The word is really the holyspirit

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  • #328827
    Ed J
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    Quote (abe @ Jan. 19 2013,12:00)

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    Quote (abe @ Jan. 12 2013,19:54)
    Hi Ed,

    Is.59:21     As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, AND my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seeds seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.

    What does this verse mean to you?

    Peace……..


    Good post honest Abe!  It means the same as this:

    “And then shall that Wicked (son of perdition) be revealed, whom
     [The LORD JEHOVAH] shall consume with the spirit of his mouth,
     and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: (2Thess 2:8) (see also Rev.21:2-3)

    Your brother
    in Christ,
    Ed J


    Hi Ed,

    Heb.4:12   For the Word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged Sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and Spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discern the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    Eph.6:17   And take the helmet of salvation, and the Sword OF THE Spirit, which is the Word of God:

    Do you still think the Word of God is the Spirit of God?


    Hi Abe,

    Of course, what has changed?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,

    1Jn.1:1   That which was from the beginning, which we have Heard, which we have Seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our Hands have handled, concerning the Word of life.

    Matt.24:39   (Jesus)  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I Myself, Handle Me and see, for a Spirit does not have Flesh and Bones as you see I HAVE.

    Jn.5:37   (Jesus)  And the Father himself, who sent me, have testified of me. You have neither heard his Voice at any Time, nor Seen his Form.

    Acts2:34   Therefore being exulted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the PROMISE of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now SEE and HEAR.

    Didn't the Apostle John live with Jesus for over three years?

    Peace…


    Hi Abe,

    Handling “The Word” of God does NOT mean fondling Jesus,
    but rather taking part in the writing of “The Bible;” God's word.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328830
    Ed J
    Participant

    I'm a 'hyperdimensionalist'!
    Not a 'hyperdispensationalist'?

    #328833
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,10:47)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,10:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,05:00)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,09:02)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,00:41)

    Quote (abe @ Jan. 18 2013,15:34)

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    Quote (abe @ Jan. 12 2013,19:54)
    Hi Ed,

    Is.59:21     As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, AND my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seeds seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.

    What does this verse mean to you?

    Peace……..


    Good post honest Abe!  It means the same as this:

    “And then shall that Wicked (son of perdition) be revealed, whom
     [The LORD JEHOVAH] shall consume with the spirit of his mouth,
     and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: (2Thess 2:8) (see also Rev.21:2-3)

    Your brother
    in Christ,
    Ed J


    Hi Ed,

    Heb.4:12   For the Word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged Sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and Spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discern the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    Eph.6:17   And take the helmet of salvation, and the Sword OF THE Spirit, which is the Word of God:

    Do you still think the Word of God is the Spirit of God?


    Hi Abe,

    Of course, what has changed?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    what about this is their a difference BETWEEN A AND B ??? if yes or not why ???

    GROUP “A”

    Ge 15:1 After these things THE WORD of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

    1Sa 3:7 Now Samuel did not yet know the LORD, neither was the word of the LORD yet revealed unto him.
    1Sa 3:21 And the LORD appeared again in Shiloh: for the LORD revealed himself to Samuel in Shiloh by THE WORD of the LORD.

    1Ki 6:11 And the word of the LORD came to Solomon, saying,
    1Ki 12:22 But the word of God came unto Shemaiah the man of God, saying,

    AND

    GROUP “B”

    Ex 8:31 And the LORD did according to the word of Moses; and he removed the swarms of flies from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people; there remained not one.

    Nu 22:20 And God came unto Balaam at night, and said unto him, If the men come to call thee, rise up, and go with them; but yet the word which I shall say unto thee, that shalt thou do.

    Dt 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?

    1Sa 3:1 And the child Samuel ministered unto the LORD before Eli. And the word of the LORD was precious in those days; there was no open vision.

    1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

    are the “THE WORD OF THE LORD ” in both groups a and B  mean the same thing ???


    Hi Pierre,

    “The Word” of the LORD is God's HolySpirit and what “HE” says.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    you did not answer my questions ,why ???


    Why what?      …I don't understand your question?


    edj

    :D :D :D :laugh: :D

    #328837
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2013,22:36)
    T,

    Isaiah is telling us how much knowledge of the Lord there will be.  The waters of the sea cover 70% of the earth and their volume is quite a multitude. “So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.”

