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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,09:20) Hi CO,
You apologised once before for your attitude.
I believe I have obeyed the requirements of God and carry my cross daily.
Nick
You're absolutely right, I at times, do get carried away and say things that I shouldn't have, I'm not pefect.
But you on the other hand, obeying the requirements of God and carrying your cross daily, are a man to behold. What a role model. We should all bow down to you. A perfect soldier. I'd love to hear more about your humble obedience.Blessings.
Chosenone …..I agree with you about Adam, God's Spirit is evident, he is a good role model for all of us. He has Salt yet he is kind.
I and you are some time like old lions, don't like to be disturbed, I know I am at times, and some like Nick really rubs a nerve at times.
Hi Gene and Adam, love to converse with you both. You're not judgemental, and hope I am as well. But we all get our backs up at times, even though we're sorry after. I'm sure we will all have some differences of opinion, but its not worth quibleing about.
God Bless, Jerry.
Hi brother Jerry,
Certainly you are not judgmental with anybody, but we should have more patience in answering certain provoked questions. I like the way Mandy takes the role of moderator to give warning signals to brothers who are impatient.
Please share more wonderful things that God has kept in you.
Blessings
AdamHi,
So the value of the sacrifice to God was sufficient for all men to be saved.
But God did not exclude us from responsibilities in that regard.
The price is paid for all to attend the wedding feast.As Jesus first shared the universal message with the chosen people:
Mt22
2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,3And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
Nick, you say:
“So the value of the sacrifice to God was sufficient for all men to be saved.”Yes, you finally have the right answer.
Blessings.
Hi,
The ransom sacrifice was sufficient for all.
1 Timothy 2:6
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.Many respond but not all.
Mark 10:45
For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.Matthew 20:28
Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.As always God keeps a remnant
Romans 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.Nick.
the first and fourth scripture apply to us, the second and third verse was to the Jews only, still under the “Old Covanent” and the “Law”. Not for us today.Blessings.
Nick…according to your theology how could God Keep any one they must keep themselves. Now you saying God alway Keeps a remnant, make up your mind Does God keep them or do they Keep God by there own wills and obedience . So it by the (election of Grace) then, now that's the way we see it. But don't seam to see it that way do you you believe it up the the person to save themselves by their own right choices.
Your contradicting yourself again. You cant have it both way Nick.
Hi GB,
So some are saved by the election of grace?
What of those who are not in the elect?If all were in the elect then the word has no meaning.
Nick….If you believe that God is no respecter of persons as it says he is, then you would understand, the ones who are not now the elect, will later be at the second resurrection, their mind will be opened and they will repent and be saved YET AS BY FIRE, God has blinded them for now Just as it says, It even says the whole house of Israel shall be saved. God is not willing that any parish, and if thats not his will then thats what will be done, “for God works all things after the council of His own Will”. The Elect are bing dealt with now, the rest later, Nick all are going to be saved ultimately. That God will and it will be done.
Hi GB,
Where is it written that the men will repent after the second resurrection and find salvation?
No not so-man dies and then the judgement.
You speak of true Israel?Nick..it say all the house of Israel shall be saved, And if God was not going to save Man kind then why would there be a second resurrection then . So he can through them all into a literal burning HelL fire and watch His creation burn and scream out into all eternity.
You deliberately neglect all the scripture that shows God will have mercy on All and if He can save retches like us , do you think He is to weak to save everyone, He says the (whole) creation shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption, You either believe or not that you privilege. I choose to believe what he Said as written in scriptures.
nick…there are both a physical Israel who will not continue to abide in unbelief when he removes the blindness he put on the and there is the Spiritual Israel which God has already removed there blindness and given them His spirit.
But BOTH SHALL BE SAVED. AS IT SAYS ALL OF ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED.
who are you to decide which Israel it is ? You are not the determiner of who God will have Mercy on. “God is not willing that any Parish, but that all come to repentance. and again i will take out of them the stony heart and give them a heart of Flesh. Was he not talking to Israel in the old testament and when it say that the gentiles who have not the law but do the things contained in them show the law of God written on the Hearts by God . where do you see in scripture God's mercy will not ultimately extend to all.
Produce you scriptures that show what you say then.
Hi GB,
So lets say even if you are right and all Israel will be saved [Ez37?]
where does that leave the unsaved gentiles, those who do not have the law written in their hearts??Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2008,06:07) nick…there are both a physical Israel who will not continue to abide in unbelief when he removes the blindness he put on the and there is the Spiritual Israel which God has already removed there blindness and given them His spirit. But BOTH SHALL BE SAVED. AS IT SAYS ALL OF ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED.
who are you to decide which Israel it is ? You are not the determiner of who God will have Mercy on. “God is not willing that any Parish, but that all come to repentance. and again i will take out of them the stony heart and give them a heart of Flesh. Was he not talking to Israel in the old testament and when it say that the gentiles who have not the law but do the things contained in them show the law of God written on the Hearts by God . where do you see in scripture God's mercy will not ultimately extend to all.
Produce you scriptures that show what you say then.
This is an excellent post.
Blessings
AdamHi GB,
It is not possible for anyone to prove what is not written.
The eternal salvation of all remains a false hope as it is not written
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