The Word grew and multiplied (Acts 12:24)

[Ed J]

“The Word” of God grew and multiplied.  (Acts 12:24)

What exactly grew:

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2012,15:53)

“The Word” of God grew and multiplied.  (Acts 12:24) What exactly grew: “Jesus”?    The “Holy Spirit”?   The size of “The Bible”? Is it not “The Spirit” (in the believers) that grew and multiplied? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

ED J

As we see today; the bible versions multiplied.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,23:46)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2012,15:53) “The Word” of God grew and multiplied.  (Acts 12:24) What exactly grew: “Jesus”?    The “Holy Spirit”?   The size of “The Bible”? Is it not “The Spirit” (in the believers) that grew and multiplied? God bless Ed J ED J As we see today; the bible versions multiplied. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup, do the many bible versions also triumph?

“So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.”  (Acts 19:20)

Is it not instead “The Spirit” (in the believers) that prevails?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

In this case, the “word of God” is the teachings of God, laid out to us by His Son Jesus.  The word, in this verse, is neither “Jesus” nor “the Holy Spirit”. It is, in this case, no different than any of us referring to the Bible as “the word of God”.

Ed, this seems to be an odd topic for you to start, considering that you believe the Holy Spirit OF God actually IS God Himself.

Surely “God Himself” didn't “multiply”, did He?

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 28 2012,11:02)

In this case, the “word of God” is the teachings of God, laid out to us by His Son Jesus.  The word, in this verse, is neither “Jesus” nor “the Holy Spirit”.  It is, in this case, no different than any of us referring to the Bible as “the word of God”. Ed, this seems to be an odd topic for you to start, considering that you believe the Holy Spirit OF God actually IS God Himself. Surely “God Himself” didn't “multiply”, did He?

Hi Mike,

God himself most certainly did grow and multiply in believers; and he also triumphs in them.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 28 2012,11:02)

In this case, the “word of God” is the teachings of God, laid out to us by His Son Jesus.  The word, in this verse, is neither “Jesus” nor “the Holy Spirit”.  It is, in this case, no different than any of us referring to the Bible as “the word of God”. Ed, this seems to be an odd topic for you to start, considering that you believe the Holy Spirit OF God actually IS God Himself. Surely “God Himself” didn't “multiply”, did He?

Mike B.

If you make a statement on black and white and you have signed it. That makes it your true word,and you are responsible; that it is the truth.

It is on paper,but never the less;it is your word.
Your reputation goes with it.

God has his living word put on paper,signed by his Sons death,and resurrection,to proof to the world that his word is truth,followed by things that has come to pass.
In the past, present, and to come.

The spirit in the words,connect us with the one who wrote it.
Gods word on paper:old testament.(Gods word through the prophets).
Gods words on paper: new testament (God speaking through Jesus).
Gods words on paper: God speaking through the apostles.
Gods word (watered down and twisted)past on to the world.

We need to go to the original, to find Gods true statement.
Jesus is that true word that was made flesh, and we need to eat Gods word,so it becomes spiritually part of us.

wakeup.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

As I said, “the word of God”, in this case, is no different than any of us referring to the Bible as “the word of God”.

And no Ed, God Himself does not grow, nor does He multiply.

[Wakeup]

MikeB.

True;God does nor muliply nor Jesus,but Gods woman does multiply. And her children will be many,and also will be born in the resurrection;born spirit.(born one more time), born again.

Gods woman is his bride. The children are not.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

My point is that the phrase “the word of God” often refers to different things. Sometimes, it refers to a messenger God sent. Sometimes, just to words that God has communicated to us through His messengers. Sometimes, it refers to the very purpose, or will, of God.

In the case of Acts 12:24, it merely refers to the words God has communicated to us via messengers – namely Jesus in this case.

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2012,04:22)

My point is that the phrase “the word of God” often refers to different things.  Sometimes, it refers to a messenger God sent.  Sometimes, just to words that God has communicated to us through His messengers.  Sometimes, it refers to the very purpose, or will, of God. In the case of Acts 12:24, it merely refers to the words God has communicated to us via messengers – namely Jesus in this case.