    None the less I know that in some way Jesus is not one that comes by water alone because it is written “”He did not come by water only”.  I also know that men, with but 2 exceptions, come by water which is also known as “amniotic fluid”.  

    Genesis 1:20 is the first mention of life from water.  It is not the last.

    I also know that death = blood.  The “come” teaches us he was resurrected from the dead.  The Spirit is the one by whom he was resurrected from the dead.

    You may also see other teachings in this passage and as long as they are true and are neither used to deceive or are useless, they come from God.


    K

    Ge 1:20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures,

    Genesis 1:20
    Context
    NET ©
    God said, “Let the water swarm with swarms 1 of living creatures and let birds fly 2 above the earth across the expanse of the sky.”
    NIV ©
    And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky.”
    NASB ©
    Then God said, “Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens.”
    NLT ©
    And God said, “Let the waters swarm with fish and other life. Let the skies be filled with birds of every kind.”
    MSG ©
    God spoke: “Swarm, Ocean, with fish and all sea life! Birds, fly through the sky over Earth!”
    BBE ©
    And God said, Let the waters be full of living things, and let birds be in flight over the earth under the arch of heaven.
    NRSV ©
    And God said, “Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the dome of the sky.”
    NKJV ©
    Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.”

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    Genesis 1:20 is the first mention of life from water.  It is not the last.

    DO YOU SEE HOW YOU INTERPRET FALSELY THE SCRIPTURES ??? AMAZING AND THEN PEOPLE WANDER WHY THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH ,HOW COULD THEY ;

    #329807
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,15:58)
    I'm a 'hyperdimensionalist'!
    Not a 'hyperdispensationalist'?


    EdJ.

    Is the word of God to be trusted?
    Yes; why?
    Because the truth is in it.
    What truth? the spirit of truth.
    What is the spirit of truth? THE HOLY SPIRIT.

    A politicians word has no truth in it,but the spirit of lies.

    wakeup.

    #329809
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
    the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #329823
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 24 2013,20:42)
    Hi Wakeup,

    John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
    the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    If you have the truth in you, by feeding on the flesh of the word,you will be quickened at the coming,not before.

    We are at the moment in the womb of Zion,growing in spirit. When the baby is matured, she will give birth to all of her children at once.

    Every one will grow differently in the womb,some stronger than others. the 144000 are the strongest in spirit. They will come out first.

    wakeup.

    #331421
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,05:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 24 2013,20:42)
    Hi Wakeup,

    John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
    the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    If you have the truth in you, by feeding on the flesh of the word,you will be quickened at the coming,not before.

    We are at the moment in the womb of Zion,growing in spirit. When the baby is matured, she will give birth to all of her children at once.

    Every one will grow differently in the womb,some stronger than others. the 144000 are the strongest in spirit. They will come out first.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Jesus Christ DIED.

    He is BORN from the dead

    A NEW CREATION.

    FIRSTBORN from the dead.

    Peace brother….

    #331431
    terraricca
    Participant

    abe

    Quote
    Jesus Christ DIED.

    He is BORN from the dead

    A NEW CREATION.

    FIRSTBORN from the dead.

    please teach me on this “” A NEW CREATION.””” scriptures says ;Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

    #331596
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,21:12)
    abe

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    Jesus Christ   DIED.

    He is BORN from the dead

     A NEW CREATION.

    FIRSTBORN from the dead.

    please teach me on this “” A NEW CREATION.””” scriptures says ;Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.


    Hi T.,

    2Cor. 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; BEHOLD all things have become new.

    Gal.6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.

    Eph.2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

    Rev.1:5 And from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To him who loved us and washed us from our sins in his own blood.

    1Cor.4:15 For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

    Philemon 10 I appeal to you for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten while in my chains.

    1Pet.1:23 Having been born again ( from above ) not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever,

    Jn.1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, Behold The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! This is he of whom I said, after me comes a man who is preferred before me, for he was before me. I did not know him; but that he should be revealed to Israel, therefore I came baptizing with water. And John bore witness, saying I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and he remained upon him. I did not know him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me Upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining on him, this is the one who baptizes with the Holy Spirit. And I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God
    3:29 HE WHO HAS THE BRIDE IS THE BRIDEGROOM;

    Could you help me, Jn.1:1 The word was God. People have a problem with this verse. It does not say; the word is God. Why is it so difficult??

    Peace brother…..

