The Trinity Doctrine

[Anonymous]

Here it is ED…on this page Quote (katjo @ Feb. 04 2010,08:26)
Sorry, but yes I do , and why? because the bible tells us. Your denying part of Gods word.
(I had quotted that to Karmarie on beleiving there is a hell)
its on this same page)
katjo

Hi Katjo,

The Bible teaches NO such thing. Loose the confusion!

Ed J

[Ed J]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 04 2010,15:38)

Here it is ED…on this page Quote (katjo @ Feb. 04 2010,08:26) Sorry, but yes I do , and why? because the bible tells us. Your denying part of Gods word. (I had quotted that to Karmarie on beleiving there is a hell) its on this same page) katjo Hi Katjo, The Bible teaches NO such thing. Loose the confusion! Ed J

Hi Katjo,

You have focused on the wrong thing. Loose the confusion!

The place is permanent, but people don't stay there permanently;
with the 'only' exception the 'unholy trinity'. (Rev.12:3, 13:1, 13:11)

Does this help you understand better what I meant?

Ed J

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2010,15:14)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2010,14:47) Why can't we play by God's rules? 1) You keep saying “I am” ED the witness, 2) “I am” speaking on behalf of God, 3) “I am ” ED telling you bible truth , 4) “I am” and MY God is not like the other gods 5) Let's just play by God's rules ED, 1) Not once have “I” said that LIE. 2) Not once have “I” said that LIE. 3) Not once have “I” said that LIE. 4) Not once have “I” said that LIE. 5) You should try is some time then you wouldn't be following satan: the NOT SO GREAT 'i am'!

So you are not witnessing to the world on behalf of Jehovah God?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2010,15:22)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2010,14:47) I don't think you are a liar The opposite of a liar is a faithful “WITNESS”! AKJV Joshua 22:34: And the children of Reuben, And the children of Gad (and half of the tribe of Manasseh (Joshua 22:11)) called the altar (עד [Ed]); for [Ed] shall be a witness between us that [יהוה האלהים=117] is [“GOD”]. Numbers don’t convey ideas; but numbers can confirm ideas. (Reuben=65 Gad=12 Manasseh=80÷2=40) [65+12+40=117]. “YHVH is GOD”=117; I can only pray your ears will open to “Bible Truth”=117. PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], AND the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed (AKJV Joshua 22:34)

The opposite of liar is not “faithful witness” It simply means the person is not lying and I don't think you are lying I just think you are ignorant to the truth of some of the things you say.

I only pray that you witness what you actually know but right now you say you have witnessed and have not witnessed.

God has NEVER told you anything about the Quran being false and yet you say you speak on behalf of God now in that respect you have lied but most things you are just ignorant about.

[karmarie]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 04 2010,09:05)

When you die your soul is going to heaven or hell if you were not a Christian when you die you dont get a second chance(scriptual) BUT if your alive but NOT a Christian and Jesus returns you can repent and except Him as your Savior. you still might have to go threw some of Gods wrath, but you can be saved.Scripture says even than there will be some who still will reject him. read Rev. 20;12-15( second death) katjo

Hi Katjo.

Whosoever shall seek to save his own life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. (Luke 17:33)

Yes there probably is a hell. The outer darkness. But hell itself eventually comes to an end, and is thrown in the lake of fire, comes to an end, the Second Death. And thats exactly what the bible says without adding mans opinions and ideas!

If you were raised as a Hindu, tried your hardest, raised your family, worked hard, suffered, cried, tried, did your best, do you really feel you deserve to be forever suffering in torment with no mercy and no end- ever? Really?

[karmarie]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:03)

Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 02 2010,20:09) Ed, I dont follow the books of Paul Hi Karmarie, That's probably why you don't know GOD(YHVH) very well. And that's also why satan's deceptions through BD have a grip on you. I have come to seek the Lost. Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Back to this Ed,

Bod doesnt have a grip on me. I make my own decisions. I learned about Islam a long long time before I came here.

So who had a grip on me way back then?

I bet I know just what your going to say:)

[JustAskin]

T8,

Thank you for the interjection. I'm not sure why WJ posted that 'to me' but I uphold your input as if it were my own.

