The Urantia Book

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    Ed J
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    Hi Colter,

    Where is the evidence of this assertion?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Because the book of revelation is false prophecy; it does not bear the fruit of Jesus. The apocalyptic God of sadistic torture does NOT resemble the indescribably beautiful God revealed in the life of Christ. The fruits of the BOR is death, destruction, torture and nonsense.

    ……and it doesn't reveal anything coherent.

    Colter


    Hi Colter,

    Because you do not like
    what it says is your evidence?
    That is no evidence at all whatsoever?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Not at all, Jesus tells me to be aware of false prophets, he taught that we will know false prophecy by it's fruits.

    The Book of Revelation was the last and most controversial book to be added to the cannon. It does not reflect the character and love of the God revealed by Jesus.

    I realise that your religion doesn't allow you to think critically, I can.

    Colter


    Hi Colter,

    It reflects an understanding of who the enemy is, something
    you seem to overlook; instead pointing in the wrong direction.

    What religion?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    The Jehovah’s Witness religion.

    Colter


    Huh?

    #296269
    Spock
    Participant

    Adam and Eve Summary
    [Updated 10/3/09]

    For the most part, The Urantia Book’s story about Adam and Eve differs considerably from the one found in the Old Testament. However, both accounts have three things in common: 1) a specific couple, living a long time ago in the Mesopotamia region, had a significant impact on humanity, 2) this couple behaved in a way that caused a big problem, and 3) the behavior problem precipitated the need to leave their original location.

    According to The Urantia Book, which was published in 1955, the first human beings (roughly corresponding to Homo erectus) evolved about 1,000,000 years ago. It also recounts that almost 38,000 years ago Adam and Eve introduced some genetic upgrades into our gene pool, which enhanced brain function and resistance to disease (roughly corresponding with Homo sapiens sapiens). The authors extensively recount the development of the civilization that Adam and Eve started and how their descendants migrated around the world and mixed with other races. The Urantia Book provides specific information regarding time periods, places, degree of admixture with other races, and the impact on language and other aspects of culture.

    Starting in 2004 numerous reports started to be published relating to portions of the Y chromosome and the Microcephalin gene. The Microcephalin gene play a critical role in the growth of the brain. The research results closely correlate with what The Urantia Book says about the spread of the genetic and cultural contributions of Adam and Eve. The research into Microcephalin indicates that new genetic material was introduced into the Microcephalin gene about 37,000 years ago and that the rest of the Microcephalin gene was approximately 990,000 years old. None of the obvious explanations for how new material might have been introduced fit well with the results of the research. It then spread into most of the human population quite rapidly, excepting sub-Saharan Africa. Similarly, Y chromosome related studies also document how some types of mutations or other changes occurred around 40,000 years ago, originating in the Mesopotamia region, and spreading quickly into most of humanity, excepting sub-Saharan Africa.

    Follow up research comparing the spread of the introduction of new addition to the Microcephalin gene with the use of nontonal languages also showed a strong positive correlation. These correlations also track well with the migrations of Adam and Eve’s descendants. Bruce Lahn, from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at the University of Chicago and the lead researcher responsible for the studies on the Microcephalin gene, is no longer working in this area, having become discouraged because the research results and their interpretation further enflamed what is already such a controversial issue. See the Eugenics, Race, and The Urantia Book paper for a comprehensive review of The Urantia Book’s statements on this subject. Support for The Urantia Book’s story about Adam and Eve is also documented in the Garden of Eden Report and the Gobekli Tepe Report.

    Adam and Eve

    Colter

    #296271
    Spock
    Participant

    . CALIGASTIA'S PLOT

    75:2.1 Caligastia paid frequent visits to the Garden and held many conferences with Adam and Eve, but they were adamant to all his suggestions of compromise and short-cut adventures. They had before them enough of the results of rebellion to produce effective immunity against all such insinuating proposals. Even the young offspring of Adam were uninfluenced by the overtures of Daligastia. And of course neither Caligastia nor his associate had power to influence any individual against his will, much less to persuade the children of Adam to do wrong.

    75:2.2 It must be remembered that Caligastia was still the titular Planetary Prince of Urantia, a misguided but nevertheless high Son of the local universe. He was not finally deposed until the times of Christ Michael on Urantia.

    75:2.3 But the fallen Prince was persistent and determined. He soon gave up working on Adam and decided to try a wily flank attack on Eve. The evil one concluded that the only hope for success lay in the adroit employment of suitable persons belonging to the upper strata of the Nodite group, the descendants of his onetime corporeal-staff associates. And the plans were accordingly laid for entrapping the mother of the violet race.

