They shall "all" be taught of, ( or is it, by) GOD

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  • #802234
    GeneBalthrop
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    Terricca……JESUS SAID JOHN 6:45….It is written in the prophets, and they shall “all” be “TAUGHT” of (by) GOD. Every man therefore that has heard, and has learned of (by) the FATHER, comes unto me.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene

    #802235
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick…..nesh-aw-maw’ tell us if the word “intellect” is used as a definition, with reguards to the soul, spirit?

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene

    #802239
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    Why would we follow you down your intellectual ratholes?

    #802251
    terraricca
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    Gene

     

    do you not see that your answer is not really a answer for you quoting the scripture that you do not understand ,if you understand then tell me how,when,and were God teaches us ?

    #802323
    GeneBalthrop
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    Terricca…..1 John 2:27……”But the anointing which you have recieved from him abides in you,and you need not “any” man teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of “all” things,and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it has “taught” you, you shall abide in him.

    THERE it is in a nut shell brother.IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene

    #802324
    terraricca
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    Gene

    you haven’t told me nothing for I don’t see how they would have received so that it abides in them ? PLEASE EXPLAIN

    #802330
    GeneBalthrop
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    Terricca…….The SPIRIT OF GOD IS THE ANOINTING JHON WAS TALKIN ABOUT IT IS OUR TEACHER BECAUSE IT CAUSES US TO SEE AND UNDERSTAND THE THINGGS OF GOD. “For the spirit “itself” bears witiness, with our spirit, that we “are” the childern of God.”.

    1 John 2:20….”but you have a unction (a special endowment, an “anointing”), from the HOLY ONE, and you know ( a better word “percieve”), all things.

    Not that we actually “know” everything, no one knows everything but GOD, but we have the “ability” to “percieve the truith” in all thing when we hear it. That is what the spirit of truth, or COMFORTOR does , it rasies our “intellects” in order to “percieve the truth” in all things, therefore we are no longer tossed around with every wind of doctrine as many are, remember Jesus said he would send “it” to us, from the FATHER.

    I don’t know if i have answered your question or not Terricca

    peace and love to you and yours. …………..gene

    #802332
    terraricca
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    Gene but scriptures says it is with the heart that we understand the truth not with our intellect,and that God has talked to us through his son and his disciples told us about him for they saw him and were taught by him ;this is why it says ; Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,

    their is no other message ,Gene ,that’s it and so God talk to us all through his written word ,but to understand it we have to understand it through our heart, for God is LOVE and it is with the heart that we love ,

    #802359
    GeneBalthrop
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    Terricca…….Yes the heart is where the love of GOD IS SHED, that is how God writes his law in our inward parts, but that being said, it also says, “by the renewing of our minds” we are being changed, love of GOD effects our emotions, through the “intellect” in our minds, they are tied together in all humans, you can’t have one and not the other.

    1 Cor 2:11…. “for what man “knows the things of a man, save the spirit of man whch is “in” him? Even so the things of GO KNOWS NOMAN, BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD. 12…. Now we have “recieved” not the spirit of the world, but the spirit (INTELLECT) which is of God; that we might “KNOW” the things that are freely given to us from GOD.

    Terricca, all of 1 Cor 2-11 through 2-16, the whole thing is talking about our “intellects” and how they are changed by the spirit of GOD, brother. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene

    #802366
    NickHassan
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    Hi GB,

    Through the INTELLECT?

    That does not come from the Teacher as it finds no echo in scripture.

    Back to the drawing boards.

    #802373
    terraricca
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    Gene

    1Co 2:11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
    1Co 2:12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
    1Co 2:13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
    1Co 2:14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
    1Co 2:15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment:
    1Co 2:16 “For who has known the mind of the Lord
    that he may instruct him?”

    it talks about many spirits but no intellect ,i know that men’s mind works with his heart,

    #802400
    GeneBalthrop
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    Terricca……SPIRITS IMPUTE THEIR DESTINCT INTELLECTS TO US. THEY COME IN ALL TYPES AND KINDS, THERE IS THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM, NOW ASK YOURSELF IS WISDOM NOT A INTELLECT OF THE MIND, OR THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, IS THAT ALSO NOT A INTELLEGENCE, THE SPIRIT OF THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THAT NOT ALSO AN INTELLEGENCE, THEY ALL EFFECT OUR THINKING AND THEREFORE ARE INTELLECTS, all spirits impute their particular intellects into our minds. While types of spirits can be grouped like good and evil, clean and unclean they are not the same spirit, we are told to try the spirits to see if they are of OR FROM GOD, for instance JESUS showed us unclean spirits can bring many more into a person, they are not the exact same spirits, they differ one from another even though the can all be grouped as unclean spirits. That is a category or type of spirits, and as there are types and kinds of unclean spirits there are also types and kinds of clean spirits. They all effect the state of the person they are in, because they effect his or here thinking, they are types and kinds of intellect’s that abide in people. We can identify them by what they say, through a person, like an accuser of the brethern that some have working in them even here, an don’t even know it. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene

    #802410
    terraricca
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    Gene

    SPIRITS IMPUTE THEIR DESTINCT INTELLECTS TO US.

    please be more specific and detailed

    #802421
    NickHassan
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    Hi -GB’

    Good and evil spirits?

    what sort of witchcraft are you promoting?

    #802437
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    NICK……Is Satan a good or evil spirit. Is GOD A GOOD OR EVIL SPIRIT? Why not say ALSO what clean and unclean spirits are there? Because you are ignorant about what spiits are and what TYPES AND KINDS there are, does not mean everyone else is. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene

    #802438
    GeneBalthrop
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    Terricca…… lets let JESUS TELL US, READ WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE UNCLEAN SPIRITS, AND REMEMBER THEY DIRECTLY EFFECTED THE LAST “STATE” OF THAT MAN. Another words his thinking or better his intellect became destored by those unlean spirits “in” him. Spirits impute their particular type AND kind to our minds, they are intellegent and can control the minds of people they are in, therefore it say “let this “mind” be in you that was in christ Jesus our lord. That mind was the mind of GOD THE FATHER, HOW?, BY HIS SPIRIT THAT WAS IN JESUS. God the Father was truly “in”JESUS. THE SAMETHING APPLIES TO US . IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene

    #802441
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Then why do you not tell us what God has taught you instead of just sharing your own intellectual follies?

     

    #802468
    terraricca
    Participant

    Gene

    what you telling me is that some spirit being come inside us to tell us things ? is that it ? and if we listen to them then we our mind may be making us doing things we don’t want to do ? is this it ?

    this is the best i get out of your explanation

    #802470
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB

    “lets let JESUS TELL US, READ WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE UNCLEAN SPIRITS, AND REMEMBER THEY DIRECTLY EFFECTED THE LAST “STATE” OF THAT MAN. Another words his thinking or better his intellect became destored by those unlean spirits “in” him.”

    Rubbish.

    You add to scripture your own ideas again.

    #802489
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……what do you think JESUS MEANT WHEN HE SAID “The last “state” of that man was worse then the first”, what state washe talking about was it not his mental state? Is not a mental state the condition of our intellects or thinking.

    You seem to lack spritual decernment in this case. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene

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