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  • #328746
    carmel
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    terraricca,Jan. wrote:

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    like her chromosomes ,none of hers was used

    Terraricca,

    WHERE DID JESUS GOT HIS CHROMOSOMES FROM???

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #328749
    carmel
    Participant

    terraricca,Jan. wrote:

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    But she did not have any connection in producing the living child

    Terraricca,

    How do you concluded,that Mary HAD NO CONNECTION???

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #328765
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,10:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 16 2013,21:27)
    GOD was manifest in the flesh. (see John 1:14)


    The original Greek words were “HE was manifest in the flesh”.


    Hi Mike,

    Here is what the (original) Greek says:

    θεος εφανερωθη εν σαρκι
       ↕
    “God was manifest in the flesh”  (1Tim.3:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328766
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,10:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2013,04:26)
    Hi Mike,

    1.  Why this is so hard for you to believe?
    2.  Has not part of you became your son too?

    3.  What I WILL say is: something that WAS Mike
    became someone who IS NOT Mike any longer.


    1.  Because it's asinine.

    2.  Absolutely not.  I am just as much “Mike” now as I was before my son was begotten.  There is no part of me that went missing when my son was born, Ed.

    3.  No Ed.  Something that was MY SPERM merged with something that was A WOMAN'S EGG, and became someone who is not Mike.

    I am not my sperm, Ed.  And my sperm is not “Mike”.


    Hi Wakeup,

    No part of God is missing do to Jesus birth either.
    Your sperm was not part of you; I disagree.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328767
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2013,18:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2013,00:49)
    Hi Pierre,

    Mary was Jesus' biological mother.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj

    A surrogate mother is a biological mother


    Hi Pierre: Not true.

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    she did not have any connection in producing the living child ,like her chromosomes ,none of hers was used


           Her chromosomes were indeed used.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328769
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 19 2013,02:56)

    Ed wrote:

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    Jesus mother was human. (Jesus was: 50% God, 50% human)

    Edj,

    Now read hereunder and explain how you concluded that Jesus was 50% God, 5o% human!!!

    Colossians 1:9 For in him dwelleth all the FULNESS of the Godhead bodily

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    That doesn't change anything.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328821
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,00:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2013,18:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2013,00:49)
    Hi Pierre,

    Mary was Jesus' biological mother.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj

    A surrogate mother is a biological mother


    Hi Pierre: Not true.

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    she did not have any connection in producing the living child ,like her chromosomes ,none of hers was used


           Her chromosomes were indeed used.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    if Jesus was biologically tide to Mary his surrogate mother ,then ;

    Jesus his born with the curse of Adam sin,,and so he would not be without sin ;

    and also then Jesus was a Man ;and so he could not pay the prize to God nor for him or anyone else ,being himself a sinner ,

    and also if so Jesus was not existing prior to his coming at his birth through Mary,

    and this would make many in scriptures liars including God his father ,WHO SAYS THAT HE SEND THE DELIVERER,

    AND CHRIST ALSO WOULD BE A LIAR ,WEN HE SAYS “THAT HE COMES FROM ABOVE,FROM HIS FATHER PLACE AND THAT HE AS TO RETURN TO HIM THAT SEND HIM,

    so it seems that the truth lays in scriptures and not in men interpretation

    #328825
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Pierre,

    Not so, the bible says in Adam all die, not EVE;
    for she(EVE) is the mother of ALL living;
    was Jesus not (in fact) living?

    Jesus also misses the curse put on David's lineage,
    because Nathan (Mary's great great … Grand father: see
    Luke 3:23-31), son of David, was already born.  (ref. 2 Samuel 12:10)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328852
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

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    That doesn't change anything.

    Edj,

    I'm afraid I have to repeat the same question!

    Now read hereunder and

    explain how you concluded that Jesus was 50% God, 5o% human!!!

    Colossians 1:9 For in him dwelleth all the FULNESS of the Godhead bodily

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #328866
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed,

    ALSO:THE SON'S SPIRIT ,THE WORD, LEFT THE FATHER AND BY HIM, AND IN HIM, THE FATHER CREATED ALL, AND THE END PURE PRODUCT WAS MARY'S 100% FLESH BODY,THE EX SON'S SPIRIT,IN ORDER FOR THE FATHER TO CONCEIVE HIS SON AND BECOME

    JESUS AS A VISIBLE SUBSTANCE,THEREFORE HE WAS 100% A FLESH COVER!!!  

