVERCAME THE WORLD SO
GO IN THE OPEN
MANIFEST THE LIGHT SO
GOD THE FATHER ALWAYS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST
WOULD BE GLORIFIED!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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