The sword slays the dragon

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  • #366636
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 15 2013,11:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 15 2013,05:55)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,10:29)
    Wakeup,

    The things you say sound an awful lot like you believe Jesus is God Almighty.

    Is that what you think?


    Mike b.

    Jesus is the Word of God
    made flesh.
    The Word of God is God's own Word.
    Still can not see?

    wakeup.


    w

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    The Word of God is God's own Word.

    I never see words walking ,never mind dressed in flesh


    I will not try to explain it to you Terra,it would be to much for you. Stay on the milk untill your first tooth.

    wakeup.

    #366637
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 14 2013,17:55)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,10:29)
    Wakeup,

    The things you say sound an awful lot like you believe Jesus is God Almighty.

    Is that what you think?


    Mike b.

    Jesus is the Word of God
    made flesh.
    The Word of God is God's own Word.
    Still can not see?

    wakeup.


    My question is:

    Is Jesus GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF?  YES or NO?

    #366638
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 17 2013,11:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 14 2013,17:55)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,10:29)
    Wakeup,

    The things you say sound an awful lot like you believe Jesus is God Almighty.

    Is that what you think?


    Mike b.

    Jesus is the Word of God
    made flesh.
    The Word of God is God's own Word.
    Still can not see?

    wakeup.


    My question is:

    Is Jesus GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF?  YES or NO?


    Mikeb.

    Jesus is the mighty father.
    Only because of him and his bride(the daughter of zion)
    we will be *born again* out of the womb of his bride.
    This is born of the spirit,and we will be spirit.
    He is our Father,and the daughter of Zion is our Mother.
    God would be in (earthly speaking) our grand father.
    If you can see it that way.

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
    **Wonderful**,
    **Counsellor**,
    **The mighty God**,
    **The everlasting Father**
    **The Prince of Peace**.
    This is speaking of Jesus.
    Now; what say you,and most christians?
    They say that He is the father/God;He is YHWH.

    We need to look deeper into the scriptures.
    1.It says a son is born.
    2 Son of who?
    3.SON OF GOD.
    4.Who is the Father?
    5.The father is God.
    6.So he could not be the Father.
    7. So what now?
    8.What now is: that God is the possessor of His Word.
    9. What is spoken of the Word, is spoken of the owner.
    10. Now we can see that The Word is the Word,and God is
    HE who owns his Word.

    After all that, we can understand that God and HIS WORD is one God.The Word will *always* obey his owner.
    If we are in Christ;we are also in God because God is in Christ.

    Is God's Word also almighty?
    I think you can, i'm sure answer that question.

    wakeup.

    #366639
    terraricca
    Participant

    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION

    #366640
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.

    #366641
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,

    #366642
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,


    T.

    You are a brother that I love like all my brothers/sist.
    Dont take it personally.

    I am rebuking the spirit that is hindering your understanding.
    I am sure that you are not against me personally,but against the spirit that I teach.

    If you would only hear without any animosity.
    Without being defensive,but always ready to come up with scriptures to correct any misinterpration.
    This is how it should be done.

    wakeup.

    #366643
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,


    T.

    You are a brother that I love like all my brothers/sist.
    Dont take it personally.

    I am rebuking the spirit that is hindering your understanding.
    I am sure that you are not against me personally,but against the spirit that I teach.

    If you would only hear without any animosity.
    Without being defensive,but always ready to come up with scriptures to correct any misinterpration.
    This is how it should be done.

    wakeup.


    w

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    Jesus is the mighty father.

    how could the son be the father of which he his the son of ???

    #366644
    terraricca
    Participant

    w

    Quote
    We need to look deeper into the scriptures.
    1.It says a son is born.
    2 Son of who?
    3.SON OF GOD.
    4.Who is the Father?
    5.The father is God.
    6.So he could not be the Father.
    7. So what now?
    8.What now is: that God is the possessor of His Word.
    9. What is spoken of the Word, is spoken of the owner.
    10. Now we can see that The Word is the Word,and God is
    HE who owns his Word.

    After all that, we can understand that God and HIS WORD is one God.The Word will *always* obey his owner.
    If we are in Christ;we are also in God because God is in Christ.

    1.It says a son is born.
    2 Son of who?
    3.SON OF GOD.
    4.Who is the Father?
    5.The father is God.
    6.So he could not be the Father.

    so far you are doing good ;

    7. So what now? WELL THAT WHERE YOU GOING DOWN HILL ,IN YOUR DEEP UNDERSTANDING ,

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    8.What now is: that God is the possessor of His Word.

    THIS DOES NOT FIT WITH YOUR FIRST SIX ITEMS ,YOU ANNUL THEM ALL AND DON'T SEE IT ,WHY ???

