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I agree there will be a thousand year absence from Satan and his meddling. During that thousand years, there will be people living on earth. Will they be having children?
After that thousand year period, Satan will be released, and will deceive as many of those humans living on earth as he can. How long he is given to do this is not specified.
But at the end of the allotted time, Satan and those who joined with him will be destroyed for good.
And after that will be the resurrection of those who were not a part of the first resurrection. Will any of those from the second resurrection live again as human beings on earth? Will EVERYBODY be a spirit being after resurrected?
I agree with you that Paul addressed all his letters to the elect in Christ. So when Paul spoke about being resurrected with a new heavenly spiritual body, he was speaking about what would happen to the elect who are chosen to live and rule with Christ in heaven.
What about the meek who will inherit the new earth? Will they have flesh bodies, or spiritual bodies?
I believe they will be human beings, and will marry and have offspring – but I don't know for sure. I know I've read some things in the OT prophesies that make me think this way, but I can't place my finger on them right now.
Hi MB,
Mt 25
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Hi MB,
Meek is just another term for the righteous
1.Psalm 37:11
But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.2.Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.Mike B.
It is good that you can see that, and have accepted.
Which many dont have that insight.That alone is great knowledge.Quote
I agree there will be a thousand year absence from Satan and his meddling. During that thousand years, there will be people living on earth. Will they be having children?THE JEWS IN THE KINGDOM WILL BE AS THE SAND OF THE SEA. THE GENTILES OUTSIDE WILL BE MANY.SATAN IS IN PRISON, BUT HIS ANGELS ARE FREE TO TEMPT THEM OUTSIDE.
THEY CAN NOT ENTER IN NOR FLY OVER.(NO FLY ZONE).Quote
After that thousand year period, Satan will be released, and will deceive as many of those humans living on earth as he can. How long he is given to do this is not specified.THE KINGDOM WILL BE FOR A SEASON AND TIME.
A THOUSAND YEARS PLUS A TIME.Quote
But at the end of the allotted time, Satan and those who joined with him will be destroyed for good.SATAN AND HIS ANGELS WILL GO TO THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH TO GATHER THEM WHO DONT BELIEVE THE TEACHINGS. HE WILL GATHER THEM AROUND THE KINGDOM. THEY ALL WILL BE BURIED IN A PLACE CALLED
HAMONGOG. THE FIRE WILL COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN FROM GOD HIMSELF.
EZ.38. 39.Quote
And after that will be the resurrection of those who were not a part of the first resurrection. Will any of those from the second resurrection live again as human beings on earth? Will EVERYBODY be a spirit being after resurrected?THE SECOND RESURRECTION WILL CONSIST OF ALL PEOPLE OF ALL KINDS THAT HAVE EVER LIVED. JUDGED BY THE BOOKS. BY WHAT SORT OF A PERSON THEY WERE IN THEIR LIFETIME. THEN CHANGED INTO SPIRIT. GOD'S CHILDREN WILL BE ALL SPIRIT WHEN HE IS FINISHED.
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I agree with you that Paul addressed all his letters to the elect in Christ. So when Paul spoke about being resurrected with a new heavenly spiritual body, he was speaking about what would happen to the elect who are chosen to live and rule with Christ in heaven.ALL THE RESURRECTED IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION HAVE INHERITED ALL THINGS. HEAVEN AND EARTH. BUT THEY WILL BE IN CHARGE ON EARTH,CHRIST IN HIS THRONE ON EARTH.ALL WILL ONLY GO TO HEAVEN WHEN THE EARTH IS MELTED.THEN COME BACK DOWN ON THE NEW EARTH;AND GOD ALSO WILL COME DOWN.AL WILL DEAL WITH HIM FACE TO FACE.
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What about the meek who will inherit the new earth? Will they have flesh bodies, or spiritual bodies?NOT FLESH BODIES ANYMORE. THEY WILL BE AS THE ANGELS,RULING THE JEWS WITH CHRIST.
THE JEWS WILL BE TAUGHT CHRIST.THE MEEK CONSISTS OF ALL; AFTER THE SECOND RESURRECTION; WILL INHERIT THE NEW EARTH.
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I believe they will be human beings, and will marry and have offspring – but I don't know for sure. I know I've read some things in the OT prophesies that make me think this way, but I can't place my finger on them right now.THE THOUSAND YEAR KINGDOM WILL ONLY CONSIST OF ALL THE JEWS CHOSEN BY CHOICE.*OF ALL GENERATIONS*.
THEY WILL BE FLESH,BUILD HOUSES PLANT VINEYARDS
NO TEARS,NO PAIN,NO SORROWS,NO WARS.
THE LION WILL EAT STRAW,CHILDREN WILL PLAY WITH THE ANIMALS.THEY WILL MULTIPLY. AND TAUGHT CHRIST.SWORDS TURNED INTO PLOUGHSHARES;SPEARS TURNED INTO PUNNING HOOKS.THEY WILL LIVE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD AND DIE. THIS IS PARADISE REVISITED.
THEY WILL BE THE SHEEP IN THE SECOND RESURRECTION.
AND MANY GENTILES ALSO.THE GOOD HEARTED GENTILES
THAT WAS NOT SELFISH,BUT ALWAYS READY TO HELP OTHERS. INCLUDED; THE GENTILES THAT HAVE BEEN CONVERTED DURING THE THOUSAND YEARS.GOD IS A LOVING GOD.HIS JUDGEMENT IS RIGHTEOUS.
