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    terraricca
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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 21 2013,22:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 16 2013,16:02)
    gene

    why you do not answer my post now i have given scriptures that kills you views and faith as you tell me you have ,???


    Terricca……. ARE YOU DELUSIONAL,  You gave not one scripture that kills anything I have said, post the scripture where I said we shouldn't  do any thing, you simply are a false accuser of the brethren and are a servant of your father the devil,  he was a LIAR and a THIEF from the beginning .

    WHAT I SAID WAS WE CAN'T “EARN” OUR SALVATION,  IT IS A GIFT FROM GOD.

    I based that on the scripture that says For we are “SAVED” BY “GRACE” and that “NOT OF OURSELVES it is a GIFT from GOD.

    Nowhere did I say we do nothing in our lives to comply with the spirit of GOD. How can a man who is truly converted by God not want to do his will? If his mind has been changed his thinking has also and he will try to do things the way GOD leads Him.

    For it is “GOD” who “WORKS” in us “BOTH” TO “WILL” AND DO OF “HIS” GOOD PLEASURE

    You hate that scripture because you believe it is your yourself that saves yourself by your own so-called “FREEWILL CHOICES” .  YOU don't seem to want GOD to have any thing to do with it, your saving yourself because that will give you something to boast and get puffed up about.

    That is exactly why scripture says GOD saves us by GREACE Lest ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. That scripture is there for people like you who think they can “EARN” their salvation. IMO

    gene


    gene

    it is IF we chose to obey to God's words then we will stop working for the flesh and work for what is called the spirit ,this means do the things God wants us to do and so obey his commandments ,(two) those are the works upon which our faith is base on ,no works(deeds) no faith ,so not saved ,

    #355897
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terricca………..All is accomplished by the Spirit of God “Working” in us which is Given us BY THE “GRACE” of GOD ,Through the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ, GRACE means (unmerited) PARDON, Now if the Spirit of Him who raised Christ Jesus From the DEAD dwell in you He shall also quicken your mortal bodies.  God said our “WORKS” are as filthy rages to HIM. Mans “self works”, are what prevents him from truly surrendering to the Will of GOD.

    For we are saved by the Grace of God and that not “OF” or “FROM” ourselves it is a Gift from GOD. Our salvation from beginning to finish is a work of God, no man can save himslef by his own self works. IMO There is never a question that a “True” Christian should not be doing good Works, becasue that is exactly what the Spirit of God which we have recieved in our hearts and minds, should be producing in us, and if God's will is being done, that person will obey God in all of what he or she does through that same spirit he recieved from God. God the Father is both the “author” and “finisher”, of our salvation, And he does it through he blood of Christ Jesus alone who is our, kinsmen Redeemer. He paid the price of our salvation. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene

    #355994
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 22 2013,20:24)
    Terricca………..All is accomplished by the Spirit of God “Working” in us which is Given us BY THE “GRACE” of GOD ,Through the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ, GRACE means (unmerited) PARDON, Now if the Spirit of Him who raised Christ Jesus From the DEAD dwell in you He shall also quicken your mortal bodies.  God said our “WORKS” are as filthy rages to HIM. Mans “self works”, are what prevents him from truly surrendering to the Will of GOD.

    For we are saved by the Grace of God and that not “OF” or “FROM” ourselves it is a Gift from GOD. Our salvation from beginning to finish is a work of God, no man can save himslef by his own self works. IMO There is never a question that a “True” Christian should not be doing good Works, becasue that is exactly what the Spirit of God which we have recieved in our hearts and minds, should be producing in us, and if God's will is being done, that person will obey God in all of what he or she does through that same spirit he recieved from God. God the Father is both the “author” and “finisher”, of our salvation, And he does it through he blood of Christ Jesus alone who is our, kinsmen Redeemer. He paid the price of our salvation. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    G

    YOU MUST HAVE A DIFFERENT GOD AND SPIRIT than what I have ,because you believe things that my God does not teaches and that his spirit does not do ,

    #356006
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 23 2013,01:24)
    Terricca………..All is accomplished by the Spirit of God “Working” in us which is Given us BY THE “GRACE” of GOD ,Through the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ, GRACE means (unmerited) PARDON, Now if the Spirit of Him who raised Christ Jesus From the DEAD dwell in you He shall also quicken your mortal bodies.  God said our “WORKS” are as filthy rages to HIM. Mans “self works”, are what prevents him from truly surrendering to the Will of GOD.

