The Trinity Doctrine

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (942767 @ July 08 2007,08:37)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2007,08:22) Hi 94, God made man in His image. The Son is His image. Now we are being conformed to the image of His Son by the Word and the Spirit. Hi Nick: Exactly, that was God's plan in the beginning.  Jesus became the express image of God's person through obedience to the Word of God, and God is conforming us to the image of His Son by His Spirit through the Word of God.  The same Word that Jesus taught and obeyed even unto death on the cross. God Bless

94

The scriptures do not say “Jesus became the express image of God”!

Please show me!

[acertainchap]

Hell is real.

[TimothyVI]

Quote (acertainchap @ July 08 2007,09:23)

Hell is real.

Hi Chap,

Of course it is. It is a place where people stored their potatos in the middle ages.

Tim

[942767]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 08 2007,09:22)

Quote (942767 @ July 08 2007,08:37) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2007,08:22) Hi 94, God made man in His image. The Son is His image. Now we are being conformed to the image of His Son by the Word and the Spirit. Hi Nick: Exactly, that was God's plan in the beginning.  Jesus became the express image of God's person through obedience to the Word of God, and God is conforming us to the image of His Son by His Spirit through the Word of God.  The same Word that Jesus taught and obeyed even unto death on the cross. God Bless 94 The scriptures do not say “Jesus became the express image of God”! Please show me!

Hi WJ:

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Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had * by himself purged * our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

This scripture does not say that he became the express image of his person, but I base my statement on the following scriptues:

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Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and * * supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;   5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;   5:9 AND BEING MADE PERFECT, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

God Bless

[NickHassan]

Hi 94,
Monogenes Son
He emptied himself and came.
He learned at the knee of his Father God.
He had to grow in wisdom and understanding and be made perfect.
Through much suffering he learned to live a sinless life and fulfill completely the OT law.
A clean vessel fit to be used of God's purposes.
anointed by God's Spirit to reveal God
Son of man in the few days of his flesh.

[Laurel]

Is. 43:11 “besides me there is no savior”
meaning if Y'shua did not fulfill His Word then it must be from satan. Y'shua Messiah never, ever, contrdicted His Father in heaven, if He did then He is not the Savior.

Hebrews the Book speaks of entering His rest. Nick, I hope you are not twisting truth here to say that every day is sacred now since Messiah. Hebrews in all it's context refers to the 7th day Sabbath as well as YHWH's high Sabbaths, not the sunday sabbath of the Catholic church, and their man-made feastivals.
Heb. 4:5 says: So in this place again there shall be a rest and continuing to the next verse it says, only those who do not believe will not rest.

[942767]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2007,10:50)

Hi 94, Monogenes Son He emptied himself and came. He learned at the knee of his Father God. He had to grow in wisdom and understanding and be made perfect. Through much suffering he learned to live a sinless life and fulfill completely the OT law. A clean vessel fit to be used of God's purposes. anointed by God's Spirit to reveal God Son of man in the few days of his flesh.

Hi Nick:

Scripture Please?

[NickHassan]

Hi Laurel,
Are you reborn yet into the lord of the Sabbath?
Seeking the kingdom is the number one priority for all.
Heb 4 refers surely to the seventh day rest of the 1000yr reign[Rev20]

[Laurel]

Are you orthodox something or other? There are things that have been revealed to me since I started honoring the Sabbath. These things came only by His grace. I can't explain, you have to do it yourself to see.

[Laurel]

And Nick, how dare you compare Catholic doctrine to YHWH's truth. Shame!

[IM4Truth]

Chap! Hell is not real, it is a hole in the ground. What is real is a the Lake of Fire where God will Destroy Satan, the False Prophet and anybody who can't follow God's way will also be burned up in the Lake of Fire after the Millennium. We have a Merciful God. Rev. teaches us that everything will be made new, how can that happen if somewhere in the universe there is this Fire burning forever and ever. Besides it says Destroy and what does destroy mean? I do believe it will take some time. Mrs.IM4Truth

[NickHassan]

Hi L,
It is a comfort to our hearts to attempt to be perfected by obedience to the OT Law.
The Pharisees did that.
Paul the perfect Pharisee became a murderer by this deception.

They became as whited sepulchres full of sin and dead men's bones, because, being sinners they were unable to cleanse themselves and could only change the exterior appearances.

Christ came to offer all the forgiveness of God and we must all repent and be baptised calling on his name that he would wash the inside of our cup.

[GeneBalthrop]

nick,,> it also say's in Rev. the ones who were there keep the comandments of God, and have the testamony of Moses and Jesus.

Jesus said he came not to destory the law but fullfill it.Jesus as well as the deciples keep the comandments of God, when ask by a man what he had to do to inter the kindom of God his reply was keep the commandment and even went on the name some of them.

God also said he would remove our hearts of stone and give us a heart of flesh and would write his law on our inward parts.

and again the gentiles who have not the law but DO THE THINGS CONTAINED IN THEM show the law of God written in their hearts.

the comandments are still suposed to be keep. Gene.

[NickHassan]

Hi Gene,
Not by might nor by power but by the Spirit.
The law is of the Spirit fulfilled by the guidance of the Spirit.

[GeneBalthrop]

hi nick ..you are correct and the spirit is never against God's comandments it the very thing that hepls us keep

peace to you…. gene

[NickHassan]

Hi Gene,
The law of Christ is of love.
That's it.

[Is 1:18]

Quote (t8 @ July 08 2007,01:41)

Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 07 2007,22:24) Yeshua is our brother, yes. He is also our Lord and we are to honour Him even as we honour the Father (John 5:23). Incidentally t8, we are also described in scripture as the bride of Christ. By your reasoning we are all female….. Is it that hard to admit that Jesus is God's son? He is God's son is he not?

Yes He is.

Luke 1:35
35The angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.

[IM4Truth]

Jesus never taught any other God but One JOHN 17:3
Jesus never claimed to be equal with God JOHN 14:28
In fact Jesus said of himself He can do nothing JOHN 5:19

Jesus never said He would send another God, He would have the Father send His Holy Spirit that would comfort the Apostles. JOHN 14:26

The Holy Spirit is God's Holy Mind, not another Person.
PHIL.2:5
Mrs. IM4Truth

[IM4Truth]

YES INDEAD THE LAW IS LOVE———————-AMEN

PEACE Mrs.IM4Truth

[acertainchap]

Hello Mr. or Mrs. IM4Truth I wish that I could believe you about Hell not being a place of eternal torment. Something inside me has always made me think that Hell is eternal torment. Idk I can't describe it. Something inside me has always made me feel that this is the truth.

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