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  • #340067
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 29 2013,11:44)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 29 2013,01:47)
    Stu….. And do you know how your own mind is fooling you?


    I can close one eye and be completely unaware of the blindspot caused by the exit of the optic nerve from the retina, and yet can also demonstrate the existence of that blindspot, leading to the conclusion that my brain is making up the missing part in my vision.  I can hear the sound of hooves in the night and imagine all sorts of fanciful possibilities, perhaps zebras or unicorns, then can look outside and see that it was horses after all.  I can watch videos like this one:

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    You boast of evolution but can't find one of the trillion of changes it would take to bring about a gradual change of all the millions of different species on this earth .


    I showed you a whole series of them in relation to the evolution of the eye.  Did you read that, or are you just in broadcast mode?

    You are a bit like those with no love as outlined by Saul of Tarsus in Corinthians 13.  You have no love of the reality around you.  It would be fine if you never mentioned natural history, but when you do your voice is a clanging bell.

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    Then you have the idosity to say I am delusional and don't understand science when in fact it is you who can't produce your proof of a “theory” which has never been proven and full of “missing links” .


    Science doesn’t deal in “proof”, it deals in empirical evidence.  As for missing links, now you are making a joke of yourself in the eyes of any reasonably educated person.  Your kind of creationism follows this logic: every time a new intermediate species is found, you will say that there used to be one missing link and now there are two.  

    By the way, what does “idosity” mean?

    Stuart


    Stu.

    This is silly; that is called focusing.
    When the mind is focused on something,thats what you concentrate on,and thats what you only see.

    If you focus on a dot in a circle; you just see, the dot.
    You can do that with your camera.

    You are just dealing with the mechanics of the brain.
    The mind is different,it has a conscience.
    Not all brains work the same,but all has the same thing
    and that is called conscience.

    And I hope you have one too,because conscience can be subdued,and eventually totally blocked out.

    If one does not believe in the supernatural,that is because the mind is not capable to go past the natural.
    What you see is what you get,and what you see is just the outside. He can not see the inside.

    Beautiful on the out side,but can not see the poison inside.

    wakeup.

    #340084
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2013,10:58)

    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 29 2013,11:44)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 29 2013,01:47)
    Stu….. And do you know how your own mind is fooling you?


    I can close one eye and be completely unaware of the blindspot caused by the exit of the optic nerve from the retina, and yet can also demonstrate the existence of that blindspot, leading to the conclusion that my brain is making up the missing part in my vision.  I can hear the sound of hooves in the night and imagine all sorts of fanciful possibilities, perhaps zebras or unicorns, then can look outside and see that it was horses after all.  I can watch videos like this one:

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    You boast of evolution but can't find one of the trillion of changes it would take to bring about a gradual change of all the millions of different species on this earth .


    I showed you a whole series of them in relation to the evolution of the eye.  Did you read that, or are you just in broadcast mode?

    You are a bit like those with no love as outlined by Saul of Tarsus in Corinthians 13.  You have no love of the reality around you.  It would be fine if you never mentioned natural history, but when you do your voice is a clanging bell.

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    Then you have the idosity to say I am delusional and don't understand science when in fact it is you who can't produce your proof of a “theory” which has never been proven and full of “missing links” .


    Science doesn’t deal in “proof”, it deals in empirical evidence.  As for missing links, now you are making a joke of yourself in the eyes of any reasonably educated person.  Your kind of creationism follows this logic: every time a new intermediate species is found, you will say that there used to be one missing link and now there are two.  

    By the way, what does “idosity” mean?

    Stuart


    Stu.

    This is silly; that is called focusing.
    When the mind is focused on something,thats what you concentrate on,and thats what you only see.

    If you focus on a dot in a circle; you just see, the dot.
    You can do that with your camera.

    You are just dealing with the mechanics of the brain.
    The mind is different,it has a conscience.
    Not all brains work the same,but all has the same thing
    and that is called conscience.

    And I hope you have one too,because conscience can be subdued,and eventually totally blocked out.

    If one does not believe in the supernatural,that is because the mind is not capable to go past the natural.
    What you see is what you get,and what you see is just the outside. He can not see the inside.

    Beautiful on the out side,but can not see the poison inside.

    wakeup.


    Looks like you are basically agreeing with me.

    Stuart

    #340108
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Stu.

    Concerning the physical brain;yes.
    But there is more than just the physical,
    The mind is beyond science.
    The mind can travel from one place to another place in a wink of an eye,distance is of no concern.

    wakeup.

    #340120
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2013,21:45)
    The mind is beyond science.


    What was that about the man who says it can't be done being interrupted by the man doing it?

    Stuart

    #340127
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Mar. 30 2013,23:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2013,21:45)
    The mind is beyond science.


    What was that about the man who says it can't be done being interrupted by the man doing it?

    Stuart


    Stu.

    That man obviously has a negative mind.
    He should have tried it with a positive mind,and do
    the best he can,If that does not work,than he can say
    I have done my best.

    Wakeup.

    #340235
    2besee
    Participant

    James 4:10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
    1 Peter 5:6 Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you,

    #340242
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 31 2013,21:56)
    James 4:10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
    1 Peter 5:6 Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you,


    2Besee.

    Are you humble?
    Or stiff necked.

    wakeup.

    #340601
    2besee
    Participant

    I was posting that for anyone Wakeup including myself.
    What does humble mean to you?

    #340897
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ April 03 2013,12:43)
    I was posting that for anyone Wakeup including myself.
    What does humble mean to you?


    2Besee.

    Humble is the opposite to proud.
    A humble person does not have to walk on his knees.
    A humble person,does not have to whisper when he talks.
    A humble person can be strong in defending the truth.
    A humble person listens to advise, and then state his objections,or quickly agrees.

    The truth can not be compromised,for the sake of being polite.

    wakeup.

    #340951
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Stu…….Lets assume you were a designer and knew how and what you were going to build because what you use has been used before successfully, like say a steel beam or a window and you understood  there  functions and how you could use them in something you were going to design , because you have used them in similar strictures before, now if you used them in say a car you were designing or even a boat or say a cabin, or an umpire state building, would you say they evolved of there own selves into those totally different structures or those structures were different and even though there is a similar use in each of them , would that mean they of themselves evolved to those completely different objects themselves ?  

    So it is with a leg mussel , an eye, a tendon , Teeth to chew food , even though there are millions of different creatures, that  does not preclude any fact that there was not a designer designing them for his own purpose and pleasure by using those same functions in other creatures.  Just as if I were to ask you if all the different things the designer used, made themselves, you would tell me how ignorant I would be to even think such a thing as those things “evolving ” on there own, but yet you believe that about a far more  complicated thing then a mechanical structure. With no true supporting evidence, only a theory and rather you believe it or not it is, just a theory , the amount of time if possible for things to just evolve would put a time before there ever was an earth in existence it would have been before the Big Bang would have taken place right?

    As far a fossil being rare that is not really true, fossils are found everywhere, even where I live they have found them that go way back to the prehistoric age and the only head of humans fossils  that I am aware of is exactly like ours,  there are literally millions of fossils found and more and more all the time, but not one set of fossils showing human evolution as far as I know any way. A man draws a bunch of pictures and you “evolutionist gobble it up as true science, when in fact it is only human speculation . IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours Stu…………………………gene

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