    JESUS AS A SOUL WAS 100% THE HOLY GHOST

    JESUS AS A SPIRIT WAS 100% THE FATHER

    THEREFORE THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY!!! ALMIGHTY GOD IN FLESH FORM, OR JESUS AS MAN IN THE FORM OF ALMIGHTY GOD.

    SO REFLECT ON THIS :

    FIRST THE SON WAS IN THE FATHER AND LEFT THE FATHER,

    THEN THE FATHER WAS ALL THE TIME IN THE SON THROUGH THE HOLY GHOST,TO CREATE ALL, AND ENDED IN MARY'S WOMB, HIS EX SON'S SPIRIT, THEREFORE THE FATHER IN THE SON AGAIN.

    HE WAS BORN BOTH WITH THE 100% SPIRIT OF TRUTH,AND THE 100% SPIRIT OF LIES .

    HE REMOVED THE 100% SPIRIT OF LIES IN BAPTIZM.

    HE RECEIVED THE 100 % SPIRIT OF DEATH SIMPLY TO GLORIFY THROUGH IT!!!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #328882
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 19 2013,17:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,05:38)
    That doesn't change anything.


    Edj,

    I'm afraid I have to repeat the same question!

    Now read hereunder and

    explain how you concluded that Jesus was 50% God, 5o% human!!!

    Colossians 1:9 For in him dwelleth all the FULNESS of the Godhead bodily

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Hi Charles: sure, OK.

                            Jesus lineage explained

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

                       Mother         Father
                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

    #328887
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,10:43)
    Hi Pierre,

    Not so, the bible says in Adam all die, not EVE;
    for she(EVE) is the mother of ALL living;
    was Jesus not (in fact) living?

    Jesus also misses the curse put on David's lineage,
    because Nathan (Mary's great great … Grand father: see
    Luke 3:23-31), son of David, was already born.  (ref. 2 Samuel 12:10)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So Eve still alive now some were on earth ???

    Being the first and only one women ,tell me was their any other alternative ??? Mean become the mother of the first generation of humans

    #328889
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 19 2013,12:42)
    Ed,

    ALSO:THE SON'S SPIRIT ,THE WORD, LEFT THE FATHER AND BY HIM, AND IN HIM, THE FATHER CREATED ALL, AND THE END PURE PRODUCT WAS MARY'S 100% FLESH BODY,THE EX SON'S SPIRIT,IN ORDER FOR THE FATHER TO CONCEIVE HIS SON AND BECOME

    JESUS AS A VISIBLE SUBSTANCE,THEREFORE HE WAS 100% A FLESH COVER!!!  

    JESUS AS A SOUL WAS 100% THE HOLY GHOST

    JESUS AS A SPIRIT WAS 100% THE FATHER

    THEREFORE THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY!!! ALMIGHTY GOD IN FLESH FORM, OR JESUS AS MAN IN THE FORM OF ALMIGHTY GOD.

    SO REFLECT ON THIS :

    FIRST THE SON WAS IN THE FATHER AND LEFT THE FATHER,

    THEN THE FATHER WAS ALL THE TIME IN THE SON THROUGH THE HOLY GHOST,TO CREATE ALL, AND ENDED IN MARY'S WOMB, HIS EX SON'S SPIRIT, THEREFORE THE FATHER IN THE SON AGAIN.

    HE WAS BORN BOTH WITH THE 100% SPIRIT OF TRUTH,AND THE 100% SPIRIT OF LIES .

    HE REMOVED THE 100% SPIRIT OF LIES IN BAPTIZM.

    HE RECEIVED THE 100 % SPIRIT OF DEATH SIMPLY TO GLORIFY THROUGH IT!!!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    The fact that you believe your opinion ,I believe it would all make sense to you ,right ,

    To me it does not make any sense at all, how more I think and try to put scriptures to it it looks I can,t find hardly any to back your opinion up with

    #328891
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,13:09)

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 19 2013,17:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,05:38)
    That doesn't change anything.


    Edj,

    I'm afraid I have to repeat the same question!

    Now read hereunder and

    explain how you concluded that Jesus was 50% God, 5o% human!!!

    Colossians 1:9 For in him dwelleth all the FULNESS of the Godhead bodily

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Hi Charles: sure, OK.

                            Jesus lineage explained

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

                       Mother         Father
                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)


    Edj

    This is octopus ink

    #328900
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,18:18)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,10:43)
    Hi Pierre,

    Not so, the bible says in Adam all die, not EVE;
    for she(EVE) is the mother of ALL living;
    was Jesus not (in fact) living?