The glory of god would be too much for a flesh and bone sinless human – let alone a sinful human – to behold.
Can you imagine that the angels walked through volcanoes, whirlwinds, go down to the depth of the seas, through the cosmos and so on, fashioning the earth and the universe under the guidance of God's will. Nothng can withstand his will and for spirit creatures – nothing physical at all is an obstacle.

However, for flesh, blood and bone, God has created limits on their tolerance against each elemental force so that flesh, blood and bone is limited in it's ultimate ability to 'create'. And this is good -“Anything – “!!! ” – Thats comes to the mind of man he will achieve, except to take his own life” (“Take his own life – That is: both to destroy the whole of mankind and to destroy his own spirit or that of another)
(Note: this is a paraphrase – just understand what it is saying rather than precise scriptural quotation)

[Anonymous]

kARMARIE, No the bible does not say it comes to a end. It says for-ever and ever. Heaven or hell is eternity. It doesnt matter if we like it or not, its what God says. I understand were you come from tho, I have wonderful loving people in my own family who are not Christians, they beleive in God but wont go to church, dont study the bible, but it takes more than just beleiving, weather your a good person or not. we are all lost, and all born sinners, and the word makes it very clear that we have to repent of our sins for Christ to come into our hearts to be saved. Thats how He knows you accept Him. I know “for-ever” blows our minds, I talked to my pastor about it before, being concerned about family memebers and He thinks, we will know our family members in heaven, but the ones who did not make it, we just wont miss. It will be wiped out of our minds, because there is no more sadness in heaven, to tears, no sickness.It will be a knew life with the family of God and the old is wiped out. Im not going to worry about it. I pray for God to call my family, (he already knows whats going to become anyway) right? He sits everything in place, and promises to take care of us when we are one of His. In bible study last week, we talked about even tho we are called to go out and plant the seed, and wonder are they ever going to get it are they going to come to Christ, our pastor showed us so many scriptures on Gods calling, His chosen ones. HE CHOSE US, some people, scripture says He has hardened there hearts and will never see His kingdom. He says even tho we are to plant the seed, until God starts massaging that persons heart,getting them to thinking, that is when they will repent and come to Christ. So I trust in God to answer my prayers, and we always have to remeber its on His time, not ours.

God Bless You..
katjo

[karmarie]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 05 2010,05:03)

Hi Katjo

None of us really know. Just trust in God I think.

God has shown me to just calm down. Quieten down and repent. I will obey

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 02 2010,23:38)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 03 2010,11:42) Hi JA Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 02 2010,12:55) I openly acknowledge that interpretation is down to the reader: Quote “Any interpretation is bound in the mind of teh interpretaer but to say it was God himself is truly absurd.” Was Moses absurd when he saw the backside of God? And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.  And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: And “I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. Ex 33:18-23   Blessings WJ God doesn't have a backside. He sends visible images of himself to represent himself. Even the NT writers new that it was an angel. The only way we can see God is through something visible. Jesus is the greatest revelation of God, followed by other angels, people, and other living beings. Even creation shows God's glory and we can look at it and know certain things about God by looking at what he made and whom he sends. I think it is fair to say that if you have seen Christ you have seen God. But it is not meant to be taken that he is God. Again, the only way to see the invisible God is through something or someone who is visible. God is spirit and he is eternal. He is not like us so that we can see his backside WJ. You need to understand that when we see God it is seeing the invisible God through a messenger or whatever.

t8

So God does not have a form?

So God is limited to take on any form that he wants without it being an Angel?

Wrong!

WJ

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
Your god is too small, and complicated.
2Cor 11

[Anonymous]

I AM POSTING THIS EVERYWHERE BECAUSE i THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ IT.

SALVATION
ROMANS 3;23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
6;23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD!
JOHN 3;3 No one can see the kingdom of God unless He is born again
JOHN 14;16 Jesus words) I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THREW ME
ROMANS 10;19 if you confess with your mouth JESUS IS LORD; and beleive in your heart that God raised Him from the dead YOU WILL BE SAVED! FOR IT IS WITH YOUR HEART THAT YOU BELEIVE AND ARE JUSTIFIED, AND ITS WITH YOUR MOUTH THAT YOU CONFESS AND ARE SAVED. ANY ONE WHO TRUST IN HIM WILL NEVER BE PUT TO SHAME

REV.3;20(jesus words) I stand at the door and knock, if anyone hears my voice, and opens the door(your heart) I will come in and eat with Him, and He with me. ITS A FREE GIFT, ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE IT?

