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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2014,19:16) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2014,06:50) Pierre, It seems to me that the scripture Kerwin gave you supported the claim Kerwin made.
You should tell him, “Thank you”, IMO.
He made a claim, and then, when asked for scriptural support for that claim, readily gave said support.
That is exactly how these scriptural discussions should be done, right?
You right ,thanks kerwin
T,You are welcome.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2014,06:50) Pierre, It seems to me that the scripture Kerwin gave you supported the claim Kerwin made.
You should tell him, “Thank you”, IMO.
He made a claim, and then, when asked for scriptural support for that claim, readily gave said support.
That is exactly how these scriptural discussions should be done, right?
Mike,Thank you. A good practice for us all to put in action.
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2014,06:23) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,12:07) T, I was thinking you were speaking Paul having the Spirit. Your correction is welcome. Galatians 2:2 is your answer.
kGal 2:1 Fourteen years later I went up again to Jerusalem, this time with Barnabas. I took Titus along also.
Gal 2:2 I went in response to a revelation and set before them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. But I did this privately to those who seemed to be leaders, for fear that I was running or had run my race in vain.this scriptures show who was guiding Paul would you not say that
T,His actions were the fruit of the Spirit.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 29 2014,04:08) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2014,06:23) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,12:07) T, I was thinking you were speaking Paul having the Spirit. Your correction is welcome. Galatians 2:2 is your answer.
kGal 2:1 Fourteen years later I went up again to Jerusalem, this time with Barnabas. I took Titus along also.
Gal 2:2 I went in response to a revelation and set before them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. But I did this privately to those who seemed to be leaders, for fear that I was running or had run my race in vain.this scriptures show who was guiding Paul would you not say that
T,His actions were the fruit of the Spirit.
kTHEIR IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2014,01:08) T, Not that I know of.
Kerwin.The Holy spirit is the Holy spirit.
The fruit of the spirit is:
love; compassion; God fearing,not touching the unclean thing. etc,etc.wakeup.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 29 2014,20:08) T, Not that I know of.
kto holy spirit is of God and does God's will
the fruits of the spirit are the actions that occur when we sinners change our ways into live according to God's will ,
so it is a bye product of God's holy spirit (so to speak) deeds that pleases God,it is understood that all good things originate from the beginning from God ,because God did not create anything bad and his spirit did not teach any unrighteousness either
but men men did ;and now are invited back to join God holiness '
just as the tree is not the fruit he bares so God is not men ,and so God's holy spirit is not men spirit ,but men can gain from the holy spirit of God
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 28 2014,05:37) MikeB. Do you now believe that the Word of God is alive?
wakeup.
Yes.Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 28 2014,16:04) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2014,06:16) Why then, can't “he BECAME flesh” also refer to a TOTAL and COMPLETE transformation of the body of the Word………. from “spirit” to “flesh”?
Mike,……I am agreeing with you that it is a possible use of became(was made).
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 28 2014,16:06) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2014,06:50) He made a claim, and then, when asked for scriptural support for that claim, readily gave said support. That is exactly how these scriptural discussions should be done, right?
Mike,Thank you. A good practice for us all to put in action.
Agreed.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 30 2014,03:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 28 2014,05:37) MikeB. Do you now believe that the Word of God is alive?
wakeup.
Yes.
MikeB.That is a good start.
Do you believe that He was alive,
when he created all things?wakeup.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 30 2014,09:34) I believe he was alive when his and our God Jehovah created all things THROUGH him.
Mike b.Was God's Word not alive before creation?
Was He not alive on earth?wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2014,18:05) Hi MB,
Is the Spirit ever not alive?
No Nick,The Spirit is always alive.
But, since we are asking silly questions that have no bearing on the actual discussion….. Nick, does the air we breath come from God?
Hi WU,
So the living and creative Spirit of God was instilled in the man Jesus and transformed him into the Christ.
Jesus was never another godQuote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2014,09:54) Mike b. 1. Was God's Word not alive before creation?
2. Was He not alive on earth?
Don't confuse the literal words of God with God's spokesman, who has as one of his many titles: “The Word of God”.For example, when it is said that the word of God came to Isaiah…… it is speaking about commands, prophesies, or instructions that God literally spoke.
When it says the rider of the white horse is named “The Word of God”, it is NOT speaking about literal words God spoke, but about a PERSON who has “The Word of God” as one of his titles. That PERSON is Jesus Christ……. and Jesus Christ was NEVER “God Himself”, nor was he ever a literal word that God spoke out of His mouth.
So the answer to #1 is: No, the spokesman of God known as “The Word of God” was NOT alive before his and our God Jehovah created him as the first of His works. This particular “Word of God” was the first thing God ever created. He was the firstborn of every creature, and the beginning of the creation by God. Before that time, he was non-existent.
2. Yes, God's spokesman, The Word of God, was indeed very alive when he dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son.
Hi MB,
I am sure God wants us to focus on His work done through this man.Acts 10
36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2014,07:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2014,09:54) Mike b. 1. Was God's Word not alive before creation?
2. Was He not alive on earth?
Don't confuse the literal words of God with God's spokesman, who has as one of his many titles: “The Word of God”.For example, when it is said that the word of God came to Isaiah…… it is speaking about commands, prophesies, or instructions that God literally spoke.
When it says the rider of the white horse is named “The Word of God”, it is NOT speaking about literal words God spoke, but about a PERSON who has “The Word of God” as one of his titles. That PERSON is Jesus Christ……. and Jesus Christ was NEVER “God Himself”, nor was he ever a literal word that God spoke out of His mouth.
So the answer to #1 is: No, the spokesman of God known as “The Word of God” was NOT alive before his and our God Jehovah created him as the first of His works. This particular “Word of God” was the first thing God ever created. He was the firstborn of every creature, and the beginning of the creation by God. Before that time, he was non-existent.
2. Yes, God's spokesman, The Word of God, was indeed very alive when he dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son.
Mike B.Do you have scriptures to back you up.
Saying that God's spokesman was created by God before the beginning?ALL things were made by the Word. ALL THINGS.
You are saying except the spokesman.wakeup.
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