The Trinity Doctrine

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Quote (Oxy @ June 27 2010,18:29)

You can justify yourself as much as you like Mike, but I am more than satisfied with what the Lord has taught me, and I am reminded of why I left this forum last time.. and the time before lol

Suit yourself. They were only scriptural points that refute your beliefs – that's all.

I don't get you people. It's like you have a preconceived notion that Moses' brother was named Stanley. And no matter how many times we show you scriptures that prove his name was Aaron, you don't want to believe it. And then you go as far as to claim that the Lord is the one who told you Moses' brother was named Stanley. Oh, brother.

mike

June 28, 2010 at 3:05 am#200471

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Hi MB,
Tradition dies hard

June 28, 2010 at 3:11 am#200473

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,14:05)

Hi MB,
Tradition dies hard

Ya know Nick,

They have seen us post “the only true God” verse many times. I think they fail to understand the extreme nature of the rest of that verse. Jesus starts by saying “This means ETERNAL LIFE……”

I want that…….badly.

mike

June 28, 2010 at 6:57 pm#200570

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,14:05)

Hi MB,
Tradition dies hard

Ya know Nick,

I want that…….badly.

mike

More half truths. God's revelation to us was progressive. Decades after Jesus spoke those words it was revealed to John that Jesus is the “eternal life which was WITH the Father” (1 John 1:3); and that He is “the true God and the eternal life” (1 John 5:20).

Don't forget: A half truth is a whole lie!

the Roo

June 28, 2010 at 7:29 pm#200581

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Hi KJ,
Christ was in John continuing the revelation of truth.
The Spirit of God does not speak of His own initiative so where did this new trinity stuff come from?

June 28, 2010 at 9:08 pm#200597

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,06:29)

Hi KJ,
Christ was in John continuing the revelation of truth.
The Spirit of God does not speak of His own initiative so where did this new trinity stuff come from?

Yes Nick,

Jesus said that the Spirit shall not speak on His own initiative but shall “GLORIFY ME” (John 16:14). Therefore, the anti-trinitarians do not speak of the Spirit because they do not glorify Jesus.

June 28, 2010 at 9:22 pm#200601

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Hi KJ,
Indeed the Spirit of God glorifies the Son of God.
You should take your opportunity to become one with him and share in that Spirit.

Standing on a soapbox outside the kingdom gate is futility.

June 28, 2010 at 9:31 pm#200605

Worshipping Jesus

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,06:29)

Hi KJ,
Christ was in John continuing the revelation of truth.
The Spirit of God does not speak of His own initiative so where did this new trinity stuff come from?

Yes Nick,

Jack

Amen.

Paul also said no man can say “Jesus” is Lord but by the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor 12:3

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity“. Matt 7:21, 22

They were not speaking or acting in the Holy Spirit because they also did not know him as their only Lord and Master!

June 28, 2010 at 9:34 pm#200606

Ed J

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2010,08:31)

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 28 2010,16:08)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,06:29)

Hi KJ,
Christ was in John continuing the revelation of truth.
The Spirit of God does not speak of His own initiative so where did this new trinity stuff come from?

Yes Nick,

Jack

Amen.

Paul also said no man can say “Jesus” is Lord but by the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor 12:3

They were not speaking or acting in the Holy Spirit because they also did not know him!

Hi WJ,

What iniquity are you accusing Nick of doing?

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

June 28, 2010 at 9:42 pm#200608

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Hi WJ,
Anyone can say Jesus is Lord but only to some it is truth and that is what the verse refers to.
Why do you call me LORD LORD and not do as I say?

June 28, 2010 at 9:44 pm#200612

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,08:22)

Hi KJ,
Indeed the Spirit of God glorifies the Son of God.
You should take your opportunity to become one with him and share in that Spirit.

Standing on a soapbox outside the kingdom gate is futility.

Nick,

The Spirit glorifies the Son. The persons in Revelation 5 sing songs to the Lamb which are about the Lamb. Are those persons singing according to the Spirit?

Do anti-trinitarians speak according to the Spirit when they refuse to glorify the Son in praise songs?

June 28, 2010 at 9:45 pm#200613

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Hi KJ,
We who are in Christ worship God with him.
Your faith is in other gods.

June 28, 2010 at 9:51 pm#200614

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-truth

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2010,08:31)

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 28 2010,16:08)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,06:29)

Hi KJ,
Christ was in John continuing the revelation of truth.
The Spirit of God does not speak of His own initiative so where did this new trinity stuff come from?

Yes Nick,

Jack

Amen.

Paul also said no man can say “Jesus” is Lord but by the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor 12:3

They were not speaking or acting in the Holy Spirit because they also did not know him as their only Lord and Master!

Yeah Keith,

Anti-trinitarian “truth” is half truth. On earth Jesus glorified the Father. But the Spirit afterwards glorifies Jesus. This is the WHOLE truth.

Wikipedia defines a half truth:

“A half-truth is a deceptive statement that includes some element of truth. The statement might be partly true, the statement may be totally true but only part of the whole truth, or it may utilize some deceptive element, such as improper punctuation, or double meaning, especially if the intent is to deceive, evade, blame or misrepresent the truth.”[1]

Jack

June 28, 2010 at 9:55 pm#200615

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,08:45)

Hi KJ,
We who are in Christ worship God with him.
Your faith is in other gods.

What other gods Nick?

June 28, 2010 at 9:59 pm#200617

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Hi KJ,
Your trinity is not in the bible.
Join with Jesus in worship of the God of Israel.

June 28, 2010 at 10:21 pm#200631

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,08:45)

Hi KJ,
We who are in Christ worship God with him.
Your faith is in other gods.

So you deny the legitimacy of songs to Christ and about Christ?

Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying:

“ You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
10 And have made us[d] kings[e] and priests to our God;
And we[f] shall reign on the earth.”

So you're saying that the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders in heaven were wrong for singing to the Lamb and about the Lamb? Are you sayng that they were singing and speaking contrary to the Spirit?

June 28, 2010 at 10:37 pm#200637

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Hi KJ,
The Spirit of Christ is one with God.

June 29, 2010 at 2:03 am#200678

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,14:05)

Hi MB,
Tradition dies hard

Ya know Nick,

I want that…….badly.

mike

Don't forget: A half truth is a whole lie!

the Roo

Neither scripture you posted says anything about Jesus being God. In fact, if you were to read the whole chapters, you'll find plenty of evidence to the contrary.

So, follow your own advice and start speaking whole truths.

mike

June 29, 2010 at 2:12 am#200679