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Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,02:52) Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2012,01:36) Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,01:33) Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2012,01:26) Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,00:35) Ed, their is only one God Colter
Hi Colter,And there is only one satan.
Then again there is calgastia.God bless
Ed J
Caligastia was “The Prince of this world”, he was defeated by Jesus. Lucifer and Satan were different fallen celestials.Colter
Hi Colter,Please excuse me if I don't consider the book of Urania inspired.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Your excused Ed, just like the Bible, the UB does not claim to be “the word of God”.“Mankind should understand that we who participate in the revelation of truth are very rigorously limited by the instructions of our superiors. We are not at liberty to anticipate the scientific discoveries of a thousand years. Revelators must act in accordance with the instructions which form a part of the revelation mandate. We see no way of overcoming this difficulty, either now or at any future time. We full well know that, while the historic facts and religious truths of this series of revelatory presentations will stand on the records of the ages to come, within a few short years many of our statements regarding the physical sciences will stand in need of revision in consequence of additional scientific developments and new discoveries. These new developments we even now foresee, but we are forbidden to include such humanly undiscovered facts in the revelatory records. Let it be made clear that revelations are not necessarily inspired. The cosmology of these revelations is not inspired. It is limited by our permission for the co-ordination and sorting of present-day knowledge. While divine or spiritual insight is a gift, human wisdom must evolve.
(1109.4) 101:4.3 Truth is always a revelation: autorevelation when it emerges as a result of the work of the indwelling Adjuster; epochal revelation when it is presented by the function of some other celestial agency, group, or personality.
(1109.5) 101:4.4 In the last analysis, religion is to be judged by its fruits, according to the manner and the extent to which it exhibits its own inherent and divine excellence.
(1109.6) 101:4.5 Truth may be but relatively inspired, even though revelation is invariably a spiritual phenomenon. While statements with reference to cosmology are never inspired, such revelations are of immense value in that they at least transiently clarify knowledge by:
(1109.7) 101:4.6 1. The reduction of confusion by the authoritative elimination of error.
(1109.8) 101:4.7 2. The co-ordination of known or about-to-be-known facts and observations.
(1110.1) 101:4.8 3. The restoration of important bits of lost knowledge concerning epochal transactions in the distant past.
(1110.2) 101:4.9 4. The supplying of information which will fill in vital missing gaps in otherwise earned knowledge.
(1110.3) 101:4.10 5. Presenting cosmic data in such a manner as to illuminate the spiritual teachings contained in the accompanying revelation.
Colter
Hi Colter,
Yes it is the facile work of lost men.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,05:27) Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,02:52) Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2012,01:36) Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,01:33) Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2012,01:26) Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,00:35) Ed, their is only one God Colter
Hi Colter,And there is only one satan.
Then again there is calgastia.God bless
Ed J
Caligastia was “The Prince of this world”, he was defeated by Jesus. Lucifer and Satan were different fallen celestials.Colter
Hi Colter,Please excuse me if I don't consider the book of Urania inspired.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Your excused Ed, just like the Bible, the UB does not claim to be “the word of God”.“Mankind should understand that we who participate in the revelation of truth are very rigorously limited by the instructions of our superiors. We are not at liberty to anticipate the scientific discoveries of a thousand years. Revelators must act in accordance with the instructions which form a part of the revelation mandate. We see no way of overcoming this difficulty, either now or at any future time. We full well know that, while the historic facts and religious truths of this series of revelatory presentations will stand on the records of the ages to come, within a few short years many of our statements regarding the physical sciences will stand in need of revision in consequence of additional scientific developments and new discoveries. These new developments we even now foresee, but we are forbidden to include such humanly undiscovered facts in the revelatory records. Let it be made clear that revelations are not necessarily inspired. The cosmology of these revelations is not inspired. It is limited by our permission for the co-ordination and sorting of present-day knowledge. While divine or spiritual insight is a gift, human wisdom must evolve.
(1109.4) 101:4.3 Truth is always a revelation: autorevelation when it emerges as a result of the work of the indwelling Adjuster; epochal revelation when it is presented by the function of some other celestial agency, group, or personality.
(1109.5) 101:4.4 In the last analysis, religion is to be judged by its fruits, according to the manner and the extent to which it exhibits its own inherent and divine excellence.
