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Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,13:54) “Did Christ start to rule in heaven in 1914 Mike”?
He went back to the glory that he had with the Father before the world began.If I had to choose a date when he ruled God's Kingdom (after the resurrection) and if it had to have the number 14 in there, then I would choose 0014AD, not 1914AD.
Jesus said “it is finished”. He accomplished his work back then, and since then the world has been passing away and at some stage, all the kingdoms of the world will be superseded by the Kingdom of God.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 13 2012,11:05) And if you and I banded together and pooled our resources to go around the world preaching the good news, would you and I then be an “organization” who puts the believers last?
Mikewhy in heaven sake s would i do a thing like that ,???
who is calling men to him ???is it not God through his written word
I can share what I understand and so improve with others in exchange for their understanding and walk in the knowledge I have received,
this is what I do on this forum,but I would never join or make a group and use that for my own purpose or make it so believe to others that it is for God 's work.
I have already explain in a other place ,that God as paid well many men to publish his scriptures all over the world ,so that the ones he calls can be nourished by it;
I am on this earth to collect a treasure in the spirit that is stored in heaven not on earth ,
many coming under my name says Jesus ;but their treasure is in this world.
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 13 2012,14:44) Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,13:54) “Did Christ start to rule in heaven in 1914 Mike”?
He went back to the glory that he had with the Father before the world began.If I had to choose a date when he ruled God's Kingdom (after the resurrection) and if it had to have the number 14 in there, then I would choose 0014AD, not 1914AD.
Jesus said “it is finished”. He accomplished his work back then, and since then the world has been passing away and at some stage, all the kingdoms of the world will be superseded by the Kingdom of God.
t8yes ,Jesus said he ad finish what he came for ,and he was King on earth wen he died he became King in heaven when he was resurrected by his father ,and that is where it is right now we waiting so that the number of our brothers are completed for the first resurrection,then I believe the end will come
Pierre
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2012,14:44) If I had to choose a date when he ruled God's Kingdom (after the resurrection) and if it had to have the number 14 in there, then I would choose 0014AD, not 1914AD.
When Jesus was only 14 years old, t8? THAT'S the date you would choose.
I don't know about 1914, but I do know that in 96 C.E., John wrote his revelation of things STILL TO COME. One of those things STILL TO COME was recorded in Rev 12:10.
Hey all, I made a deal with Pierre. I'm bailing from all of the JW threads. You all can think and post about them whatever you wish without interruption from me from now on.
Later,
mikeQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,16:11) Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,15:45) Quote FINALLY! Something that you should have said to me from the start – instead of attacking me If asking a simple question is attacking, then Jesus attacked a lot of people.
Hi David, agreed!Hey wait a minute: then why do you believe the questions
that I ask you about your organization to be attacks;
is this not a bit hypocritical on your part, David?God bless
Ed J
bump for DavidQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,15:17) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,16:11) Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,15:45) Quote FINALLY! Something that you should have said to me from the start – instead of attacking me If asking a simple question is attacking, then Jesus attacked a lot of people.
Hi David, agreed!Hey wait a minute: then why do you believe the questions
that I ask you about your organization to be attacks;
is this not a bit hypocritical on your part, David?God bless
Ed J
bump for David
Ed, you were doing it in every thread I posted in. It was too much.Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,15:27) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,15:17) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,16:11) Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,15:45) Quote FINALLY! Something that you should have said to me from the start – instead of attacking me If asking a simple question is attacking, then Jesus attacked a lot of people.
Hi David, agreed!Hey wait a minute: then why do you believe the questions
that I ask you about your organization to be attacks;
is this not a bit hypocritical on your part, David?God bless
Ed J
bump for David
Ed, you were doing it in every thread I posted in. It was too much.
Hi David,That was because instead of telling me “The Truth”, you were insistent on dodging my simple question…
“Is it not true that your organization teaches that non-members are non-Christians?”
We have since established that this is indeed what they teach. (Eph.5:13)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,15:52) Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,15:27) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,15:17) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,16:11) Quote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,15:45) Quote FINALLY! Something that you should have said to me from the start – instead of attacking me If asking a simple question is attacking, then Jesus attacked a lot of people.
Hi David, agreed!Hey wait a minute: then why do you believe the questions
that I ask you about your organization to be attacks;
is this not a bit hypocritical on your part, David?God bless
Ed J
bump for David
Ed, you were doing it in every thread I posted in. It was too much.