You are willing to ask questions without feeling less than your brothers is a great plus.
wakeup.
Hi MB,
1.Matthew 25:34
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:2.1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,3.1 Corinthians 6:10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.4.1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.5.Galatians 5:21
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.6.Ephesians 5:5
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.It seems the SHEEP gain the same inheritance as the saints
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2014,15:16) 1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Revelation 22
14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
This verse makes it seem like there will be others still alive, but not allowed to enter the new Jerusalem.
Thanks to you and Wakeup for your thoughts and scriptures. I still have some thinking to do about these things.
As I currently understand it, Jesus will return and take a certain amount of those currently living with him. They will meet him in the air, and be changed in the twinkling of an eye. I don't believe he will take any who are dead at that time, for I believe those who died for the sake of Jesus and the word of God are instantly raised to heaven – and are the souls under the alter in Revelation. The combination of these two groups of people will rule with Jesus in heaven for the 1000 years Satan is locked away.
But during that 1000 years, there will still be human beings living on earth (those who didn't receive the mark of the beast). It will be the descendants of those human beings that Satan will try to deceive and muster after he is let loose for a while.
After Satan is completely defeated, those who are currently still alive on earth (those who refused to join Satan's army) will remain on earth as human beings – taking and giving wives and procreating.
Living along with these ones on earth will be those of the second resurrection – the ones who were judged favorably of course – and they too will take wives and bear children.
Like I said, I have a lot more thinking to do on this – and will pay special attention to these future prophesies as I work my way through the NET Bible translation I'm currently reading.
My understanding is tentative, so if there are things wrong with what I've written, please point them out to me.
Hi MB,
Those outside the walls of the spiritual Jerusalem are the goats, in the lake of fire.
The sheep are in new bodies as to the angels and further enlargement of the kingdom is not possible.It is the end of flesh and is eternal life and joy
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 11 2014,10:34) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2014,15:16) 1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Revelation 22
14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
This verse makes it seem like there will be others still alive, but not allowed to enter the new Jerusalem.
Thanks to you and Wakeup for your thoughts and scriptures. I still have some thinking to do about these things.
As I currently understand it, Jesus will return and take a certain amount of those currently living with him. They will meet him in the air, and be changed in the twinkling of an eye. I don't believe he will take any who are dead at that time, for I believe those who died for the sake of Jesus and the word of God are instantly raised to heaven – and are the souls under the alter in Revelation. The combination of these two groups of people will rule with Jesus in heaven for the 1000 years Satan is locked away.
But during that 1000 years, there will still be human beings living on earth (those who didn't receive the mark of the beast). It will be the descendants of those human beings that Satan will try to deceive and muster after he is let loose for a while.
After Satan is completely defeated, those who are currently still alive on earth (those who refused to join Satan's army) will remain on earth as human beings – taking and giving wives and procreating.
Living along with these ones on earth will be those of the second resurrection – the ones who were judged favorably of course – and they too will take wives and bear children.
Like I said, I have a lot more thinking to do on this – and will pay special attention to these future prophesies as I work my way through the NET Bible translation I'm currently reading.
My understanding is tentative, so if there are things wrong with what I've written, please point them out to me.
MikeB.Good;so far without scoldings.
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are **in the graves** shall hear his voice,
John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when **the dead** shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, **and the dead shall be raised** incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
The dead in Christ will be first,then the living.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:
***and the dead in Christ shall rise first***:wakeup.
Hi,
two resurrectionsthe first
John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when **the dead** shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
the second
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are **in the graves** shall hear his voice,Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2014,12:33) Hi,
two resurrectionsthe first
John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when **the dead** shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
the second
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are **in the graves** shall hear his voice,
Nick.I have posted john5:25 to Mike, but should not have.
Because John was speaking of the living dead.
(Jesus said once; let the dead bury their dead).Mike disregard John5:25,I should not have quoted.
wakeup.
Hi ,
Jn 5.25 speaks of those who sleep but hear the voice of the Son-they have eternal life.Jn5.28 speaks of ALL who remain in the graves after the 1000 yr reign
Hi,
Jn 10
To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.Hi ,
Jn 10
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2014,12:42) Hi ,
Jn 5.25 speaks of those who sleep but hear the voice of the Son-they have eternal life.Jn5.28 speaks of ALL who remain in the graves after the 1000 yr reign
Nick.No:
The spiritually dead that will hear the voice shall live.
There are many many living dead today,but some will come
and hear the voice of the shepherd,and live.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2014,12:57) Hi WU,
Death is the end of opportunity to respond to the call to salvation
Nick.Let the dead stay that way.
wakeup.
Hi,
11.John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.The Word sowed the word
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2014,19:42) Hi ,
Jn 5.25 speaks of those who sleep but hear the voice of the Son-they have eternal life.Jn5.28 speaks of ALL who remain in the graves after the 1000 yr reign
That makes sense, Nick.But will the ones in verse 28 also be raised as spirit beings to dwell in heaven with Jesus and the “elect” ones?
If so, what does being “elect” mean – if all receive the same reward?
Also, if so, who then will inherit the EARTH? Because what need would spirit beings have for a natural earth?
(I'm not arguing, but seriously asking for suggestions and guidance.)
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