(1109.6) 101:4.5 Truth may be but relatively inspired, even though revelation is invariably a spiritual phenomenon. While statements with reference to cosmology are never inspired, such revelations are of immense value in that they at least transiently clarify knowledge by:
(1109.7) 101:4.6 1. The reduction of confusion by the authoritative elimination of error.
(1109.8) 101:4.7 2. The co-ordination of known or about-to-be-known facts and observations.
(1110.1) 101:4.8 3. The restoration of important bits of lost knowledge concerning epochal transactions in the distant past.
(1110.2) 101:4.9 4. The supplying of information which will fill in vital missing gaps in otherwise earned knowledge.
(1110.3) 101:4.10 5. Presenting cosmic data in such a manner as to illuminate the spiritual teachings contained in the accompanying revelation.
Colter
Hi Colter,
Yes it is the facile work of lost men.
Jealous Nick?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,05:57) Hi Colter,
No sad you were so easily deceived.
The Jews say the same about you, but seeing how you have not read the Urantia Book your opinion is from utter ignorance.Colter
Hi Colter,
So far you have boasted of your superiority to Peter and Paul by judging them and their brothers.
In so going you judge the Spirit that inspired these servants.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,08:42) Hi Colter,
So far you have boasted of your superiority to Peter and Paul by judging them and their brothers.
In so going you judge the Spirit that inspired these servants.
That’s your legalistic way of thinking, God's my judge not you. I've merely said that Peter and Paul went a different direction. That Paul made compromises with the Pagans based on Paul’s religious heritage. They meant well, but created confusion and false ideas about human sacrifice.Colter
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,09:29) Hi Colter,
You are greater?
No, the real gospel of Jesus is greater.Colter
Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,07:21) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,05:57) Hi Colter,
No sad you were so easily deceived.
The Jews say the same about you, but seeing how you have not read the Urantia Book your opinion is from utter ignorance.Colter
Hi Colter,How much of the book of Urantia have you read?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 19 2012,11:32) Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,07:21) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2012,05:57) Hi Colter,
No sad you were so easily deceived.
The Jews say the same about you, but seeing how you have not read the Urantia Book your opinion is from utter ignorance.Colter
Hi Colter,How much of the book of Urantia have you read?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I've read the entire Urantia book several times through. I come from a family of UB readers. I started seriously studying the book about 26 years ago after being reborn.Colter
SACRED AND PROFANE HISTORY
97:8.1 The custom of looking upon the record of the experiences of the Hebrews as sacred history and upon the transactions of the rest of the world as profane history is responsible for much of the confusion existing in the human mind as to the interpretation of history. And this difficulty arises because there is no secular history of the Jews. After the priests of the Babylonians exile had prepared their new record of God's supposedly miraculous dealings with the Hebrews, the sacred history of Israel as portrayed in the Old Testament, they carefully and completely destroyed the existing records of Hebrew affairs—such books as “The Doings of the Kings of Israel” and “The Doings of the Kings of Judah,” together with several other more or less accurate records of Hebrew history.
97:8.2 In order to understand how the devastating pressure and the inescapable coercion of secular history so terrorized the captive and alien-ruled Jews that they attempted the complete rewriting and recasting of their history, we should briefly survey the record of their perplexing national experience. It must be remembered that the Jews failed to evolve an adequate nontheologic philosophy of life. They struggled with their original and Egyptian concept of divine rewards for righteousness coupled with dire punishments for sin. The drama of Job was something of a protest against this erroneous philosophy. The frank pessimism of Ecclesiastes was a worldly wise reaction to these overoptimistic beliefs in Providence.
97:8.3 But five hundred years of the overlordship of alien rulers was too much for even the patient and long-suffering Jews. The prophets and priests began to cry: “How long, O Lord, how long?” As the honest Jew searched the Scriptures, his confusion became worse confounded. An olden seer promised that God would protect and deliver his “chosen people.” Amos had threatened that God would abandon Israel unless they re-established their standards of national righteousness. The scribe of Deuteronomy had portrayed the Great Choice—as between the good and the evil, the blessing and the curse. Isaiah the first had preached a beneficent king-deliverer. Jeremiah had proclaimed an era of inner righteousness—the covenant written on the tablets of the heart. The second Isaiah talked about salvation by sacrifice and redemption. Ezekiel proclaimed deliverance through the service of devotion, and Ezra promised prosperity by adherence to the law. But in spite of all this they lingered on in bondage, and deliverance was deferred. Then Daniel presented the drama of the impending “crisis”—the smiting of the great image and the immediate establishment of the everlasting reign of righteousness, the Messianic kingdom.
