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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,04:03) edj WHAT HIS THE TRUTH ?
Hi Pierre,
Jesus Christ is.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,11:32) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,04:03) edj WHAT HIS THE TRUTH ?
Hi Pierre,
Jesus Christ is.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjquoting scriptures does mean you understand them ,right ? yes
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,09:03) edj quoting scriptures does mean you understand them ,right ? yes
Hi Pierre,Which verses are you accusing me of not understanding? no
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,09:03) edj quoting scriptures does mean you understand them ,right ? yes
Hi Pierre,Are you posting Scriptures that you really don't know what they mean? …why would you do that?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,11:32) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,04:03) edj WHAT HIS THE TRUTH ?
Hi Pierre,
Jesus Christ is.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjWHY??
Like most denominations they range from holding themselves with the highest regard to being the only Church and the only ones possessing the truth.
It is a disease and many are infected.
The real Church is the Body of Christ and the members of the Church are those with the spirit of God dwelling in them.
Denominations contain real believers to real deceivers and everything in between.
For that matter, so do libraries, car sales yards, and MacDonalds.
Denominations are themselves part of the world system and often have a structure that includes a CEO, finance officers, and invest in worldly organisations to get rich, as well as extract tithes from sheeple, even though we are clearly taught in scripture to never give under compulsion.Hi t8,
In the JW Kingdom Halls, they don't pass a plate. There is a little wooden box in the back of the hall (usually out of site from the congregation as a whole) that you can choose to deposit money into. There is no one watching, expecting, or pandering.
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,09:47) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,11:32) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,04:03) edj WHAT HIS THE TRUTH ?
Hi Pierre,
Jesus Christ is.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjWHY??
Hi Pierre,John 5:39-40 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye
have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.God's Signature
Proof of God=117
GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,02:45) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2012,00:29) Do they believe that they are the only ones who will be saved?
No. Millions that have lived in centuries past and who were not Jehovah's Witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.
Hi Mike,The word “No” is misleading, as it only deals with the past.
I have brought this to your attention before, but you seem to ignore it.I asked: “Is it not true that your organization teaches that non-members are non-Christians?”
David did not deny this is their teaching through 13 pages of questioning. (here is the link) <– Pages 65-78God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Yes,you certainly have noticed that word, NO.
It is deceiving indeed,but this is how they manipulate the flock all along,they are very skilful with words. RUTHERFORD WAS A LAWYER AS FAR AS I KNOW.(correct me if i am wrong.)wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 13 2012,17:45) RUTHERFORD WAS A LAWYER AS FAR AS I KNOW
See what I mean, David?
Not only are all JWs bad, but all lawyers are too!
Wakeup, paranoid much?
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,17:32) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,09:47) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,11:32) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,04:03) edj WHAT HIS THE TRUTH ?
Hi Pierre,
Jesus Christ is.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjWHY??
Hi Pierre,John 5:39-40 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye
have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.God's Signature
Proof of God=117
GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edj5 on 10 half way there
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2012,10:06) Hi t8, In the JW Kingdom Halls, they don't pass a plate. There is a little wooden box in the back of the hall (usually out of site from the congregation as a whole) that you can choose to deposit money into. There is no one watching, expecting, or pandering.
This is something I have mentioned to T8 about 3 or 4 times over the years.I completely understand his frustration at people being fleeced, or pressured into giving money (collection plate being passed around) or at a tithe, which I know he hates.
But JW's don't tithe. I have actually asked T8 to stop mentioning this in connection with JW's, simply because it annoys me that he keeps repeating it, despite the fact that he should by now know better, since I keep stating this to him.
You can literally attend a Kingdom hall for years, and not ever put anything into any box. (Not that it's not encouraged to “support the worldwide work” of building kingdom halls, though.)
Quote (david @ Feb. 14 2012,19:14) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2012,10:06) Hi t8, In the JW Kingdom Halls, they don't pass a plate. There is a little wooden box in the back of the hall (usually out of site from the congregation as a whole) that you can choose to deposit money into. There is no one watching, expecting, or pandering.
This is something I have mentioned to T8 about 3 or 4 times over the years.I completely understand his frustration at people being fleeced, or pressured into giving money (collection plate being passed around) or at a tithe, which I know he hates.
But JW's don't tithe. I have actually asked T8 to stop mentioning this in connection with JW's, simply because it annoys me that he keeps repeating it, despite the fact that he should by now know better, since I keep stating this to him.
You can literally attend a Kingdom hall for years, and not ever put anything into any box. (Not that it's not encouraged to “support the worldwide work” of building kingdom halls, though.)
DavidQuote You can literally attend a Kingdom hall for years, and not ever put anything into any box. (Not that it's not encouraged to “support the worldwide work” of building kingdom halls, though.) this is true ,but if we understand the great structure how the WJ org, works on a national plan ,local plan,international plan ,
then we see better what it is all about ,of cause thing s have changed because their is more money coming in today than 40 years ago ,many things were build on given land by zealous believers ,just like in other religion,if the money is short coming it as to be split by the locals or the cir conscription (many local All s together) so it works the up or down,
clans are also formed ,different country's different approach need adaptation ,but the organization is first to be protected against all odds,WHAT IS TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE ,any world organization would do the same thing or face bankruptcy
I have also seen that the older elders are replaced and removed from office ,toleration on opinions against the org; is not tolerated ,yea what can I say man made with the spirit of men ,covering up any thing that can be blamed to the ORG;
no company in this world has it easy ,global business is booming big money at stake each proselyte is potential of income ,this is why the making of books when new purchases have to be made is helpful and convenient ,
unless you understand the great picture ,you can not understand this process,many have been deceived by that Organization ,sins it exist, just as from all the other religions.