    For we are saved by the Grace of God and that not “OF” or “FROM” ourselves it is a Gift from GOD. Our salvation from beginning to finish is a work of God, no man can save himslef by his own self works. IMO There is never a question that a “True” Christian should not be doing good Works, becasue that is exactly what the Spirit of God which we have recieved in our hearts and minds, should be producing in us, and if God's will is being done, that person will obey God in all of what he or she does through that same spirit he recieved from God. God the Father is both the “author” and “finisher”, of our salvation, And he does it through he blood of Christ Jesus alone who is our, kinsmen Redeemer. He paid the price of our salvation. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Gene B.

    The problem is there are not many serving God but themselves.

    A Jesus hating antischrist,is not automatically
    cleansed by Jesus death.

    wakeup.

    #356053
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God. Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey.

    Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene

    #356104
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,20:30)
    Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they  give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God.  Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey.

    Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene


    gene

    their are many reasons why people do things ,even do the action remain the same the motives may not be the same ,

    Christ says : do you think that the wicked gives stones to their children ??? no,Gene, they give the best they can have ,and so as well to their family ,but does the wicked serves God ??? I do not think so ,what about you ???

    #356135
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 25 2013,01:30)
    Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they  give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God.  Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey.

    Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene


    Gene.

    I agree with you that we are expected to do good works.
    All good works done from the heart is accepted to God.
    Good works done for other motives is an abomination to God;for it is not good works.

    The world feed the poor as you can see on tv, but they do that for politics sake.
    Donating millons to the poor, but also advertising it;is an abomination to God.

    wakeup.

    #356150
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup…….Do we judge the heart of why people do things , Is that not up to God, should we go about with an”Evil Eye”. Did Jesus not say he would divide up the nation and Judje them according to there charitable works at his return. I believe we as people of the US give to other poor nations for the sake of helping them out.  I choose to believe that and Not only the US does that BUT many other Nations do also. Remember we are told to judge rightly. Good is Good no matter how it helps the poor and  affected . IMO

    Who are we to judge the motives of others, and if their motives are wrong, will God not know it, and will He not render unto them according to their works.

    Peace and love to you and yours…………………gene

    #356151
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2013,12:20)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,20:30)
    Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they  give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God.  Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey.

    Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene


    gene

    their are many reasons why people do things ,even do the action remain the same the motives may not be the same ,

    Christ says : do you think that the wicked gives stones to their children ??? no,Gene, they give the best they can have ,and so as well to their family ,but does the wicked serves God ??? I do not think so ,what about you ???


    Terricca………Jesus said this , if “YOU” BEING EVIL “KNOW ” how to give GOOD GIFTS to your Children  , how much more will your Heavenly Father give them of the Spirit “THAT ASK” . Good is good no matter what the intent of the Heart of the giver,  which by the way, only GOD knows, but if the receiver has received GOOD IT IS GOOD NO MATTER WHAT, So why have and “EVIL EYE”, casting EVIL intents when you “DON'T KNOW”.  Be happy that there is any Good ANYWHERE being done by anyone for any reason.

    You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving. That is because the World has taught you to Judge that way. Why ascribe EVIL when you have no Idea what the heart of a giver is like? I have also done this in the past, but I try not to do it anymore, I will let the LORD make that CALL, if I am not sure, seeing He alone JUDGES THE HEARTS of Men, and therefore knows the reasons they do what they. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

    #356175
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2013,03:42)
    Wakeup…….Do we judge the heart of why people do things , Is that not up to God, should we go about with an”Evil Eye”. Did Jesus not say he would divide up the nation and Judje them according to there charitable works at his return. I believe we as people of the US give to other poor nations for the sake of helping them out.  I choose to believe that and Not only the US does that BUT many other Nations do also. Remember we are told to judge rightly. Good is Good no matter how it helps the poor and  affected . IMO

    Who are we to judge the motives of others, and if their motives are wrong, will God not know it,  and will He not render unto them according to their works.

    Peace and love to you and yours…………………gene


    Gene.

    We dont judge any man,but the words in the scriptures do the judging.
    Remember the old woman giving her last penny in secret?
    And the rich man showing off his his money before he puts it in the box?

