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TT,
Wow, you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel for excuses now.Jesus' flesh was God's flesh.
You know something: I respect WJ for not answering. TT, you give the most foolish of answers.
I wrote a long bit of text but it wouldn't post (I'm using my mobile and it's after midnight in the UK). The holy Spirit didn't allow me to post it. I think I would be shocked to reread it tomorrow…later on today.
Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 26 2010,11:41) TT,
Wow, you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel for excuses now.Jesus' flesh was God's flesh.
You know something: I respect WJ for not answering. TT, you give the most foolish of answers.
I wrote a long bit of text but it wouldn't post (I'm using my mobile and it's after midnight in the UK). The holy Spirit didn't allow me to post it. I think I would be shocked to reread it tomorrow…later on today.
Wow! You are anti-christian JA. WJ has said this Himself before. Are you going to answer Acts 20:28 or not? Try dealing with John 1:1-14 while you're at it. It says that the Word was God and that the Word became flesh.Why do you lie by calling yourself “JustAskin?” You're not “askin” at all.
And why do you continue to persist that WJ cannot answer you when he clearly explained his reasons? Grow up dude!
You have yet to debunk my arguments. If you're next post to me is not a serious and well thought reply to Acts 20:28 or any one of my arguments I will just put you in the same category with ED J and ignore you.
thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 26 2010,11:52) Hi TT,
You glory in your petty arguments not caring if they align with scripture?
And those “petty” arguments are what?thinker
As much as I don't want to say it, and WJ has already prewarned me…
Has the question: As what did Jesus die – God or Man?
flumuxed the greatest of Trinitarian minds in this forum such that they dive for cover or delve into develry?
You know, you could have just said: 'I do not know'
But all the same, I learned some things as well so well done for forcing the threads lesson on me.
So, summing up. Jesus died as Man, therefore he was not God.
Now everything you read will now become clear to you. GOD is nolonger a mystery and evrything you need for a healthy, Godwealthy life through Christ, The BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, is right in front of you in the Scriptures – but read with discernment!
I said before that you were not a true trinitarian. You know nothing except how to twist words and defy reason.
I don't even believe you earnt your so called quakifications. Your arguments are weak and stupid at time , incompatible with the questions being asked,TT, go to the 'front' of the class (do you know what this means?)
Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 26 2010,11:54) As much as I don't want to say it, and WJ has already prewarned me… Has the question: As what did Jesus die – God or Man?
flumuxed the greatest of Trinitarian minds in this forum such that they dive for cover or delve into develry?
You know, you could have just said: 'I do not know'
But all the same, I learned some things as well so well done for forcing the threads lesson on me.
So, summing up. Jesus died as Man, therefore he was not God.
Now everything you read will now become clear to you. GOD is nolonger a mystery and evrything you need for a healthy, Godwealthy life through Christ, The BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, is right in front of you in the Scriptures – but read with discernment!
I would not say “I don't know” because I reject your false dichotomy. Jesus cannot be divided. He was put to death in the flesh which was God's own flesh.28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.
If you reject that Jesus was God in the flesh then you are NOT a christian. And you shouldn't call yourself “JustAskin” because it is a lie.
He was put to death in the flesh and the flesh was God's. But He remained in the spirit. Hebrews 1 says that Jesus “upholds all things by the word of His power.” He upheld the universe even while He hung on the torture stake. I am not ashamed of my Christ. You suggest that WJ is ashamed when you do not know him at all.
Good night sir.
thinker
Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 26 2010,12:01) TT,
What are you twaddling about now.What has Acts 20:28 got to do with what we are talking about?
Huh what? Read it. The apostle said that God purchased His church with His own blood. And you ask, “What has this to do with anything.” Okaaaaaay!thinker
Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 26 2010,12:06) I said before that you were not a true trinitarian. You know nothing except how to twist words and defy reason.
I don't even believe you earnt your so called quakifications. Your arguments are weak and stupid at time , incompatible with the questions being asked,TT, go to the 'front' of the class (do you know what this means?)
That's real intelligent of you. When you cannot answer the arguments just attack the person.thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 26 2010,12:15) Hi TT,
Jesus was the Son of God but that does not make God a man.
It was God's taking flesh made Him a man. That man was called the Son of God.thinker
Hi TT,
Immortal God was not made into a mortal man.
God was in heaven where Jesus told men to pray to him.Nick,
This is how people react when they have been caught with their hands in the cooky jar.
