the truth that no one get around

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  • #322478
    terraricca
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    all

    I would like to see if we can get around of some of the events and people discribe in the scriptures ,in a way that it would make other persons in scriptures liars ,if not why not ???

    if yes why would it be possible ???

    this topic i create to see if truth of God is clossely integrated with the people describe within the scriptures and so we cannot go around them but have to concider them as one ,and an undivisible part of the scriptures ,this said I would like that only the NIV 1984, the KJV 1611,and the net bible are used as common bibles,

    if you use another one please quote the reason for it and post both text ;

    so my first question his ;

    could we ignore for a starter ;Noah -Abraham-Jacob-Moses -David-Solomon-Isaiah-John the Baptist-Christ- the apostles-so what do you think ???

    #322522
    Ed J
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    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2012,09:31)
    all

    so my first question his ;
    could we ignore for a starter ;Noah -Abraham-Jacob-Moses -David-Solomon-Isaiah-John the Baptist-Christ- the apostles-so what do you think ???


    Hi Pierre,

    I don't understand your question?
    Can you ask it again, but this time using different words?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322535
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,07:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2012,09:31)
    all

    so my first question his ;
    could we ignore for a starter ;Noah -Abraham-Jacob-Moses -David-Solomon-Isaiah-John the Baptist-Christ- the apostles-so what do you think ???


    Hi Pierre,

    I don't understand your question?
    Can you ask it again, but this time using different words?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    hi ed

    what I am asking is ,in scriptures there is a lot of people that have been important ,like i mention some of them ,so my question his can we delete some of them and still call the scriptures the truth ,

    and by removing some of them would it not make other people in scriptures liars ???

    is this better ???

    #322553
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2012,13:57)
    hi ed

    what I am asking id in scriptures there is a lot of people that have been important ,like i mention some of them ,so my question his can we delete some of them and still call the scriptures the truth ,

    is this better ???


    Yes better: but this question can be answered “Yes” or “No”

           But I don't know what you're asking here…

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    and by removing some of them would it not make other people in scriptures liars ???


    .

    #322568
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,09:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2012,13:57)
    hi ed

    what I am asking id in scriptures there is a lot of people that have been important ,like i mention some of them ,so my question his can we delete some of them and still call the scriptures the truth ,

    is this better ???


    Yes better: but this question can be answered “Yes” or “No”

           But I don't know what you're asking here…

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    and by removing some of them would it not make other people in scriptures liars ???


    .


    Edj

    Assume for instance we remove David would the written word of God still be the same ???

    By doing that would it make some of the remaining people not become liars ???

    #322685
    terraricca
    Participant

    people are willingly quoting parts of scriptures and do not realize what they are doing ,

    #324301
    terraricca
    Participant

    THE TRUE MATURITY OF A SO CALLED BELIEVER IS SEEN IN THE MANER THAT HE USES AND INTERPRET THE WORD OF GOD ,AS A WHOLE WRITTEN WORD OF TRUTH OR ONLY TRY TO FIND SOME WORDING THAT COULD SUPPORT HIS DEVIOUS MIND,

    MANY USES THIS SITE AS A DUMP AND SO PUKED THEIR MIS GUIDANCE AND IGNORANCE ,AND SO BELIEVING THAT THEY SERVE THE TRUE GOD ,AND SOME BELIVE THAT GOD WILL SAVE THEM ,WICH GOD ARE THEY SUPPORTING ??? IF NOT THE TRUE ONE ??? QUOTING SCRIPTURES IS NOT UNDERSTANDING THEM,IT MEANS YOU CAN READ AND COPY.

    #324603
    terraricca
    Participant

    Many have read the bible and so believe that they have knowledge ,funny ,I have research the scritpture s for now 50 + and still learn from in my reading,

    My understanding is getting better ,the puzzle seems to make more light ,

    #324604
    terraricca
    Participant

    No one seems to interested in the truth ,they all have it ,so they do not look for truth but they look more to preach there own views ,and if it need to be change or twist scriptures to make it support their own doctrine of lies

    #324635
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Jesus said we cannot remove even the slightest pen-stroke. And God warned us not to add or take away from the scriptures.

    So, NO, I don't believe we can remove an entire person from the Bible, and still have truth.

    #324644
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2012,06:12)
    Jesus said we cannot remove even the slightest pen-stroke.  And God warned us not to add or take away from the scriptures.

    So, NO, I don't believe we can remove an entire person from the Bible, and still have truth.


    Many do not understand that nothing has been changed sins Moses received the commandments on mount Sinai, what says ; DT 6:5 “ You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.

    or ;DT 30:6 “Moreover the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, so that you may live.

    or; MK 12:30 AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.’

    tell me what is the size of you time left ??? or what is the size of the empty space in your heart ??? or what is the strength that you have left for anything else ???
    or what his in your soul that should be used other than for God ??? IF YOU DO ANYTHING FOR ANYONE ELSE THAN GOD THEN YOU ARE DIVIDED AND SO NOT WORTHY OF GOD PROMISE,

    #324649
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Micah 6
    6 With what shall I come before the Lord
       and bow down before the exalted God?
    Shall I come before him with burnt offerings,
       with calves a year old?
    7 Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams,
       with ten thousand rivers of oil?
    Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression,
       the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?
    8 He has showed you, O man, what is good.
       And what does the Lord require of you?
    To act justly and to love mercy
       and to walk humbly with your God.