    We do good works in secret,and God will reward us openly.

    wakeup.

    #356177
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2013,04:03)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2013,12:20)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,20:30)
    Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they  give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God.  Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey.

    Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene


    gene

    their are many reasons why people do things ,even do the action remain the same the motives may not be the same ,

    Christ says : do you think that the wicked gives stones to their children ??? no,Gene, they give the best they can have ,and so as well to their family ,but does the wicked serves God ??? I do not think so ,what about you ???


    Terricca………Jesus said this , if “YOU” BEING EVIL “KNOW ” how to give GOOD GIFTS to your Children  , how much more will your Heavenly Father give them of the Spirit “THAT ASK” . Good is good no matter what the intent of the Heart of the giver,  which by the way, only GOD knows, but if the receiver has received GOOD IT IS GOOD NO MATTER WHAT, So why have and “EVIL EYE”, casting EVIL intents when you “DON'T KNOW”.  Be happy that there is any Good ANYWHERE being done by anyone for any reason.

    You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving. That is because the World has taught you to Judge that way. Why ascribe EVIL when you have no Idea what the heart of a giver is like? I have also done this in the past, but I try not to do it anymore, I will let the LORD make that CALL, if I am not sure, seeing He alone JUDGES THE HEARTS of Men, and therefore knows the reasons they do what they. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene


    Gene B.

    Not so: Its good for the receiver only, but not good for
    the giver. Giving for some personal gain. Thats called bribing. Just like sacrificing lame sheep to God because you want to get rid of it. This is an abomination.
    Assuming God does not know.

    Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for **ye pay tithe** of *mint and anise and cummin*, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    Paying tithes to the church,but never improving spiritually.
    Still hanging on to the spirit of babylon .
    No one can pay his way to heaven.

    wakeup.

    #356199
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 25 2013,23:03)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2013,12:20)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,20:30)
    Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they  give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God.  Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey.

    Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene


    gene

    their are many reasons why people do things ,even do the action remain the same the motives may not be the same ,

    Christ says : do you think that the wicked gives stones to their children ??? no,Gene, they give the best they can have ,and so as well to their family ,but does the wicked serves God ??? I do not think so ,what about you ???


    Terricca………Jesus said this , if “YOU” BEING EVIL “KNOW ” how to give GOOD GIFTS to your Children  , how much more will your Heavenly Father give them of the Spirit “THAT ASK” . Good is good no matter what the intent of the Heart of the giver,  which by the way, only GOD knows, but if the receiver has received GOOD IT IS GOOD NO MATTER WHAT, So why have and “EVIL EYE”, casting EVIL intents when you “DON'T KNOW”.  Be happy that there is any Good ANYWHERE being done by anyone for any reason.

    You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving. That is because the World has taught you to Judge that way. Why ascribe EVIL when you have no Idea what the heart of a giver is like? I have also done this in the past, but I try not to do it anymore, I will let the LORD make that CALL, if I am not sure, seeing He alone JUDGES THE HEARTS of Men, and therefore knows the reasons they do what they. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene


    gene

    Quote
    You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving

    you cannot find one quote were I said what you say,

    we all know that only God can see your heart ;my answer to you was related to your comment that the action are so also are the motives ,and this is wrong,and untrue

    and yes that is the verse i refer to,thanks

    #356237
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 26 2013,10:48)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 25 2013,23:03)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2013,12:20)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,20:30)
    Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they  give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God.  Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey.

    Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene


    gene

    their are many reasons why people do things ,even do the action remain the same the motives may not be the same ,

    Christ says : do you think that the wicked gives stones to their children ??? no,Gene, they give the best they can have ,and so as well to their family ,but does the wicked serves God ??? I do not think so ,what about you ???


    Terricca………Jesus said this , if “YOU” BEING EVIL “KNOW ” how to give GOOD GIFTS to your Children  , how much more will your Heavenly Father give them of the Spirit “THAT ASK” . Good is good no matter what the intent of the Heart of the giver,  which by the way, only GOD knows, but if the receiver has received GOOD IT IS GOOD NO MATTER WHAT, So why have and “EVIL EYE”, casting EVIL intents when you “DON'T KNOW”.  Be happy that there is any Good ANYWHERE being done by anyone for any reason.

