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Carmel,
I do not adhere to the Trinity teaching. Those are some of of the Trinitarian teachings of others I have heard.
Ed,
If you do not want a heretic then do not teach what you should not teach. Instead teach the truth. Jesus came to save his people from their sins. Those that believe that they can be like God in true righteousness and holiness and seek to do it will do so when they are fully mature in Christ.
Hi Nick
Actually his death showed the human race that death does not have the victory.
Those who find Jesus Christ and submit to him find eternal life
Death where is thy sting?
He set free those who live in fear of death
Nick other people had already been raised from the dead and a few people returning from the dead actually does not decrease anyone’s fear of death faith in God decreases a persons fear of death and even then one has to at that moment take a deep breath and grab onto God, even Jesus cried “not my will”
Hi BD,
Would they believe even if a man was raised from the dead?
Many should fear death as the only boat of salvation is Jesus.
you should stop dodging the fact that mount=420 and you were deceived into saying “desolate”=420
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Hi BD, stop being so dense.
Here is Daniel 11:31 in Hebrew, SEE THE LAST WORD?
וּזְרֹעִים, מִמֶּנּוּ יַעֲמֹדוּ; וְחִלְּלוּ הַמִּקְדָּשׁ הַמָּעוֹז, וְהֵסִירוּ הַתָּמִיד, וְנָתְנוּ, הַשִּׁקּוּץ מְשֹׁמֵם[size=15]=420[/size]. (Daniel 11:31)
That is the word the “AKJV Bible” translated to ‘DESOLATE’
(Hebrew is read from right-to-left)“and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate” (Dan 11:31)
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation=114,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand)” (Matt 24:15)420 in the Hebrew and 114 in the English
(that is the meaning of your riddle given to you by that spirit)114 suras in the quran
quran is the abomination that causes desolation.____________
God bless
Ed JEd,
If you do not want a heretic then do not teach what you should not teach. Instead teach the truth. Jesus came to save his people from their sins. Those that believe that they can be like God in true righteousness and holiness and seek to do it will do so when they are fully mature in Christ.
Hi Kerwin,
What you think of me matters not.
What I do appreciate though is that you finally fessed up!
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God bless
Ed JEd J,
As far I am concerned you are one heretic attacking the teachings of another hereticHi Kerwin,
Jesus was also considered a heretic, so I’m in good company!
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God bless
Ed JHi EDJ
Hi BD, stop being so dense.
Here is Daniel 11:31 in Hebrew, SEE THE LAST WORD?
וּזְרֹעִים, מִמֶּנּוּ יַעֲמֹדוּ; וְחִלְּלוּ הַמִּקְדָּשׁ הַמָּעוֹז, וְהֵסִירוּ הַתָּמִיד, וְנָתְנוּ, הַשִּׁקּוּץ מְשֹׁמֵם=420. (Daniel 11:31)
That is the word the “AKJV Bible” translated to ‘DESOLATE’
(Hebrew is read from right-to-left)“and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate” (Dan 11:31)
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation=114,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand)” (Matt 24:15)420 in the Hebrew and 114 in the English
(that is the meaning of your riddle given to you by that spirit)114 suras in the quran
quran is the abomination that causes desolation.Mark 13:14
“When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where it does not belong–let the reader understand–then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.Seems you have to be mistaken if it was the Dome of the rock that’s 1300 tears ago but I will tell you that you just disproved your own theory of Jesus having already returned
26And then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory.
Guess what EDJ you just proved your own self wrong AGAIN because if Jesus already returned your other pet theory about the dome of the rock has to be wrong since it was built hundreds of years after the day of Pentecost, so you still saying Jesus has already returned….which of your pet theories are you going to pick from you can’t have both
Hi ED,
Now the Lord is the Spirit.
Just as God manifests now on earth as His Spirit.
But when Jesus returns as King on the seat of David he will be physically here.
Carmel,
I do not adhere to the Trinity teaching.
Kerwin,
Your statement doesn’t confirm truth, since you committed yourself, and not ready to produce substantial evidence in order to justify your adherence is rigid, and faithful!
scripture is crammed with
TRINITY PROOF, BUT THE FACT THAT IT IS A MATTER OF FAITH FIRST, YOU WOULD NEVER SEE THE TRINITY, AND THE EVENTUAL REAL TRUTH
GOD’S TRINITY CONCEPT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT GOD IS OMNIPOTENT!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
hi C,
No mention of a trinity in scripture.
But the overactive minds of men think they see it between the lines.
If they really listened to Jesus they would see it is all the work of God through His Spirit.
They know not what they do more proof
the teaching that God the Son is subject to God the Father in the Godhead.
Edj,
Jesus was subject to the Father as much as the Father was subject to Jesus!
THEY ARE ONE IN EVERY SENSE!
for the argument sake:
If Jesus on earth refused to die, The Father would have never GLORIFIED
The fact that:
THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD!