God Bless You All..
katjo

[NickHassan]

Hi KAT,
Nothing has changed since Peter spoke at Pentecost.

Repent and be baptised in the name of Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the Spirit.

All have sinned and all need forgiveness and the contrivances of men are ineffectual in bypassing this problem.

The wrath of God awaits the false teachers and those who sadly followed them and never found God's forgiveness.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 05 2010,05:03)

kARMARIE, No the bible does not say it comes to a end. It says for-ever and ever. Heaven or hell is eternity. It doesnt matter if we like it or not, its what God says. I understand were you come from tho, I have wonderful loving people in my own family who are not Christians, they beleive in God but wont go to church, dont study the bible, but it takes more than just beleiving, weather your a good person or not. we are all lost, and all born sinners, and the word makes it very clear that we have to repent of our sins for Christ to come into our hearts to be saved. Thats how He knows you accept Him. I know “for-ever” blows our minds, I talked to my pastor about it before, being concerned about family memebers and He thinks, we will know our family members in heaven, but the ones who did not make it, we just wont miss. It will be wiped out of our minds, because there is no more sadness in heaven, to tears, no sickness.It will be a knew life with the family of God and the old is wiped out. Im not going to worry about it. I pray for God to call my family, (he already knows whats going to become anyway) right? He sits everything in place, and promises to take care of us when we are one of His. In bible study last week, we talked about even tho we are called to go out and plant the seed, and wonder are they ever going to get it are they going to come to  Christ, our pastor showed us so many scriptures on Gods calling, His chosen ones. HE CHOSE US, some people, scripture says He has hardened there hearts and will never see His kingdom. He says even tho we are to plant the seed, until God starts massaging that persons heart,getting them to thinking, that is when they will repent and come to Christ. So I trust in God to answer my prayers, and we always have to remeber its on His time, not ours. God Bless You.. katjo

So you believe that all the Jews are going to eternal hell?

Not ONE orthodox JEW believes in Jesus Christ, NOT ONE

Are they all going to hell?

[Anonymous]

I have been hearing on christian t.v. stations and radio about Jews excepting jesus as there Savior. .

God Bless..
katjo

[bodhitharta]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 05 2010,13:50)

I have been hearing on christian t.v. stations and radio about Jews excepting jesus as there Savior. . God Bless.. katjo

You didn't answer my question:

By the way there are also many Jews becoming Muslims

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2010,18:30)

So you are not witnessing to the world on behalf of Jehovah God?

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2010,14:12)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2010,18:30) So you are not witnessing to the world on behalf of Jehovah God? Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

So are you or are you not, because you said I lied that you did say that you were unless you are witnessing to #117, is that the name of God, you are using?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2010,14:18)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2010,14:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2010,18:30) So you are not witnessing to the world on behalf of Jehovah God? Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org So are you or are you not, because you said I lied that you did say that you were unless you are witnessing to #117, is that the name of God, you are using?

I told you a number of times already what satan's title is!
You can choose to ignore this “Bible Truth” if you like; but I wouldn't recommend it.

Just because you choose not to differentiate satan's title, don't think for a minute “I” will.

[Anonymous]

B.D. I am not judging them BUT it clearly states in the bible for you to accept Jesus as you Lord and Savior. It is the only way for Salvation that’s how you gain the holy spirit JOHN 14;16 Jesus words) I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THREW ME
ROMANS 10;19 if you confess with your mouth JESUS IS LORD; and beleive in your heart that God raised Him from the dead YOU WILL BE SAVED! FOR IT IS WITH YOUR HEART THAT YOU BELEIVE AND ARE JUSTIFIED, AND ITS WITH YOUR MOUTH THAT YOU CONFESS AND ARE SAVED. ANY ONE WHO TRUST IN HIM WILL NEVER BE PUT TO SHAME

God Bless you…
katjo

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