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,09:47) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,11:32) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,04:03) edj WHAT HIS THE TRUTH ?
Hi Pierre,
Jesus Christ is.
God bless
Ed J
edjWHY??
PIERRE,Because everything in the bible that is spoken of him is true.
All things in him are “Yea”! …Praise YHVH for “The Truth”!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2012,11:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 13 2012,17:45) RUTHERFORD WAS A LAWYER AS FAR AS I KNOW
See what I mean, David? Not only are all JWs bad, but all lawyers are too!
Wakeup, paranoid much?
Hi Mike,This is true: Rutherford was a lawyer.
Whether this true fact is in anyway connected
to what we are talking about has yet to be established.The word “no” is misleading because, though it is a denial of
the carefully constructed question in its entirety, it subsequently leads the naive
reader to believe that they are saying no to this very carefully constructed question of mine…“Is it not true that your organization teaches that non-members are non-Christians?”
A question that I asked to David at least 10 times, with him purposefully:
1. avoiding it: by talking about something different.
2. diverting from answering the question: by answering different questions.
3. by: switching a variant of the question around in a very feeble attempt to get me to answer it for him.“Is it not true that your organization teaches that non-members are non-Christians?”
The question is not about him saying yes to it, but instead about him denying that it is true, which after
13 pages of nearly one on one questioning with him would have certainly produced a denial if it wasn't true!So his refusal to deny it is strong evidence of “The Truth”, which is: that it “IS” what JW.org does teach its members.
Plus “Dirtyskins” and “Between JW's and Christendom” both have affirmed it to be true
and both having had close connections to their organization; as well as your buddy Pierre.Plus I have provided at least two separate bible verses in the N.W.T. which allow for this idea,
though it is not really what the original language is saying in each case. Now you can turn your
back to this evidence if you want, but there are many here that know that this is what they teach!Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ Feb. 14 2012,12:14) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2012,10:06) Hi t8, In the JW Kingdom Halls, they don't pass a plate. There is a little wooden box in the back of the hall (usually out of site from the congregation as a whole) that you can choose to deposit money into. There is no one watching, expecting, or pandering.
This is something I have mentioned to T8 about 3 or 4 times over the years.I completely understand his frustration at people being fleeced, or pressured into giving money (collection plate being passed around) or at a tithe, which I know he hates.
But JW's don't tithe. I have actually asked T8 to stop mentioning this in connection with JW's, simply because it annoys me that he keeps repeating it, despite the fact that he should by now know better, since I keep stating this to him.
You can literally attend a Kingdom hall for years, and not ever put anything into any box. (Not that it's not encouraged to “support the worldwide work” of building kingdom halls, though.)
Hi David,What do you have to say about horror stories of Elderly JW members being persuaded
to leave their inheritance to the watchtower society over their own disfellowshiped progeny?The question to you is: “would you approve of such a practice”?
I don't want you to state whether or not you are not aware of such a practice, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT MY QUESTION TO YOU.
So will you please be forthright and simply answer the question that I asked?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ Feb. 14 2012,12:14) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2012,10:06) Hi t8, In the JW Kingdom Halls, they don't pass a plate. There is a little wooden box in the back of the hall (usually out of site from the congregation as a whole) that you can choose to deposit money into. There is no one watching, expecting, or pandering.
This is something I have mentioned to T8 about 3 or 4 times over the years.I completely understand his frustration at people being fleeced, or pressured into giving money (collection plate being passed around) or at a tithe, which I know he hates.
But JW's don't tithe. I have actually asked T8 to stop mentioning this in connection with JW's, simply because it annoys me that he keeps repeating it, despite the fact that he should by now know better, since I keep stating this to him.
You can literally attend a Kingdom hall for years, and not ever put anything into any box. (Not that it's not encouraged to “support the worldwide work” of building kingdom halls, though.)
Hi david.This is true that the jws never ask for donations.
But please open your eyes; they are making lots of money,selling the magazines, and books after books,and booklets after booklets,and videos.The printers and workers gardeners,all of them, are not payed wages,they all are valuntary,they just get their food. They are made to believe they are working for God. I have seen the videos,I must admit ,they are very organised,but this is not the point.
We must look what is happening behind the scenes.
Dont take this personally,I love all of them.
what I abhor is the organisation.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
There is nothing wrong with being organized.
The problem with hierarchy is impropriety
and the lack of fiduciary responsibilities.
Consider carefully what Yashua said:Revelation 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold
the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 15 2012,00:18) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,09:47) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 14 2012,11:32) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2012,04:03) edj WHAT HIS THE TRUTH ?
Hi Pierre,
Jesus Christ is.
God bless
Ed J
edjWHY??
PIERRE,Because everything in the bible that is spoken of him is true.
All things in him are “Yea”! …Praise YHVH for “The Truth”!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyes eddy you got it .10 on 10 bravo
Pierre
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