    #331622
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,15:50)
    Hi Abe,

    Handling “The Word” of God does NOT mean fondling Jesus,
    but rather taking part in the writing of “The Bible;” God's word.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Abe?

    #331627
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,20:30)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,15:50)
    Hi Abe,

    Handling “The Word” of God does NOT mean fondling Jesus,
    but rather taking part in the writing of “The Bible;” God's word.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Abe?


    Hi Ed,

    WHAT???

    #331629
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (abe @ Feb. 06 2013,15:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,20:30)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,15:50)
    Hi Abe,

    Handling “The Word” of God does NOT mean fondling Jesus,
    but rather taking part in the writing of “The Bible;” God's word.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Abe?


    Hi Ed,

    WHAT???


    Hi Abe, (also see my next post)

    Sorry, the point I was trying to make was awkwardly written, which is:

    “The Word” is really the “HolySpirit” rather than Jesus.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331630
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Abe,

              “our hands have (the Apostles) handled, of the Word of life”

    Handling “The Word” of life means taking part in the writing of the Bible, “God's word”.     (<– do you agree?)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331631
    abe
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Did the Holy Spirit descend on the Word?

    Peace brother…

    #331632
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (abe @ Feb. 06 2013,16:09)
    Hi Ed,

    Did the Holy Spirit descend on the Word?

    Peace brother…


    Hi 2Besee,

    No, the “Holy Spirit” is “The Word” that was with God
    and was God; now HE is with us as HE was with Jesus.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331676
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Ed J, I should put you on the Hot Seat regarding how the Word can be the Spirit with regards to that scripture that teaches that the SWORD OF the Spirit is the Word of God.

    Your reasoning indicates that the sword is irrelevant. It should read the Spirit is the Word of God, instead of what it actually says, The sword of the spirit is the word of God.

    I am sure you can see how illogical your statement is when you compare it to that scripture.

    #331686
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 06 2013,20:08)
    Ed J, I should put you on the Hot Seat regarding how the Word can be the Spirit with regards to that scripture that teaches that the SWORD OF the Spirit is the Word of God.

    Your reasoning indicates that the sword is irrelevant. It should read the Spirit is the Word of God, instead of what it actually says, The sword of the spirit is the word of God.

    I am sure you can see how illogical your statement is when you compare it to that scripture.


    Hi T8,

    I have explained this to you many times now; but if you feel
    you must start another thread on this, please feel free to do so. :)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331725
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2013,11:13)

    Quote (abe @ Feb. 06 2013,16:09)
    Hi Ed,

    Did the Holy Spirit descend on the Word?

    Peace brother…


    Hi 2Besee,

    No, the “Holy Spirit” is “The Word” that was with God
    and was God; now HE is with us as HE was with Jesus.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    why would THE WORD be the holy spirit ??? the holy spirit his an active tool that God uses to fulfill his OWN WILL , BUT THE WORD IS DIRECTLY SHOWN TO BE CHRIST ,THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE FATHER ,AND JESUS CHRIST CAN NOT BE WHAT HE RECEIVED OR WHAT HE HIMSELF DISTRIBUTE BECAUSE IT WAS GIVEN TO HIM BY HIS FATHER ,

    SO AGAIN THIS IS YOU BIGGEST MISTAKE OR MISS UNDERSTANDING IN SCRIPTURES YOU HAVE ,

    THIS FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND WHO HIS THE SON OF GOD WOULD IRREMEDIABLY PUT YOU IN NOT RECOGNIZING THAT THE SON OF GOD CAME IN THE FLESH ,BECAUSE YOUR VIEW DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THIS ,

    IF YOU WANT THE SCRIPTURES TO PROVE MY POINT I WILL SHOW THEM.

    :)

    #335891
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

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     “The Word” is really the “HolySpirit” rather than Jesus.

     

    Edj,

    THE WORD IS NOT JUST ONE PARTICULAR SPIRIT!

    BUT THE GOD HEAD, THE TRIUNE GOD IN FLESH!

    THE TRIUNE GOD IN JESUS CHRIST!

    GOD IN FULL POWER IN A PARTICULAR FUNCTION!

    ALL IN HIS SON!

    FROM THE OTHER HAND:

    THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ONE PARTICULAR SPIRIT! OF GOD

    AND THIS PARTICULAR SPIRIT IS THE SOUL WITHIN THE WORD JESUS CHRIST,FOR THE FATHER TO ABIDE WITHIN!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

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