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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 15 2007,19:05) Hi M,
Read Jn 5,
Have you already passed over from death to life?
Yes from death to life back to death If you delebertly break God's law.Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1Jo 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1Jo 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.Are you subject to God's law?
The breaking of God's law is not a issue with God?
me dont agree fully with hebrews 6:4-6 because me believe if you truely repent and turn from your sin that our father will forgive us, for he forgave anyone who truely repented to him even before jesus,this statement could be for the lukewarw for he will spew them out of his mouth,for you cannot serve two masters?god and mamon, me might be wrong, so just dont sin aND YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT!
michaels Sin is not imputed to us. But we can never fully be like God and without sin. There is no way that any Human Being will never sin. John tells us if you think that you are not a sinner the truth in not in you. Read what Paul says in Romans. The whole chapter I feel is important. That doesnt mean that we should not strife to overcome. Yes we have a Mediator and that is Christ and when we Sin, we can go through Jesus Christ to the throne of God and He will forgive us immediately. You also have to remember what Christ said on the Sermon on the Mount. We are under His covenant now and if we are even angry with a Brother we have committed Murder in our Heart etc.
lukewarm Christians are those who confess to be a Christians but never grow in Spirit and in truth. The go to church on Sundays and turn around and lie as soon as they come out of Church. But I will never judge those, I am only showing you what I believe what he meant.
Love and Peace Mrs. IM4TruthDear IM4Truth;
Perfection in the scripture is not the same perfection that we know. Perfection in scripture means to be grown up in the Lord, or to be mature. We always have room to grow, but that does mean that we cannot be mature at the same time. Hence, the perfection we are seeking is not an unconscious perfection.
michaels…..> you are espousing a righteousness that comes by work's of law, no one ever was able to achieve that except Jesus. even Jesus said to the man that called him Good, “why do you call me good, there only one thats good and thats God.
Heres my take on this thing of odedience to the commandments, remember when God said he look for one righteous person and could find none not even one.Therefore he took it on His own arm to bring salvation.
And how did he do that, remember where he said (I) will take out of you the Heart of stone and give you a Heart of flesh, another God takes our hardness out from us and gives us soft loving natures, and what did Paul say (LOVE) fullfills the law.
It's not about the way we keep the commandments and it through a changed New Nature given to us by the Father and that new Nature fullfill all the law. remember when Paul said the gentiles who have not the law, but do the things contained in them show the law written in their hearts by the hand of God. So then Our hevenly Father creates us righteous, it a work only he can do…..peace to you….geneQuote (IM4Truth @ July 18 2007,06:02) There is no way that any Human Being will never sin.
Some say Jesus Christ was merely a “human being” but he didn't sin? HmmmmQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2007,17:00) Hi Not3,
Must mere humans sin?
Oh, yes! At least 20 times a day.
Hi not3,
You make God appear unfair.
And your superman son does not appear in scripture
just an ordinary man
made extraordinary by the anointing of God.Nick, I was giving you a silly answer to a silly question.
Romans 3:23
For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.Mrs.IM4Truth says there is no way any human being could not sin – Jesus was puny human man – he must have sinned?
Nothing in life is fair, Nick.
I dont' see where God promised that everything would be fair in scripture either.Some he makes for noble uses, others for common.
He hardens who he will and shows mercy to whom he will.Fair?
And I've never cared for Superman!
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2007,17:05) Hi not3,
You make God appear unfair.
And your superman son does not appear in scripture
just an ordinary man
made extraordinary by the anointing of God.
Ordinary man? Scripture shows that Jesus was ordinary?Seriously, brother, God seeks out a virgin and his holy Spirit overshadows her – she conceives – and what is born out of her is called the Annointed One, who is Christ the Lord.
Ordinary? Isaiah and WJ make too much of him, and you don't make enough of him.
Hi Not3,
No difference noted in the manger and just a scripture wise 12 yo does not portay a superman in embryo.
Neither does Isaiah.
