The word Prince

[Is 1:18]

And no, I don;t think prince is applied to Michael in a prophetic way, he is an 'arch' (i.e. chief) angel.

[NickHassan]

Hi Is 1.18
“Number 8269
Transliteration:
sar {sar}
Word Origin:
from 8323
TWOT:
2295a
Part of Speech:
noun masculine
Usage in the KJV:
prince 208, captain 130, chief 33, ruler 33, governor 6, keeper 3, principal 2, general 1, lords 1, misc 4

Total: 421
Definition:
prince, ruler, leader, chief, chieftain, official, captain
chieftain, leader
vassal, noble, official (under king)
captain, general, commander (military)
chief, head, overseer (of other official classes)
heads, princes (of religious office)
elders (of representative leaders of people)
merchant-princes (of rank and dignity)
patron-angel
Ruler of rulers (of God)
warden

NT
'Number 747
Transliteration:
archegos {ar-khay-gos'}
Word Origin:
from 746 and 71
TDNT:
1:487,81
Part of Speech:
adjective
Usage in the KJV:
prince 2, captain 1, author 1

Total: 4
Definition:
the chief leader, prince
of Christ
one that takes the lead in any thing and thus affords an example, a predecessor in a matter, pioneer
the author

[Phoenix]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2007,05:48)

Hi Is 1.18 “Number 8269 Transliteration: sar {sar} Word Origin: from 8323 TWOT: 2295a Part of Speech: noun masculine Usage in the KJV: prince 208, captain 130, chief 33, ruler 33, governor 6, keeper 3, principal 2, general 1, lords 1, misc 4 Total: 421 Definition: prince, ruler, leader, chief, chieftain, official, captain chieftain, leader vassal, noble, official (under king) captain, general, commander (military) chief, head, overseer (of other official classes) heads, princes (of religious office) elders (of representative leaders of people) merchant-princes (of rank and dignity) patron-angel Ruler of rulers (of God) warden NT 'Number 747 Transliteration: archegos {ar-khay-gos'} Word Origin: from 746 and 71 TDNT: 1:487,81 Part of Speech: adjective Usage in the KJV: prince 2, captain 1, author 1 Total: 4 Definition: the chief leader, prince of Christ one that takes the lead in any thing and thus affords an example, a predecessor in a matter, pioneer the author

Hi Nick

What exactly is all that called? Do you have this in your bible or is it on a website somewhere?

[NickHassan]

Hi P,
This comes from the CONCORDANCE part of this site-go to the top of the page and click on heaven net.

Remember however that the concordance is drawn from how the translators of the version [KJV here]used have chosen to translate the word so it introduces a certain bias.

[NickHassan]

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[NickHassan]

Hi,
Michael is one of the leading princes.
Christ the messiah is the Prince of princes

[NickHassan]

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[michaels]

Quote (MichaelTheeArchAngel @ June 03 2006,14:00)

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great (prince)    According to my info the word LEADER is translated PRINCE.

god appoints the leaders, so a prince could be anyone willing to stand up for god,stand up! god gives the titles,yet to be a great prince is nothing,unless your great in gods eyes!

[NickHassan]

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[gollamudi]

So brother Nick,
You mean to say Satan is the prince of this world and some other angels also are the princes of kingdoms of this world?

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
What does scripture say?

[gollamudi]

I also believe that certainly there are Satan and other spirits behind all these worldly powers as mentioned in Ephesians.

[GeneBalthrop]

Adam……read and study what Jodi is saying about the subject i believe she has the best reasoning on the subject. This thing on demons and devils contains a lot of mystery type of thinking and you need to be careful about it, this subject has been used for centuries to control and cause doubt in the hearts and mind of people for centuries.

peace to you and yours…….gene

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Reason has never been reliable as a sole guide.

[gollamudi]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 13 2008,04:30)

Adam……read and study what Jodi is saying about the subject i believe she has the best reasoning on the subject.  This thing on demons and devils contains a lot of mystery type of thinking and you need to be careful about it, this subject has been used for centuries  to control and cause doubt in the hearts and mind of people for centuries. peace to you and yours…….gene

Thanks brother Gene,
I appreciate your concern for me on the subject of Satan and devil. So far I am not convinced fully by our sister Jodi. But I still remain open minded to receive any truth.
Peace to you
Adam

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
Who are these princes?
Who is the prince of princes?
Who is Messiah the prince?

[gollamudi]

Quote (gollamudi @ July 11 2008,22:52)

So brother Nick, You mean to say Satan is the prince of this world and some other angels also are the princes of kingdoms of this world?

I have already mentioned it in my post above.
Jesus is the Messiah the Prince and he is the Lord of Lords and king of kings.
Blessings
Adam

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
So what do the princes of Daniel have in common?

[gollamudi]

Hi brother,
Here is the verse in Dan 11:
13 But the prince of the kingdom of the Persians resisted me one and twenty days: and behold Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I remained there by the king of the Persians.

Do you mean to say the other princes are of this worldly kingdoms ?
Thanks and blessings
Adam

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
Clearly they are not but have responsiblities in higher realms over what happens on earth.

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