    Quote
    9. What is spoken of the Word, is spoken of the owner.
    10. Now we can see that The Word is the Word,and God is
    HE who owns his Word.

    THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE IF WE LOOK AT ,COL 1;15;-21 AND THE FIRST CHAP;OF JOHN GOSPEL

    YOU ARE MIXING ;THE SON OF GOD AND THE SPOKEN WORDS OF GOD AS ONE AND SAME THING ;AND THAT THE SCRIPTURES DO NOT SUPPORT IN ANY WAY ,

    #366645
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Good post, Pierre.  You answered it pretty much like I was thinking to answer it.

    Wakeup, Pierre and I DON'T think Jesus is the Father God – and I don't know what in the world would lead you to make that claim.

    Nor do we believe we will be brothers AND sons to our “father” Jesus Christ, and grandsons to our Father Jehovah………. like you apparently believe.

    I guess the DIRECT answer to my question, as derived from the bunch of blah-blah you posted, is “Yes Mike.  I DO believe Jesus is God Almighty Himself.  I DO believe that the Son OF God is the very God he is the Son OF.”

    Next time, just say so, okay?

    I will ask journey to guide you on this potentially fatal flaw in your understanding.  I will ask her to reaffirm for you that we have but ONE God, and Jesus is not Him, but instead His Son, Servant, Prophet, Priest, Sacrificial Lamb, Spokesman, and Christ.

    #366646
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,


    T.

    You are a brother that I love like all my brothers/sist.
    Dont take it personally.

    I am rebuking the spirit that is hindering your understanding.
    I am sure that you are not against me personally,but against the spirit that I teach.

    If you would only hear without any animosity.
    Without being defensive,but always ready to come up with scriptures to correct any misinterpration.
    This is how it should be done.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    Jesus is the mighty father.

    how could the son be the father of which he his the son of ???


    T.

    That was not what I said.

    I said:
    The Father is almighty,and his Word must be almighty.
    Do you agree or disagree?

    wakeup.

    #366647
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,07:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,


    T.

    You are a brother that I love like all my brothers/sist.
    Dont take it personally.

    I am rebuking the spirit that is hindering your understanding.
    I am sure that you are not against me personally,but against the spirit that I teach.

    If you would only hear without any animosity.
    Without being defensive,but always ready to come up with scriptures to correct any misinterpration.
    This is how it should be done.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    Jesus is the mighty father.

    how could the son be the father of which he his the son of ???


    T.

    That was not what I said.

    I said:
    The Father is almighty,and his Word must be almighty.
    Do you agree or disagree?

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Mikeb.

    Jesus is the mighty father.
    Only because of him and his bride(the daughter of zion)
    we will be *born again*

    THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID TO MIKE ;YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID IS “A” MIGHTY FATHER ………THIS COULD BE MORE TO THE TRUTH ,

    #366648
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,13:37)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,07:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,


    T.

    You are a brother that I love like all my brothers/sist.
    Dont take it personally.

    I am rebuking the spirit that is hindering your understanding.
    I am sure that you are not against me personally,but against the spirit that I teach.

    If you would only hear without any animosity.
    Without being defensive,but always ready to come up with scriptures to correct any misinterpration.
    This is how it should be done.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    Jesus is the mighty father.

    how could the son be the father of which he his the son of ???


    T.

    That was not what I said.

    I said:
    The Father is almighty,and his Word must be almighty.
    Do you agree or disagree?

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Mikeb.

    Jesus is the mighty father.
    Only because of him and his bride(the daughter of zion)
    we will be *born again*

    THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID TO MIKE ;YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID IS “A” MIGHTY FATHER ………THIS COULD BE MORE TO THE TRUTH ,


    T.

    The scripture says; The mighty Father.
    I can not;will not change that.

    wakeup.

    #366649
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,15:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,13:37)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,07:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,


    T.

    You are a brother that I love like all my brothers/sist.
    Dont take it personally.

    I am rebuking the spirit that is hindering your understanding.
    I am sure that you are not against me personally,but against the spirit that I teach.

    If you would only hear without any animosity.
    Without being defensive,but always ready to come up with scriptures to correct any misinterpration.
    This is how it should be done.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    Jesus is the mighty father.

    how could the son be the father of which he his the son of ???


    T.

    That was not what I said.

    I said:
    The Father is almighty,and his Word must be almighty.
    Do you agree or disagree?

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Mikeb.

    Jesus is the mighty father.
    Only because of him and his bride(the daughter of zion)
    we will be *born again*

    THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID TO MIKE ;YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID IS “A” MIGHTY FATHER ………THIS COULD BE MORE TO THE TRUTH ,


    T.