    Jesus also misses the curse put on David's lineage,
    because Nathan (Mary's great great … Grand father: see
    Luke 3:23-31), son of David, was already born.  (ref. 2 Samuel 12:10)

    God bless
    Ed J  


    So Eve still alive now some were on earth ???

    Being the first and only one women ,tell me was their any other alternative ??? Mean become the mother of the first generation of humans


    Hi Pierre,

    In Hebrew there is no word “Great, great, great. ect. …Grandmother”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #328901
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,18:26)
    This is octopus ink


    :D

    #328903
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,13:48)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,18:18)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,10:43)
    Hi Pierre,

    Not so, the bible says in Adam all die, not EVE;
    for she(EVE) is the mother of ALL living;
    was Jesus not (in fact) living?

    Jesus also misses the curse put on David's lineage,
    because Nathan (Mary's great great … Grand father: see
    Luke 3:23-31), son of David, was already born.  (ref. 2 Samuel 12:10)

    God bless
    Ed J  


    So Eve still alive now some were on earth ???

    Being the first and only one women ,tell me was their any other alternative ??? Mean become the mother of the first generation of humans


    Hi Pierre,

    In Hebrew there is no word “Great, great, great. ect. …Grandmother”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj

    What is this answer mean to my questions ???

    #328909
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,18:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,13:48)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2013,18:18)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,10:43)
    Hi Pierre,

    Not so, the bible says in Adam all die, not EVE;
    for she(EVE) is the mother of ALL living;
    was Jesus not (in fact) living?

    Jesus also misses the curse put on David's lineage,
    because Nathan (Mary's great great … Grand father: see
    Luke 3:23-31), son of David, was already born.  (ref. 2 Samuel 12:10)

    God bless
    Ed J  


    So Eve still alive now some were on earth ???

    Being the first and only one women ,tell me was their any other alternative ??? Mean become the mother of the first generation of humans


    Hi Pierre,

    In Hebrew there is no word “Great, great, great. ect. …Grandmother”.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj

    What is this answer mean to my questions ???


    Hi Pierre,

    Eve is the mother of all living, but
    Adam is NOT the father of all living.

    Now do you get it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #329128
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 18 2013,19:40)

    t8,Jan. wrote:

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      I am the soul.

    t8,

    In the previous post you also said:

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    I control my body. I am the head of my own body. Christ is the head of me.

    NOW REFLECT:

    You confirmed that you are A SOUL!!!

    You confirmed that you ,SOUL control your body,

    You confirmed that you,SOUL, are the head of your own body.

    You also affirmed that christ is the head of your SOUL!!!

    So Christ is the HEAD, AUTHORITY, CONTROLER, LEADER,  COMMANDER, AND MASTER of your SOUL!

    REALLY???

    BUT LET’S SAY YES,  FOR YOUR REASONING SAKE,WHAT ABOUT THE SOULS OF ALL WOMEN???

    WHO CONTROLS THE SOULS OF ALL WOMEN???

    ARE YOU TELLING ME THEN, THAT:

    THE MAN NOT CHRIST AS WELL
    CONTROLS THE SOUL OF THE WOMAN???

    SINCE THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN???

    DON’T YOU THINK IT’S NONSENSE???

    DON’T YOU THINK THEN THAT THE WORD HEAD IS NEVER  TO SIGNIFY , AUTHORITY,CONTROL, LEAD ,COMMAND, MASTER, THE WOMAN???

    NOW KEEP IN MIND,THAT THESE ALSO ARE YOUR WORDS:

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    If 'head' meant soul, then that whole verse is a bunch of babble.

    MORE TO COME!!!

    Peace and Love in Jesus

    Charles


    Change the word control for authority.

    The police in authority to me and I wouldn't say they control me.

    My body is a machine that I control.

    But I don't control my wife and Christ does not control me.

    #329182
    carmel
    Participant

    mikeboll64,Jan. wrote:

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    And it seems you believe that Jesus did lots of changing.

    Mike,

    Not Jesus!

    Jesus' spirit,the WORD, God's substance, did a lot of changes in order for God to create all by Him.

    So there isn't any thing in all existence without Jesus' versatile spirit in it as a mediator between God and all His entire creatures,the only life source.

    John 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.

    So in Him was God, the only life source,throughout creation.

    In this way God was in all no matter what!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

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