    #324650
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2012,07:09)
    Micah 6
    6 With what shall I come before the Lord
       and bow down before the exalted God?
    Shall I come before him with burnt offerings,
       with calves a year old?
    7 Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams,
       with ten thousand rivers of oil?
    Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression,
       the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?
    8 He has showed you, O man, what is good.
       And what does the Lord require of you?
    To act justly and to love mercy
       and to walk humbly with your God.


    yes Mike and

    JN 15:22 “ If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.

    #324655
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Once we've read Jesus' words, we are responsible to them.  Then comes this:

    John 3
    16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

    18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

    #324658
    terraricca
    Participant

    and more so;Heb 12:5 and ye have forgotten the exhortation which reasoneth with you as with sons, My son, regard not lightly the chastening of the Lord, Nor faint when thou art reproved of him;

    #324808
    terraricca
    Participant

    one of my favored scripture passage;

    Pr 2:1 My son, if you accept my words
    and store up my commands within you,
    Pr 2:2 turning your ear to wisdom
    and applying your heart to understanding,
    Pr 2:3 and if you call out for insight
    and cry aloud for understanding,
    Pr 2:4 and if you look for it as for silver
    and search for it as for hidden treasure,
    Pr 2:5 then you will understand the fear of the LORD
    and find the knowledge of God.
    Pr 2:6 For the LORD gives wisdom,
    and from his mouth come knowledge and understanding.
    Pr 2:7 He holds victory in store for the upright,
    he is a shield to those whose walk is blameless,
    Pr 2:8 for he guards the course of the just
    and protects the way of his faithful ones.

    Pr 2:9 Then you will understand what is right and just
    and fair—every good path.
    Pr 2:10 For wisdom will enter your heart,
    and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul.
    Pr 2:11 Discretion will protect you,
    and understanding will guard you.

    Pr 2:12 Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men,
    from men whose words are perverse,
    Pr 2:13 who leave the straight paths
    to walk in dark ways,
    Pr 2:14 who delight in doing wrong
    and rejoice in the perverseness of evil,
    Pr 2:15 whose paths are crooked
    and who are devious in their ways.

    Pr 2:16 It will save you also from the adulteress,
    from the wayward wife with her seductive words,
    Pr 2:17 who has left the partner of her youth
    and ignored the covenant she made before God.
    Pr 2:18 For her house leads down to death
    and her paths to the spirits of the dead.
    Pr 2:19 None who go to her return
    or attain the paths of life.

    Pr 2:20 Thus you will walk in the ways of good men
    and keep to the paths of the righteous.
    Pr 2:21 For the upright will live in the land,
    and the blameless will remain in it;
    Pr 2:22 but the wicked will be cut off from the land,
    and the unfaithful will be torn from it.

    Pr 3:1 My son, do not forget my teaching,
    but keep my commands in your heart,
    Pr 3:2 for they will prolong your life many years
    and bring you prosperity.

    Pr 3:3 Let love and faithfulness never leave you;
    bind them around your neck,
    write them on the tablet of your heart.
    Pr 3:4 Then you will win favor and a good name
    in the sight of God and man.

    this I have done ,

    #326040
    terraricca
    Participant

    how can a man know God the father ???

    #326050
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2012,07:12)
    how can a man know God the father ???


    Terra.

    I love those scriptures,it brings tears to my eyes.

    To know Jesus is to know God the Father.
    Both have the same caracter,and will.

    The Son is as the Father,and so will we be also as the Son.
    God loves us all and so we must learn to love one another.
    God hates the wicked,and so we should hate the wicked,but let God do the judging.

    We hate the wicked by not following their footsteps,but try to bring them to the fold,for it is the sick that needs the docter.

    wakeup.

    #326080
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2012,03:06)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2012,07:12)
    how can a man know God the father ???


    Terra.

    I love those scriptures,it brings tears to my eyes.

    To know Jesus is to know God the Father.
    Both have the same caracter,and will.

    The Son is as the Father,and so will we be also as the Son.
    God loves us all and so we must learn to love one another.
    God hates the wicked,and so we should hate the wicked,but let God do the judging.

    We hate the wicked by not following their footsteps,but try to bring them to the fold,for it is the sick that needs the docter.

    wakeup.


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    God hates the wicked,and so we should hate the wicked,but let God do the judging.

    God hates the wickedness of the wicked ,this is not the same thing ,

    how could God loving kindness Hate someone, that ,he has send his son to save ???does not make sense ,right ??

    so we also should hate the wickedness of the wicked and not copy his wickedness ,

    but hope that the truth of God will reach him ,just like Paul and many others

    #326098
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    God loves his creation,but he hates the spirit of wickedness in them.
    He wants all to have eternal life,but the wickedness of man,prevents him.He will not allow the deceased enter his fold, he must be destroyed.

    wakeup.

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