    The scripture says; The mighty Father.
    I can not;will not change that.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    T.

    The scripture says; The mighty Father.
    I can not;will not change that.

    wakeup.

    Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
    to us a son is given,
    and the government will be on his shoulders.
    And he will be called
    Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
    Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
    Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
    there will be no end.
    He will reign on David’s throne
    and over his kingdom,
    establishing and upholding it
    with justice and righteousness
    from that time on and forever.
    The zeal of the LORD Almighty
    will accomplish this.

    is this the scripture you refer to ??? if yes i do not see what you say .

    if not show your scriptures ,

    #366650
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,05:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,15:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,13:37)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,07:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,


    T.

    You are a brother that I love like all my brothers/sist.
    Dont take it personally.

    I am rebuking the spirit that is hindering your understanding.
    I am sure that you are not against me personally,but against the spirit that I teach.

    If you would only hear without any animosity.
    Without being defensive,but always ready to come up with scriptures to correct any misinterpration.
    This is how it should be done.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    Jesus is the mighty father.

    how could the son be the father of which he his the son of ???


    T.

    That was not what I said.

    I said:
    The Father is almighty,and his Word must be almighty.
    Do you agree or disagree?

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Mikeb.

    Jesus is the mighty father.
    Only because of him and his bride(the daughter of zion)
    we will be *born again*

    THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID TO MIKE ;YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID IS “A” MIGHTY FATHER ………THIS COULD BE MORE TO THE TRUTH ,


    T.

    The scripture says; The mighty Father.
    I can not;will not change that.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    T.

    The scripture says; The mighty Father.
    I can not;will not change that.

    wakeup.

    Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
    to us a son is given,
    and the government will be on his shoulders.
    And he will be called
    Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
    Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
    Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
    there will be no end.
    He will reign on David’s throne
    and over his kingdom,
    establishing and upholding it
    with justice and righteousness
    from that time on and forever.
    The zeal of the LORD Almighty
    will accomplish this.

    is this the scripture you refer to ??? if yes i do not see what you say .

    if not show your scriptures ,


    T.

    Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
    there will be no end.

    THIS PEACE WILL COME IN PARADISE.

    He will reign on David’s throne
    and over his kingdom,
    establishing and upholding it
    with justice and righteousness
    from that time on and forever.

    DAVID RULED ISRAEL: JESUS WILL ALSO RULE IN ISRAEL.

    The zeal of the LORD Almighty
    will accomplish this.

    ALL POWER COMES FROM GOD.

    SO WHAT IS IT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY?
    THAT THE SON IS NOT THE MIGHTY FATHER ?
    NOT FROM EVERLASTING?

    YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THE TRANSLATION IF THAT
    MAKES YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

    wakeup.

    #366651
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 19 2013,01:51)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,05:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,15:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,13:37)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,07:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,


    T.

    You are a brother that I love like all my brothers/sist.
    Dont take it personally.

    I am rebuking the spirit that is hindering your understanding.
    I am sure that you are not against me personally,but against the spirit that I teach.

    If you would only hear without any animosity.
    Without being defensive,but always ready to come up with scriptures to correct any misinterpration.
    This is how it should be done.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    Jesus is the mighty father.

    how could the son be the father of which he his the son of ???


    T.

    That was not what I said.

    I said:
    The Father is almighty,and his Word must be almighty.
    Do you agree or disagree?

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Mikeb.

    Jesus is the mighty father.
    Only because of him and his bride(the daughter of zion)
    we will be *born again*

    THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID TO MIKE ;YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID IS “A” MIGHTY FATHER ………THIS COULD BE MORE TO THE TRUTH ,


    T.

    The scripture says; The mighty Father.
    I can not;will not change that.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    T.

    The scripture says; The mighty Father.
    I can not;will not change that.

    wakeup.

    Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
    to us a son is given,
    and the government will be on his shoulders.
    And he will be called
    Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
    Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
    Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
    there will be no end.
    He will reign on David’s throne
    and over his kingdom,
    establishing and upholding it
    with justice and righteousness
    from that time on and forever.
    The zeal of the LORD Almighty
    will accomplish this.

    is this the scripture you refer to ??? if yes i do not see what you say .

    if not show your scriptures ,


    T.

    Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
    there will be no end.

    THIS PEACE WILL COME IN PARADISE.

    He will reign on David’s throne
    and over his kingdom,
    establishing and upholding it
    with justice and righteousness
    from that time on and forever.

    DAVID RULED ISRAEL: JESUS WILL ALSO RULE IN ISRAEL.

    The zeal of the LORD Almighty
    will accomplish this.