Mike B.

The mesengers are just passing on the word of God.His messengers also includes the angels.

In revelation1. It is God that gave the message to the now the son of man Jesus,and he pass it on to an angel and the angel pass it on to John,and John pass it on to all the churches.These are the letters to the churches.

But then God gave John personally a vision regarding the opening of the seals,and the rest of revelation.
God showed John personally.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

It wasn't God personally who gave John the rest of his revelation.  God gave him some of it, but Jesus and the angels were still there, giving him other parts of it.

But other than that, I agree with what you've stated in your last post.  But how does that address my point?

Do you agree that sometimes in scripture, “the word of God” simply refers to words of God that we have been given to live by – such as in the case of the written “word of God”, the Bible?

Do you agree that other times, “the word of God” refers to the actual spokesperson who delivers God's words to us?

And do you agree that still other times, “the word of God” refers to the very will, or purpose of God?

What I'm trying to teach is that we can't sensibly give one blanket definition of “the word of God”, and expect that one definition to cover every instance of that phrase in the scriptures.

The phrase is used with different meanings all throughout scripture. Do you and Ed understand this?

[Ed J]

Hi Mike,

The words of God whether written or spoken are spirit, do you agree?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 02 2013,11:31)

It wasn't God personally who gave John the rest of his revelation.  God gave him some of it, but Jesus and the angels were still there, giving him other parts of it. But other than that, I agree with what you've stated in your last post.  But how does that address my point? Do you agree that sometimes in scripture, “the word of God” simply refers to words of God that we have been given to live by – such as in the case of the written “word of God”, the Bible? Do you agree that other times, “the word of God” refers to the actual spokesperson who delivers God's words to us? And do you agree that still other times, “the word of God” refers to the very will, or purpose of God? What I'm trying to teach is that we can't sensibly give one blanket definition of “the word of God”, and expect that one definition to cover every instance of that phrase in the scriptures. The phrase is used with different meanings all throughout scripture.  Do you and Ed understand this?

Mike B.

quote:
Do you agree that sometimes in scripture, “the word of God” simply refers to words of God that we have been given to live by – such as in the case of the written “word of God”, the Bible?

WORDS ARNT SIMPLY WORDS,FOR WORDS CAN HURT SOME ONE,OR PLEASE SOME ONE. WORD HAS POWER IN IT.
WORDS CAN MAKE ONE HAPPY AND LAUGH.
WORDS CAN CAUSE WARS.WORDS CAN BREAK A HEART.

quote:
Do you agree that other times, “the word of God” refers to the actual spokesperson who delivers God's words to us?

THE MESSAGE IS NOT THE MESSENGER.
THE PIZZA IS NOT THE PIZZABOY.

JESUS IS THE WORD IN THE FORM OF THE FLESH.
HE IS THE BREAD HIMSELF COMING TO EARTH TO FEED US WITH HIMSELF,AND HE IS FEEDING OF HIS FATHER.(john 6:54—58).

quote:
And do you agree that still other times, “the word of God” refers to the very will, or purpose of God?

THE WORD OF GOD IS *EVERYTHING* IN WHAT HE STANDS FOR.(his mind).HIS *WILL* EXPRESSED THROUGH HIS WORD.

What I'm trying to teach is that we can't sensibly give one blanket definition of “the word of God”, and expect that one definition to cover every instance of that phrase in the scriptures.

THE WORD OF GOD IS THE WORD OF GOD AND CAN NOT BE ANYTHING ELSE BUT THE WORD OF GOD.