WHICH MEANS
THAT THE HEAD WITHOUT THE BODY IS NOTHING AS MUCH AS THE BODY IS NOTHING WITHOUT THE HEAD!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
But the overactive minds of men think they see it between the lines.
Nick,
In another thread I posted what’s hereunder regarding the trintiy!
The devil has his own trinity CONCEPT, otherwise he wouldn’t have existed at all!
God created all within the concept of its respective trinity,
SINCE HE HIMSELF ABIDED IN ALL: OMNIPRESENCE
THE FACT THAT WE LUCIFER’S REMNANTS ARE:
Spirit, soul and flesh! All in one
BODY, AND ON THE LAST DAY THESE THREE ENTITIES WOULD BECOME ONE FOR ETERNITY IN ORDER TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR GOD ALMIGHTY TO ABIDE
ALL IN ALL!
ONE!
NOW SINCE YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY DOCTRINE, YOU WILL NEVER DISCERN SCRIPTURES WHICH MANIFESTED IT, EXTRAVAGANTLY.
HEREUNDER SCRIPTURE GIVES AN EXAMPLE OF
THREE DIFFERENT FUNDAMENTAL TYPES OF TRINITY DOCTRINE DEPICTIONS!
Matthew 17:1 AND after six days Jesus taketh unto him
Peter and James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into a high mountain apart:
THE FIRST ONE:
Notice, John,
Indicated the double trinity in THE UNIQUE HUMAN FIGURE of Jesus THE MESSIAH, both as SON OF MAN, and SON OF GOD !
Simply in the NUMBER OF DAYS WHICH IS SIX
Which it is the only true reason that he included that particular phrase:
And after SIX days,
and also the term:
Jesus taketh unto him, followed by
Peter, James and John which demonstrates BOTH THE HUMAN BEING!
SON OF MAN! AND ADAM THEIR SINFUL FATHER.This is manifested in Genesis 1:26,27
since it is on the SIXTH day that God
MADE MAN and ALSO CREATED MAN a reference BOTH to the divine man Jesus, SON OF GOD, and to Adam, respectively! SON OF MAN,
DEPICTED IN THE APOSTLES.
This is also asserted in the difference of the verses, where in 26, a reference to the divinity of Jesus, SON OF GOD,
God , MADE MAN, and declared that HE would have dominion over
every creeping creature that moves upon the earth. A REFERENCE TO THE DEVILS!!!!But in 27, the ABOVE particular reference is not included, and also the word CREATED is used INSTEAD of MADE which is definitely a reference to the human being both of ADAM and also of Jesus!
THIS CONFIRMS THE PARADOXICAL STATE OF JESUS,
BOTH CREATED AND MADE, OBVIOUS SINCE WITHIN HIS SOUL, HE HAD:
SATAN’S SPIRIT, A CREATED BEING, AND AS
“THE WORD”, THE SON OF GOD HE WASN’T CREATED!
THE SECOND ONE
Notice how John introduced the apostles:
PETER AND JAMES, and then he said AND JOHN! He should have written:
Peter, James and John. THIS IS TYPICAL of JOHN to make us aware of certain LIGHT! So in this case he made us aware, that PETER AND JAMES REPRESENT THE HUMAN BODY IN:
FLESH, depicted in PETER, and the SOUL depicted in JAMES!
THEN JOHN ON HIS OWN! Which depicted the spirit!
Also to notice that, JAMES AND JOHN WERE BROTHERS, A REFERENCE TO THEIR RELATION: SYMBOLICALLY SPIRITS
So The above verse is the most common kind of trinity, which is a reference to the
SINFUL HUMAN BEING.
THE FACT THAT JOHN USED THE TERM:
Jesus taketh unto him, SINCE HE WAS IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN!
THE THIRD ONE.
2 And he was transfigured before them. And his face did shine as the sun: and his garments became white as snow.
3 And behold there appeared to themMoses and Elias talking with him.
The above is RELATED TO THE MOST HIGH DIVINE TRINITY
THE GODHEAD GLORIFIED IN THE MAN JESUS!
JESUS represented THE FLESH “THE WORD MADE FLESH”
MOSES represented THE SOUL BY “THE WORD”
ELIJAH represented THE SPIRIT THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN “THE WORD” THE ONLY MEDIATOR SPIRIT. NOTICE HIS NAME: ELI JAH WHICH SIGNIFIES GOD
AGAIN ALSO IN THIS CASE, MOSES AND ELIJAH UP TO THAT MOMENT IN TIME, BOTH WERE THE GREATEST PROPHETS, AND THEY SIGNIFY THE SOUL AND THE SPIRIT RESPECTIVELY
ELIJAH, prefigured THE SPIRIT,
THE FACT THAT HE NEVER DIED, HE WENT TO HEAVEN ALIVE AS A HUMAN, ALTHOUGH HE WAS A HUMAN IN REALITY HE WAS ALSO A SPIRIT BEING! Elijah was never aware of this throughout his life!