97:8.4 And all of this false hope led to such a degree of racial disappointment and frustration that the leaders of the Jews were so confused they failed to recognize and accept the mission and ministry of a divine Son of Paradise when he presently came to them in the likeness of mortal flesh—incarnated as the Son of Man.
97:8.5 All modern religions have seriously blundered in the attempt to put a miraculous interpretation on certain epochs of human history. While it is true that God has many times thrust a Father's hand of providential intervention into the stream of human affairs, it is a mistake to regard theologic dogmas and religious superstition as a supernatural sedimentation appearing by miraculous action in this stream of human history. The fact that the “Most Highs rule in the kingdoms of men” does not convert secular history into so-called sacred history.
97:8.6 New Testament authors and later Christian writers further complicated the distortion of Hebrew history by their well-meant attempts to transcendentalize the Jewish prophets. Thus has Hebrew history been disastrously exploited by both Jewish and Christian writers. Secular Hebrew history has been thoroughly dogmatized. It has been converted into a fiction of sacred history and has become inextricably bound up with the moral concepts and religious teachings of the so-called Christian nations.
97:8.7 A brief recital of the high points in Hebrew history will illustrate how the facts of the record were so altered in Babylon by the Jewish priests as to turn the everyday secular history of their people into a fictitious and sacred history:
Colter
Hi Colter,
What are thoughts on the 'Thought Adjusters'?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 23 2012,00:41) Hi Colter, What are thoughts on the 'Thought Adjusters'?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
TA's are a good explanation of the spirit within man. What did you want to know about them?Colter
Quote (Colter @ April 24 2012,03:09) Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2012,00:41) Hi Colter, What are (YOUR) thoughts on the 'Thought Adjusters'?
God bless
Ed J
TA's are a good explanation of the spirit within man. What did you want to know about them?Colter
Hi Colter: (sorry, I left the word “YOUR” out of my quote)Your thoughts. I did read at least 3/4 of that ginormous book myself.
The actuation of “God the Supreme” will be a shock to this world of chaos.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 24 2012,04:51) Quote (Colter @ April 24 2012,03:09) Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2012,00:41) Hi Colter, What are (YOUR) thoughts on the 'Thought Adjusters'?
God bless
Ed J
TA's are a good explanation of the spirit within man. What did you want to know about them?Colter
Hi Colter: (sorry, I left the word “YOUR” out of my quote)Your thoughts. I did read at least 3/4 of that ginormous book myself.
The actuation of “God the Supreme” will be a shock to this world of chaos.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
The Adjusters are a marvelous gift entrusted to mere mortals, i delight in the revelation that this “Father fragment” indwells my mind, waiting patiently for those occasions where I sincerely desire to be lead by the will of God. The TA's are the will of God abroad in the universe.The concept of God the Supreme is truly a fascinating revelation as well. Man, in partnership with God to assist in the evolution of God in time and in space. That man has actually been given the opportunity to contribute something unique to the evolution of this particular aspect of God is an indication that God needs man as much as we need God.
But the complete actualization of the Supreme won't occur until after this world is settled in light and life. In fact, it won't be until after all seven super universes of time and space have been settled. Universe philosophers speculate on just what possible adventure awaits the now evolving matter beyond the borders of the Grand universe once that occurs.
Colter
Hi Colter,
This Father fragment, 'as you say',:
is really a “fractal”, complete of all that the father is.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Colter,
The actuation of “God the Supreme” is not encumbered by this world of chaos as you are suggesting.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org“When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him,
then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations:
and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them
on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:” (Matt 25:31-34)Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2012,09:54) Hi Colter, This Father fragment, 'as you say',:
is really a “fractal”, complete of all that the father is.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
OkThose of us who survive eventually “fuse” with the Thought Adjuster. It is the TA' that carries our personality transcripts; it is the guardian of our soul during the sleep of death if we have not been translated. Upon our resurrection on the first mansion world it is our TA who eventually downloads our transcripts into the new vestal. We carry only the good, positive growth memories with us, all nonessential is forgotten.
Colter
Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2012,09:57) Hi Colter, The actuation of “God the Supreme” is not encumbered by this world of chaos as you are suggesting.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
God the Supreme is evolving, it cannot be complete until the exhaustion of all experience-able reality in the Grand universe is complete.Colter
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