When are you going to give the glory to God in His anointing of His Son.??Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2007,17:24) Hi Not3,
No difference noted in the manger and just a scripture wise 12 yo does not portay a superman in embryo.
Neither does Isaiah.
When are you going to give the glory to God in His anointing of His Son.??
Which gives God more glory:1. Admitting that God annointed a common, puny man to a mission?
2. Recognizing that God Almighty has a Son who was born according to the plan outlined in the gospels?
One seems to be a worker over the house, while the other is a son (Moses versus Jesus).
One seems to be the helping hand, while the other is from God's very body (Remember Abraham?).
Hi not3,
The mistake of trinitarians is to ascribe to the Son
qualities and knowledge and powers
that come from God Himself.
God deserves the glory.
He did it all through Christ.all have sined and if me said me had not then me a liar,for we are all born into sin,but all can turn from sin and overcome,jesus dident only say repent,he also said, sin no more,why would he bother to give empy words,for he only spoke the truth,the truth is not a lie,like the one me hear ,many times,from many of this kingdom,who say well its imposibal why even try you cant keep his commandments and live sin free,you make gods words of not, for the teachings of man to ichy ears,jesus dident sin.yet he took all our sin opon himself,if he had he would not be a wothy sacrifice,he said follow me,not to sin,for obeedeance is better than sacrifice,so if you would just turn from sin jesus woud be happy with you and you might get to know him,so if you were obedeant you would not need a middle man ,you could just go right to god ,yey they dident want god at the mount when he came down they wanted moses and broke his heart,and even now no one wants god not even one,works have nothing in common with gods perfect law,for his law is not greveios ,but like honey,sweet rest to me,to the world works,yet there is no work in it,your works are your good deeds,sacrifice,tithes,all god wants is obedeance,mathew 7:22-23 prophesied in thy name,cast out devils, done many wonderful works,depart from me you who work iniquity
the word in john 1:1 as god gave it to me years ago,thank you father for bringing it back to rememberance.the word is gods name ,for in the begining was his name,and his name was with him,and his name was him,this is what john emfisizes more than any thing in his wrightings, before abraham was I AM!god is in his name,.the word was made flesh,the name of god is in the name of yahshua,yahshua was flesh,and if you read john jesus never stops proclaiming the word ,gods glorious name,jesus then must also be the word ,does that make jesus god and if it does then why diddent he do things my way,he could have just taken over,and done his will, well me guess he did do our fathers will, but then why would he cry out to the father as if they were seperate,if they are one,what about the scripture if they diddent praise him even the very rocks would praise him,is he not worthy of our praise,for we praise our dogs,when they do a trick roll over ,sit.and even each other,saying good boy,ect…there is none good but the father ! god showed us jesus in a vision and he grew in gods womb gloriously filling the hole sky,and there were spikes of light liike a crown of glory flowing out from around his head,it started to sprinkle so we had stoped praiseing god and jumped in the car to stay dry,then we heard the most beautiful melowdy of praise it just cut strait to the heart,and we looked at each other and said do you hear that ,where is it comeing from,it was the earth or rocks praiseing god,so we looked at each other and said if you will not praise me even the very rocks will ! so we jumped out of the car and began him praiseing again we jumped on our nees dident mind the puddles any more,the almighty was there ! the sprinkles me think had stoped some time wile we were in the car because me dont remember getting anything but my nees wet,praise god the father,and jesus his son,for it was no small feat to give his life that we may have life,and now me believe he is one with the father,for jesus originaly showed me the father,the father in return showed me the son,got to go ,may jesus show you the father. by praiseing jesus you are praiseing the father for gods name is in the name of yahshua.so god has sent his spirit and his name/word,before us,that we would praise him and glorify his name.
God is called The Mighty God.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Yes! Jesus is The Mighty God
Quote (Cult Buster @ July 30 2007,06:52) God is called The Mighty God. Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Yes! Jesus is The Mighty God
But still not the Almighty God
.Rev 21:22 I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
Notice the separation of Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb! It did not say the Lord God the Almighty is the Lamb…
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