“I flaw flomewon take flome out flo I was flecking to flee how muny whor fleft”That Trinity lark is sure something to deep and mysterious.
God's flesh was pierced with a spear?
Jesus' spirit went up to God in heaven… Wait, God's Spirit is the Holy Spirit, how csn trinitarians say that Jesus has his OWN Spirit separate from the Godhead?
If the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father, the Spirit of Truth, and Jesus is God, what need does Jesus have for his own?
And if the Holy Spirit is Person, does 'he' have his own Spirit?
Shrouded in mysticals, is the 'T'-side but there is always port in any storm 'God is a mystery'!,
Surely God wants us to know him, he sent his Son to reveal Him to us and to die for us, why shroud his revelation in mindnumbing, wordtwisting, obscure rendering and reasoning?
One day…
Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 26 2010,12:29) Nick, This is how people react when they have been caught with their hands in the cooky jar.
“I flaw flomewon take flome out flo I was flecking to flee how muny whor fleft”That Trinity lark is sure something to deep and mysterious.
God's flesh was pierced with a spear?
Jesus' spirit went up to God in heaven… Wait, God's Spirit is the Holy Spirit, how csn trinitarians say that Jesus has his OWN Spirit separate from the Godhead?
If the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father, the Spirit of Truth, and Jesus is God, what need does Jesus have for his own?
And if the Holy Spirit is Person, does 'he' have his own Spirit?
Shrouded in mysticals, is the 'T'-side but there is always port in any storm 'God is a mystery'!,
Surely God wants us to know him, he sent his Son to reveal Him to us and to die for us, why shroud his revelation in mindnumbing, wordtwisting, obscure rendering and reasoning?
One day…
Yak yak yak. After all your huff and puff you still haven't answered Acts 20:28.thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 26 2010,11:51) Are you going to answer Acts 20:28 or not? Try dealing with John 1:1-14 while you're at it. It says that the Word was God and that the Word became flesh. You have yet to debunk my arguments. If you're next post to me is not a serious and well thought reply to Acts 20:28 or any one of my arguments I will just put you in the same category with ED J
thinker
Hi Thinker,Yea; it's hard for you to try to debunk “Truth”!
Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible…
“The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John;
He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness in Luke 4:1 and He(Holy Spirit)
caused Jesus to return from the wilderness in Luke 4:14! He(Holy Spirit)
also made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind!
This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14)The JW’s believe that at the point of baptism by John (the baptizer) is when Jesus became the Messiah;
this view is consistent with the previous paragraph; which I’m sure they will disagree with.
This lack of consistency on their part is the very reason why Christendom thinks their Organization is 'a cult'.And here are the Facts according to Science…
Science suggests that blood in the fetus comes from the father’s genetics.
That would mean “Jesus”=74 had “GOD Blood”=74 running through his veins.
To put this in scientific terms (according to facts written in the Bible),
that would mean Jesus Genetics at his birth was ½ HOLYSPIRIT(Jesus’ FATHER; Matt.1:18),
¼ from the tribe JUDAH (Mary’s Father’s tribe; Luke 3:23-33)
and ¼ from the tribe of LEVI (Mary’s Mother’s tribe; Luke 1:5).
1Timothy 6:20 O Timothy(and Thinker), keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:It's the shedding of Jesus' Father's(HolySpirit) “God blood” that removes the sin of the world(Acts 20:28 / Heb.9:22).
“GOD The Father” raised Jesus back from the dead (resurrection); for our Justification(Rom.4:25).
“The Savior”=117 is “GOD The Father”=117; who is known in the Hebrew tongue as
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm, and there is NO OTHER! (Isaiah 43:11)If willing you 'choose' to turn your back to “Truth”, I will not argue with you;
you can believe whatever you want to believe, but you have heard “The Truth”.
My “ONLY” goal is to expose “Bible Truth”=117!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgED J said:
Quote It's the shedding of Jesus' Father's(HolySpirit) “God blood” that removes the sin of the world(Acts 20:28 / Heb.9:22).
“GOD The Father” raised Jesus back from the dead (resurrection); for our Justification(Rom.4:25).
“The Savior”=117 is “GOD The Father”=117; who is known in the Hebrew tongue as
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm, and there is NO OTHER! (Isaiah 43:11)You require us to take you seriously when you speak only ga ga drivel and gobbledygook?
thinker
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