JESUS IS JESUS, AND CAN NOT BE ANYTHING ELSE BUT JESUS.(THE WORD THAT WAS MADE FLESH); FROM SPIRIT TO FLESH; THEN FROM FLESH BACK TO SPIRIT AT *HIS RESURRECTION*:

*BUT;* AS OF THE ROOT OF DAVID. HE WAS MADE *AS* UNTO HIS BRETHREN,FOR WE WILL BE LIKE HIM.
FLESH MADE SPIRIT,*AT OUR RESURRECTION*

Quote:
The phrase is used with different meanings all throughout scripture. Do you and Ed understand this?
unquote:

YOUR WORD CAN NOT BE ANYTHING ELSE BUT YOURS.
YOU CAN PASS IT THROUGH SOMEONE TO SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF,OR PUT IT IN PRINT WITH YOUR NAME ON IT.

WHAT ELSE CAN YOUR WORD BE? IT CAN LOOK LIKE A ROUND DISK, WITTH YOUR WORD IN IT. YOUR WORD CAN COME OUT OF A BOX CALLED A SPEAKER.
YOUR WORD COULD BE ON ADVERTISING BOARDS.

I can see your word in print on the screen right now.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2013,12:30)

WORDS ARNT SIMPLY WORDS……….

That line is simply silly, Wakeup – as is the rest of your post, IMO.  Let's not get all “philosophical” about this, and start imagining that words are “spooky, mysterious things”.

Sometimes words are just words.  And many times in the scripture, that is the case.

And YES, the SPOKESMAN OF YHWH have been called “the word OF YHWH” in scripture.

And YES, sometimes (not ALWAYS), the phrase “the word of God” refers to God's will or purpose.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2013,18:38)

Hi Mike, The words of God whether written or spoken are spirit, do you agree? God bless Ed J

Nope.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 02 2013,06:38)

Hi Mike, The words of God whether written or spoken are spirit, do you agree? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

what are the spirits in words verbal or written ,

like wen the government issue a law ;it would not matter if you pay attention to it or not because that is what will be applied ,right got it .so pay attention to it do not live in ignorance of it .(the law given are the spirit or message right )

if a man hold a gun to you and said give me this or I will shut you ,those words should be important to you if you want to see another day ,right, the spirit (message)is clear

why would it be not the same with Gods word

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 03 2013,07:06)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2013,12:30) WORDS ARNT SIMPLY WORDS………. That line is simply silly, Wakeup – as is the rest of your post, IMO.  Let's not get all “philosophical” about this, and start imagining that words are “spooky, mysterious things”. Sometimes words are just words.  And many times in the scripture, that is the case. And YES, the SPOKESMAN OF YHWH have been called “the word OF YHWH” in scripture. And YES, sometimes (not ALWAYS), the phrase “the word of God” refers to God's will or purpose.

Mike B.

Even if you are just playing around with you friends;you are still using your word.

Gods word does not play around.God is truth.
Every word that comes out of the mouth of God is truth.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2013,16:42)

Every word that comes out of the mouth of God is truth.

Agreed. And God could say, The sky is blue, and those words would be the truth. But it doesn't mean those words are some magical, mysterious, philosophical teaching.

Sometimes, they are just words used to communicate instructions, commands, or whatever.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2013,05:30)

Quote: The phrase is used with different meanings all throughout scripture.  Do you and Ed understand this? unquote: YOUR WORD CAN NOT BE ANYTHING ELSE BUT YOURS. YOU CAN PASS IT THROUGH SOMEONE TO SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF,OR PUT IT IN PRINT WITH YOUR NAME ON IT. WHAT ELSE CAN YOUR WORD BE? IT CAN LOOK LIKE A ROUND DISK, WITTH YOUR WORD IN IT. YOUR WORD CAN COME OUT OF A BOX CALLED A SPEAKER. YOUR WORD COULD BE ON ADVERTISING BOARDS. I can see your word in print on the screen right now. wakeup.

Excellently put Wakeup.

Mike, as this part of Wakeup's post puts it, “The Word”
always means the same though it comes in different forms.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 03 2013,07:07)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2013,18:38) Hi Mike, The words of God whether written or spoken are spirit, do you agree? God bless Ed J Nope.

Hi Mike,

Here lies where we disagree.
I believe God's words are “Spirit”.  (ref. John 6:63)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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