    You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving. That is because the World has taught you to Judge that way. Why ascribe EVIL when you have no Idea what the heart of a giver is like? I have also done this in the past, but I try not to do it anymore, I will let the LORD make that CALL, if I am not sure, seeing He alone JUDGES THE HEARTS of Men, and therefore knows the reasons they do what they. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene


    gene

    Quote
    You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving

    you cannot find one quote were  I said what you say,

    we all know that only God can see your heart ;my answer to you was related to your comment that the action are so also are the motives ,and this is wrong,and untrue

    and yes that is the verse i refer to,thanks


    Terricca………You your self are EVIL, is what Jesus said, “if “YOU” BEING EVIL Know how to give GOOD Gifts”, Now What does that mean to you . Does it not mean we EXIT in and EVIL STATE of Mind, or why would he say “YOU” BEING EVIL” if that were not the case. So that applies to us as well as others right?

    Not only that but you completely miss Quoted the scriptures you were relating to. My point was , There are lots of People serving God in there every day life by Giving and caring and taking care of there family's and giving to the poor and visiting the sick and etc, I even showed you where he would Judge the nation according to there actions of giving and caring for others. The whole world “EXISTS” in and EVIL STATE, but still there is good being done was my POINT.

    So why impute any Evil to GOOD you see being Done in the world, was my point to you. I have seen many “religious” so-called people , look at others with an evil eye , trying to find fault with even the good they do, not understanding THEY ARE EVIL THEMSELVES BY DOING THAT> We are not to Judge other that way , specifically when we do not know there hearts , like God Does. Whats good is good no matter who is doing it, what is evil is evil no matter who is doing it.

    I simple quoted a simple Scripture, What does God require of you O man, but to do “JUSTLY”, and to love “MERCY” and to walk “HUMBLY” with your God.

    Why did you even try to disagree with what i quoted in the first Place. Why try to find fault in any thing i quoted there? Thats the POINT. Where is your heart coming from.

    peace and love to you and your……………………….gene

    #356240
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2013,20:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 26 2013,10:48)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 25 2013,23:03)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2013,12:20)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,20:30)
    Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they  give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God.  Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey.

    Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene


    gene

    their are many reasons why people do things ,even do the action remain the same the motives may not be the same ,

    Christ says : do you think that the wicked gives stones to their children ??? no,Gene, they give the best they can have ,and so as well to their family ,but does the wicked serves God ??? I do not think so ,what about you ???


    Terricca………Jesus said this , if “YOU” BEING EVIL “KNOW ” how to give GOOD GIFTS to your Children  , how much more will your Heavenly Father give them of the Spirit “THAT ASK” . Good is good no matter what the intent of the Heart of the giver,  which by the way, only GOD knows, but if the receiver has received GOOD IT IS GOOD NO MATTER WHAT, So why have and “EVIL EYE”, casting EVIL intents when you “DON'T KNOW”.  Be happy that there is any Good ANYWHERE being done by anyone for any reason.

    You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving. That is because the World has taught you to Judge that way. Why ascribe EVIL when you have no Idea what the heart of a giver is like? I have also done this in the past, but I try not to do it anymore, I will let the LORD make that CALL, if I am not sure, seeing He alone JUDGES THE HEARTS of Men, and therefore knows the reasons they do what they. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene


    gene

    Quote
    You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving

    you cannot find one quote were  I said what you say,

    we all know that only God can see your heart ;my answer to you was related to your comment that the action are so also are the motives ,and this is wrong,and untrue

    and yes that is the verse i refer to,thanks


    Terricca………You your self are EVIL, is what Jesus said, “if “YOU” BEING EVIL Know how to give GOOD Gifts”, Now  What does that mean to you . Does it not mean we EXIT in and EVIL STATE of Mind, or why would he say “YOU” BEING EVIL” if that were not the case. So that applies to us as well as others right?

    Not only that but you completely miss Quoted the scriptures you were relating to. My point was , There are lots of People serving God in there every day life by Giving and caring and taking care of there family's and giving to the poor and visiting the sick and etc, I even showed you where he would Judge the nation according to there actions of giving and caring for others. The whole world “EXISTS” in and EVIL STATE, but still there is good being done was my POINT.