MOSES, prefigured THE SOUL,
ALTHOUGH MOSES DIED, IN ACTUAL FACT HE DID SO, ONLY IN ORDER TO RESPECT THE CONCEPT THAT SINCE ADAM DIED, THE FIRST SOUL, ALL HIS EVENTUAL DESCENDANTS ALSO DIED!
TO NOTICE IS THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN JESUS AND MOSES WHICH IS ASTOUNDING THE FACT THAT THEY PREFIGURED THE HUMAN DIVINE BEING! IN SOUL AND FLESH!
THIS IS ALSO INDICATED IN THE FACT,THAT MOSES GRAVE WAS NEVER FOUND! WHICH IS AN INDICATION THAT WHEN THE MESSIAH CAME MOSES CAME BACK TO LIFE. HE WAS ONLY ASLEEP!
And Peter answering, said to Jesus: Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles, one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
4 And as he was yet speaking, behold a bright cloud overshadowed them.NOTICE AS PETER WAS STILL TALKING AND WANTED TO MAKE THREE SEPARATE TENTS,
ONE CLOUD COVERED THEM,WHICH SIGNIFIES THAT ALTHOUGH THEY WERE THREE, THEY REPRESENTED THE UNITY OF THE TRINITY, THE GODHEAD AS ONE IN JESUS!CONFIRMED AGAIN IN GOD’S OWN WORDS:
5 And lo, a voice out of the cloud, saying: This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased: hear ye him.
NOTICE,AFTER THE CLOUD COVERED THE THREE OF THEM,NOT WHEN JESUS WAS ON HIS OWN, OR THE CLOUD COVERED JESUS ONLY,
GOD DECLARED AND SAID THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, OK?
THE THREE OF THEM, IN ONE CLOUD, REPRESENTED
THE SON OF GOD AS A DIVINE BEING IN
SPIRIT, SOUL, AND FLESH!
THE GODHEAD IN ITS GLORY!
JESUS CHRIST!
THROUGHOUT THE OT. GOD’S ABODE WAS DEPICTED IN A CLOUD!!!
Numbers 9:18 ………..All the days that the CLOUD abode over the TABERNACLE, they remained in the same place:
Now John ALSO emphasised the triune concept even in the THREE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES, NO MORE NO LESS!
In verse ONE he showed us TWO TYPES
THE SON OF GOD AND THE SON OF MAN! JESUS IN THE NUMBER SIX AND THE COMMON HUMAN BEINGS THROUGH ADAM! IN THE APOSTLES, PETER, JAMES, AND JOHN!
THEN:
From verse 2 onwards he MANIFESTED TO US,JESUS’ TRIUNE GLORIFICATION, OF THE GODHEAD!
GOD MAN JESUS
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST.
THE ONLY MANIFESTATION OF GOD ON EARTH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
SEE THE LAST WORD?
וּזְרֹעִים, מִמֶּנּוּ יַעֲמֹדוּ; וְחִלְּלוּ הַמִּקְדָּשׁ הַמָּעוֹז, וְהֵסִירוּ הַתָּמִיד, וְנָתְנוּ, הַשִּׁקּוּץ מְשֹׁמֵם=420. (Daniel 11:31)
That is the word the “AKJV Bible” translated to ‘DESOLATE’
(Hebrew is read from right-to-left)“and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate” (Dan 11:31)
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation=114,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand)” (Matt 24:15)420 in the Hebrew and 114 in the English
(that is the meaning of your riddle given to you by that spirit)114 suras in the quran
quran is the abomination that causes desolation.____________
God bless
Ed JHi BD, you are ever learning but never able to come to the truth…
Prophecy is given as “a day for a year”. ‘dome of the rock'(abomination of desolation) was built in the year 688AD.
…………………..688 + 1260 = 1948
And the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness(Nations), where she hath a place prepared of God,
that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev 12:6)Ed (witness)
Carmel,
You said “faith” first but Scripture states believing comes from hearing the word. I heard Jesus call his Father and our Father God and therefore I believe his spoken word.
If you do not believe that his Father and our Father is our God then you do not believe the words he spoke.
I used a logical argument with the premises that 1) Jesus only speaks truth and 2) A statement Jesus said. I then added those two together in order to come to the conclusion. That is the mechanics and it not necessary to know what you are doing in order to do it.
Is there any where in Scripture where the Spirit is called God?
Hi Kerwin, here are three…
Acts 5:3-4 – Luke 1:35 – 1Tim.3:16
Hi BD, you are ever learning but never able to come to the truth…
Prophecy is given as “a day for a year”. ‘dome of the rock'(abomination of desolation) was built in the year 688AD.
…………………..688 + 1260 = 1948
And the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness(Nations), where she hath a place prepared of God,
that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev 12:6)Ed (witness)
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy;
whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto
a light that shineth in a dark place” (2 Peter 1:19)
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