    75:2.4 It was farthest from Eve's intention ever to do anything which would militate against Adam's plans or jeopardize their planetary trust. Knowing the tendency of woman to look upon immediate results rather than to plan farsightedly for more remote effects, the Melchizedeks, before departing, had especially enjoined Eve as to the peculiar dangers besetting their isolated position on the planet and had in particular warned her never to stray from the side of her mate, that is, to attempt no personal or secret methods of furthering their mutual undertakings. Eve had most scrupulously carried out these instructions for more than one hundred years, and it did not occur to her that any danger would attach to the increasingly private and confidential visits she was enjoying with a certain Nodite leader named Serapatatia. The whole affair developed so gradually and naturally that she was taken unawares.

    75:2.5 The Garden dwellers had been in contact with the Nodites since the early days of Eden. From these mixed descendants of the defaulting members of Caligastia's staff they had received much valuable help and co-operation, and through them the Edenic regime was now to meet its complete undoing and final overthrow.

    3. THE TEMPTATION OF EVE

    75:3.1 Adam had just finished his first one hundred years on earth when Serapatatia, upon the death of his father, came to the leadership of the western or Syrian confederation of the Nodite tribes. Serapatatia was a brown-tinted man, a brilliant descendant of the onetime chief of the Dalamatia commission on health mated with one of the master female minds of the blue race of those distant days. All down through the ages this line had held authority and wielded a great influence among the western Nodite tribes.

    75:3.2 Serapatatia had made several visits to the Garden and had become deeply impressed with the righteousness of Adam's cause. And shortly after assuming the leadership of the Syrian Nodites, he announced his intention of establishing an affiliation with the work of Adam and Eve in the Garden. The majority of his people joined him in this program, and Adam was cheered by the news that the most powerful and the most intelligent of all the neighboring tribes had swung over almost bodily to the support of the program for world improvement; it was decidedly heartening. And shortly after this great event, Serapatatia and his new staff were entertained by Adam and Eve in their own home.

    75:3.3 Serapatatia became one of the most able and efficient of all of Adam's lieutenants. He was entirely honest and thoroughly sincere in all of his activities; he was never conscious, even later on, that he was being used as a circumstantial tool of the wily Caligastia.

    75:3.4 Presently, Serapatatia became the associate chairman of the Edenic commission on tribal relations, and many plans were laid for the more vigorous prosecution of the work of winning the remote tribes to the cause of the Garden.

    75:3.5 He held many conferences with Adam and Eve—especially with Eve—and they talked over many plans for improving their methods. One day, during a talk with Eve, it occurred to Serapatatia that it would be very helpful if, while awaiting the recruiting of large numbers of the violet race, something could be done in the meantime immediately to advance the needy waiting tribes. Serapatatia contended that, if the Nodites, as the most progressive and co-operative race, could have a leader born to them of part origin in the violet stock, it would constitute a powerful tie binding these peoples more closely to the Garden. And all of this was soberly and honestly considered to be for the good of the world since this child, to be reared and educated in the Garden, would exert a great influence for good over his father's people.

    75:3.6 It should again be emphasized that Serapatatia was altogether honest and wholly sincere in all that he proposed. He never once suspected that he was playing into the hands of Caligastia and Daligastia. Serapatatia was entirely loyal to the plan of building up a strong reserve of the violet race before attempting the world-wide upstepping of the confused peoples of Urantia. But this would require hundreds of years to consummate, and he was impatient; he wanted to see some immediate results—something in his own lifetime. He made it clear to Eve that Adam was oftentimes discouraged by the little that had been accomplished toward uplifting the world.

    75:3.7 For more than five years these plans were secretly matured. At last they had developed to the point where Eve consented to have a secret conference with Cano, the most brilliant mind and active leader of the near-by colony of friendly Nodites. Cano was very sympathetic with the Adamic regime; in fact, he was the sincere spiritual leader of those neighboring Nodites who favored friendly relations with the Garden.

    75:3.8 The fateful meeting occurred during the twilight hours of the autumn evening, not far from the home of Adam. Eve had never before met the beautiful and enthusiastic Cano—and he was a magnificent specimen of the survival of the superior physique and outstanding intellect of his remote progenitors of the Prince's staff. And Cano also thoroughly believed in the righteousness of the Serapatatia project. (Outside of the Garden, multiple mating was a common practice.)

    75:3.9 Influenced by flattery, enthusiasm, and great personal persuasion, Eve then and there consented to embark upon the much-discussed enterprise, to add her own little scheme of world saving to the larger and more far-reaching divine plan. Before she quite realized what was transpiring, the fatal step had been taken. It was done.