    So why impute any Evil to GOOD you see being Done in the world, was my point to you. I have seen many “religious” so-called people , look at others with an evil eye , trying to find fault with even the good they do, not understanding THEY ARE EVIL THEMSELVES BY DOING THAT> We are not to Judge other that way , specifically when we do not know there hearts , like God Does. Whats good is good no matter who is doing it, what is evil is evil no matter who is doing it.

    I simple quoted a simple Scripture, What does God require of you O man, but to do “JUSTLY”, and to love “MERCY” and to walk “HUMBLY” with your God.

    Why did you even try to disagree with what i quoted in the first Place. Why try to find fault in any thing i quoted there? Thats the POINT. Where is your heart coming from.

    peace and love to you and your……………………….gene


    G

    So this scripture that you quote,is the rule of law,and so all the rest of the bible can be burned ???

    #356319
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terricca………I never said that, but if you do what i quoted, that is all you need to truly do , to please God, That's it in a Nut Shell. Making Gods way hard and full of all kind of do and don't , twist and turns, hoops to jump through, is mans religions, not what God wants. Why make our relationship with the LORD difficult when it is not. If we do Justly, Love Mercy, walk HUMBLY with our God, that is all that is required of us, to please God.

    Do you believe that the Christians in the time of Jesus and all the way into the 1500 century back to the time of Abraham, even had bibles, well they did not have them, and if they did, they could have been killed by the Catholic Church at one time. It troubles me to see people make Gods way hard, when it is not, in fact it is easer to live Gods way then the way of the world or man, IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene

    #356421
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 27 2013,20:51)
    Terricca………I never said that, but if you do what i quoted, that is all you need to truly do , to please God, That's it in a Nut Shell. Making Gods way hard and full of all kind of do and don't , twist and turns, hoops to jump through,  is mans religions, not what God wants. Why make our relationship with the LORD difficult when it is not. If we do Justly, Love Mercy, walk HUMBLY with our God, that is all that is required of us, to please God.

    Do you believe that the Christians in the time of Jesus and all the way into the 1500 century back to the time of Abraham, even had bibles, well they did not have them, and if they did, they could have been killed by the Catholic Church at one time. It troubles me to see people make Gods way hard, when it is not, in fact it is easer to live Gods way then the way of the world or man, IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene


    G

    Quote
    I simple quoted a simple Scripture, What does God require of you O man, but to do “JUSTLY”, and to love “MERCY” and to walk “HUMBLY” with your God.

    1)JUSTLY

    2) MERCY

    3) HUMBLY

    4) WITH YOUR GOD

    now those are your quoted words ,i would like to understand you better were you going and coming from ,

    so could you explain me what is it you understand by those words ,??? please

    #356455
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terricca…….Those are not my words thy are what is written in the bible, Just read the complete sentence and it means exactly what it says. This sentence is easy and  simple to understand Pierre. Why do you try to make it complicated when anyone can easily understand it. Can't you see what your doing here trying find something to argue about. I am done with this just believe what you will Pierre.

    Peace and love to you and your……………………..gene

    #356456
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2013,09:30)
    Terricca…….Just read the complete sentence and it means exactly what it says. This sentence is easy and  simple to understand Pierre. I am done with this just believe what you will Pierre.

    Peace and love to you and your……………………..gene


    Gene

    you now tell me that your understanding of the scriptures stops at what the letter is ??? no insight understanding ,or light,or wisdom,

    do not get me wrong ,this is only what your comment says to me

    #356460
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Tericca………I am not telling you anything about what I understand or not that is you own mind making those ASSUMPTIONS I simply Wrote a simple to understand scripture , you trying to use it to produce an argument and insult my understanding and character. Your usual MO here is coming out again, but I am sure God will deal with you according to your folly.

    Gene

    #356463
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2013,10:13)
    Tericca………I am not telling you anything about what I understand or not that is you own mind making those ASSUMPTIONS  I simply Wrote a simple to understand scripture , you trying to use it to produce an argument and insult my understanding and character. Your usual MO here is coming out again, but I am sure God will deal with you according to your folly.

    Gene


    G

    Why are you so gas up for ? Against me ,I just have ask you a question ,and because you do not answer me ,I respond with what I feel , and now you accuse me of having folly ,???

    I wander if you are still ok ,

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