    ALL POWER COMES FROM GOD.

    SO WHAT IS IT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY?
    THAT THE SON IS NOT THE MIGHTY FATHER ?
    NOT FROM EVERLASTING?

    YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THE TRANSLATION IF THAT
    MAKES YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

    wakeup.


    w

    you did not answer my questions

    #366652
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,07:09)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 19 2013,01:51)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,05:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,15:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,13:37)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,07:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,14:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,08:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,13:17)
    MIKE

    IT IS HARD FOR MISGUIDED PEOPLE TO SAY THE TRUTH ,AND THIS TO ONLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS ,AND CANNOT ANSWER IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PREACH A LONG AND MYSTERY MESSAGE ALONG TO IT ,

    THEY DO NOT TRUST GOD WORDS ,THAT IS WHY THEY ADDED THEIR OWN COMMENTS ,SATAN DID THE SAME THING TO EVE ,THEY NEVER CHANGE THEIR APPROACH ,DECEIT FOR MONEY AND GLORY ALL EARTHLY COMPENSATION


    T.

    I am sure that you can not even understand that
    what I have put together.
    So when will you ever see the truth?
    It is so far away from you.
    The Word of God is almighty as God is almighty.

    You can not see that,because you have not grown your first tooth.

    wakeup.


    W

    If you would have the truth in understanding you would no belittle others ,this is your first sign ,the second sign is you do not answer questions,the third sign is you are arrogant when proven false ,

    Even if I would not know a thing that would be more than you have,


    T.

    You are a brother that I love like all my brothers/sist.
    Dont take it personally.

    I am rebuking the spirit that is hindering your understanding.
    I am sure that you are not against me personally,but against the spirit that I teach.

    If you would only hear without any animosity.
    Without being defensive,but always ready to come up with scriptures to correct any misinterpration.
    This is how it should be done.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    Jesus is the mighty father.

    how could the son be the father of which he his the son of ???


    T.

    That was not what I said.

    I said:
    The Father is almighty,and his Word must be almighty.
    Do you agree or disagree?

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Mikeb.

    Jesus is the mighty father.
    Only because of him and his bride(the daughter of zion)
    we will be *born again*

    THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID TO MIKE ;YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID IS “A” MIGHTY FATHER ………THIS COULD BE MORE TO THE TRUTH ,


    T.

    The scripture says; The mighty Father.
    I can not;will not change that.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    T.

    The scripture says; The mighty Father.
    I can not;will not change that.

    wakeup.

    Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
    to us a son is given,
    and the government will be on his shoulders.
    And he will be called
    Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
    Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
    Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
    there will be no end.
    He will reign on David’s throne
    and over his kingdom,
    establishing and upholding it
    with justice and righteousness
    from that time on and forever.
    The zeal of the LORD Almighty
    will accomplish this.

    is this the scripture you refer to ??? if yes i do not see what you say .

    if not show your scriptures ,


    T.

    Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
    there will be no end.

    THIS PEACE WILL COME IN PARADISE.

    He will reign on David’s throne
    and over his kingdom,
    establishing and upholding it
    with justice and righteousness
    from that time on and forever.

    DAVID RULED ISRAEL: JESUS WILL ALSO RULE IN ISRAEL.

    The zeal of the LORD Almighty
    will accomplish this.

    ALL POWER COMES FROM GOD.

    SO WHAT IS IT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY?
    THAT THE SON IS NOT THE MIGHTY FATHER ?
    NOT FROM EVERLASTING?

    YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THE TRANSLATION IF THAT
    MAKES YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

    wakeup.


    w

    you did not answer my questions


    T.

    Your so called question is not a question.

    wakeup.

    #366653
    terraricca
    Participant

    W

    Quote
    T.

    Your so called question is not a question.

    wakeup.

    is this the scripture you refer to ??? if yes i do not see what you say .

    JUST LOOK UP A FEW QUOTES

    #366656
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,11:45)
    W

    Quote
    T.

    Your so called question is not a question.

    wakeup.

    is this the scripture you refer to ??? if yes i do not see what you say .

    JUST LOOK UP A FEW QUOTES


    T.

    You did not answer my question.

    God's Word is almighty.
    Is His Word also almighty?
    A simple question.

    wakeup.

    #366657
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,15:34)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,11:45)
    W

    Quote
    T.

    Your so called question is not a question.

    wakeup.

    is this the scripture you refer to ??? if yes i do not see what you say .

    JUST LOOK UP A FEW QUOTES


    T.

    You did not answer my question.

    God's Word is almighty.
    Is His Word also almighty?
    A simple question.

    wakeup.


    w

    you start it again ,refusing to honestly answer the question

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