    Colter

    #296297
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 02 2012,05:59)

    Quote (Colter @ May 02 2012,05:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 02 2012,05:21)

    Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,21:13)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2012,11:41)

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    Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2012,09:22)
    Hi Colter,

    Where is the evidence of this assertion?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Because the book of revelation is false prophecy; it does not bear the fruit of Jesus. The apocalyptic God of sadistic torture does NOT resemble the indescribably beautiful God revealed in the life of Christ. The fruits of the BOR is death, destruction, torture and nonsense.

    ……and it doesn't reveal anything coherent.

    Colter


    Hi Colter,

    Because you do not like
    what it says is your evidence?
    That is no evidence at all whatsoever?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Not at all, Jesus tells me to be aware of false prophets, he taught that we will know false prophecy by it's fruits.

    The Book of Revelation was the last and most controversial book to be added to the cannon. It does not reflect the character and love of the God revealed by Jesus.

    I realise that your religion doesn't allow you to think critically, I can.

    Colter


    Hi Colter,

    It reflects an understanding of who the enemy is, something
    you seem to overlook; instead pointing in the wrong direction.

    What religion?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    The Jehovah’s Witness religion.

    Colter


    Huh?


    Hi Colter,

    Do you admit your mistake?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296364
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 04 2012,08:30)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 02 2012,05:59)

    Quote (Colter @ May 02 2012,05:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 02 2012,05:21)

    Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,21:13)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2012,11:41)

    Quote (Colter @ May 01 2012,11:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2012,09:22)
    Hi Colter,

    Where is the evidence of this assertion?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Because the book of revelation is false prophecy; it does not bear the fruit of Jesus. The apocalyptic God of sadistic torture does NOT resemble the indescribably beautiful God revealed in the life of Christ. The fruits of the BOR is death, destruction, torture and nonsense.

    ……and it doesn't reveal anything coherent.

    Colter


    Hi Colter,

    Because you do not like
    what it says is your evidence?
    That is no evidence at all whatsoever?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Not at all, Jesus tells me to be aware of false prophets, he taught that we will know false prophecy by it's fruits.

    The Book of Revelation was the last and most controversial book to be added to the cannon. It does not reflect the character and love of the God revealed by Jesus.

    I realise that your religion doesn't allow you to think critically, I can.

    Colter


    Hi Colter,

    It reflects an understanding of who the enemy is, something
    you seem to overlook; instead pointing in the wrong direction.

    What religion?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    The Jehovah’s Witness religion.

    Colter


    Huh?


    Hi Colter,

    Do you admit your mistake?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    You haven't said what denomination you are, I was basing my impression on your frequent use of “144,000” as well as other doctrine.

    Sorry if I was wrong, what is your affiliation?

    Colter

    #296391
    Ed J
    Participant

    None.

    #296395
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Colter, The 144,000 is a “symbolic” number, not to be
    taken as a literal amount. And here's the evidence…

    Melchizedek was a “King Priest” office
    rather than just merely a person.
    Jesus Christ fills this office.
    (Melchizedek was Shem)


                           
    “Blessed be the LORD God of Shem” (Gen 9:26)
        “Tents of Shem” equal 144

    Genesis 9:27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in
    the tents of Shem(144); and Canaan(Ham's son) shall be his servant.


                           
                              The Holy City, New Jerusalem  (Rev 21:16-17 )          

    The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof,
    an hundred and forty and four(144) cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

    Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and
    no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand(144,000), which were redeemed from the earth.


                                   
                                  Here's where it starts to get interesting

    Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed
    an hundred and forty and four thousand(144,000) of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    an hundred and forty and four thousandequals 373 (which is the 74th Prime number)


                           
                         Here's where it starts to get's even more interesting

    JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS”=373 (John 19:19)
    This most popular phrase curiously adds up to the 74th prime number: 373.
    Furthermore: “The King” equals 74 as well, which is at the center of this complete phrase.


                                                 
                            The significance of the number 74

    In English, the significant number 74 is attributed to “JOSHUA”=74 and “Messiah”=74; also
    in the following: “JESUS”=74, “Cross”=74, “Gospel”=74, and even “English”=74.

    “Jesus Christ” (74×32) also factors 74 in Greek Theomatically:
    [Jesus] Ιησους=74(x12), [Christ] Χριστоς=74(x20).
    [Son of Man] υιος τον ανθρωπου=74(x40).

    And even GEMATRIA equals 74.


            (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)                                    

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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