Hi David,That was because instead of telling me “The Truth”, you were insistent on dodging my simple question…
“Is it not true that your organization teaches that non-members are non-Christians?”
We have since established that this is indeed what they teach. (Eph.5:13)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, do you know what a fallacious question is?It didn't seem that there was any possible reason for mike to not want to answer my question. it seems like he sometimes picks a belief he doesn't even agree with and defends it.
It's something that interests me greatly, and for good reason. Because sometimes Ed, I do the same.
Hi David,
Are you now going to now pretend it isn't true?
Because I can provide LOT'S of evidence and chase you
all over this forum all over again; is that what you REALLY want?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:02) Ed, do you know what a fallacious question is?
Hi David,You could have simple have said (at any point) that it was not true;
by your refusal to do so is yet another piece of evidence proving it is true!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,16:13) Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:02) Ed, do you know what a fallacious question is?
Hi David,You could have simple have said (at any point) that it was not true;
by your refusal to do so is yet another piece of evidence proving it is true!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No Ed. I couldn't have. I don't think you spend a lot of time thinking about my comments.Because you seem to not be getting it, I will again say, my comments don't prove what you think they do. Ed, a fallacious question is a little bit like a paradox. I can not answer it as you want me to.
I could respond to it and explain why the question is fallacious, and explain why your comments to me are “attacks” and not questions, and you would understand, but I didn't want to.
And on a side note, I do like to play games.
Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:25) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,16:13) Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:02) Ed, do you know what a fallacious question is?
Hi David,You could have simple have said (at any point) that it was not true;
by your refusal to do so is yet another piece of evidence proving it is true!God bless
Ed J
No Ed. I couldn't have.
Hi David,I know David, because you know 'bearing false witness' is sinful!
That is why I persisted with you to help me to establish “The Truth”!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:25)
And on a side note, I do like to play games.
Hi David,I know.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,16:31) Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:25) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,16:13) Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:02) Ed, do you know what a fallacious question is?
Hi David,You could have simple have said (at any point) that it was not true;
by your refusal to do so is yet another piece of evidence proving it is true!God bless
Ed J
No Ed. I couldn't have.
Hi David,I know David, because you know 'bearing false witness' is sinful!
That is why I persisted with you to help me to establish “The Truth”!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This is a great case of you, seeing what you want to see. And cutting the rest out.Ed, go back to my pm to you. Read the words. Think about other things I've said in the last few days.
Hi David,
Do you somehow believe your words are above mine?
I think you need to study 'self-deception' a bit more; don't you?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,16:41) Hi David, Do you somehow believe your words are above mine?
I think you need to study 'self-deception' a bit more; don't you?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No, I just know that you are missing some facts. We all deceive ourselves.Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:43) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,16:41) Hi David, Do you somehow believe your words are above mine?
I think you need to study 'self-deception' a bit more; don't you?God bless
Ed J
No, I just know that you are missing some facts. We all deceive ourselves.
Hi David,I have been trying to show you “Facts” that you
have not considered; are you now willing to look at them?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,15:52)
“Is it not true that your organization teaches that non-members are non-Christians?”
Hi David,Do you deny that this is what the JW”S teach?
Here is yet another opportunity for you to deny it!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:35) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,16:31) Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:25) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,16:13) Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:02) Ed, do you know what a fallacious question is?
Hi David,You could have simple have said (at any point) that it was not true;
by your refusal to do so is yet another piece of evidence proving it is true!God bless
Ed J
No Ed. I couldn't have.
Hi David,I know David, because you know 'bearing false witness' is sinful!
That is why I persisted with you to help me to establish “The Truth”!God bless
Ed J
This is a great case of you, seeing what you want to see. And cutting the rest out.Ed, go back to my pm to you. Read the words. Think about other things I've said in the last few days.
Hi David,FALSE! …it is yet another example of you playing games!
I challenge you to deny that this isn't true!
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,15:52)
“Is it not true that your organization teaches that non-members are non-Christians?”God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,23:31) Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:25) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2012,16:13) Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2012,16:02) Ed, do you know what a fallacious question is?
Hi David,You could have simple have said (at any point) that it was not true;
by your refusal to do so is yet another piece of evidence proving it is true!God bless
Ed J
No Ed. I couldn't have.
Hi David,I know David, because you know 'bearing false witness' is sinful!
That is why I persisted with you to help me to establish “The Truth”!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjWHAT HIS THE TRUTH ?
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