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Quote (terraricca @ July 23 2013,09:25) Quote (kerwin @ July 23 2013,09:20) Quote (terraricca @ July 23 2013,09:00) Quote (kerwin @ July 23 2013,02:25) T, The Light God created is energy.
I believe the Light of God is righteousness and holiness.
There are different types of light, glory, or any of their synonyms.
Kwhere is the heaven of God
T,It is up but not found in this earth nor in its depths nor its skies.
Kright ,but when God created the galaxies and their individual sun ,
in the beginning where those sun dead (meaning no burning energy)
T,They may have been as Scripture only states he placed lights in the sky.
Quote (kerwin @ July 24 2013,01:43) Quote (terraricca @ July 23 2013,09:25) Quote (kerwin @ July 23 2013,09:20) Quote (terraricca @ July 23 2013,09:00) Quote (kerwin @ July 23 2013,02:25) T, The Light God created is energy.
I believe the Light of God is righteousness and holiness.
There are different types of light, glory, or any of their synonyms.
Kwhere is the heaven of God
T,It is up but not found in this earth nor in its depths nor its skies.
Kright ,but when God created the galaxies and their individual sun ,
in the beginning where those sun dead (meaning no burning energy)
T,They may have been as Scripture only states he placed lights in the sky.
kno, KERWIN,the scriptures are right in what they say ,it is the understanding of men that is not in line with God's words ,
God is light in every sens of the word, but all the stars and suns that where created in the beginning where burning,or not planet where dead ,but active in a way ,
Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
what light does he talks about
i do believe that God was talking about the spectrum of the light as we know it ,with his own speed (speed of light )this creation make perfectly sens to the first verses ,
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.understand that God as not yet make a separation of the waters on earth ;so their was no night or day on earth ,but the foundation were set in the galaxy that this will happen wen he move to more of his creation ,
do you see this
T,
Yes I see.
Scripture states God said ” Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven…” on the forth night and day. I believe there was some of “light” for the angels to “see” the foundations of the earth being laid. That “light” did not come from the Sun, the moons, or the stars.
Quote (kerwin @ July 24 2013,01:43) Quote (terraricca @ July 23 2013,09:25) Quote (kerwin @ July 23 2013,09:20) Quote (terraricca @ July 23 2013,09:00) Quote (kerwin @ July 23 2013,02:25) T, The Light God created is energy.
I believe the Light of God is righteousness and holiness.
There are different types of light, glory, or any of their synonyms.
Kwhere is the heaven of God
T,It is up but not found in this earth nor in its depths nor its skies.
Kright ,but when God created the galaxies and their individual sun ,
in the beginning where those sun dead (meaning no burning energy)
T,They may have been as Scripture only states he placed lights in the sky.
Kwere does it states in scriptures
Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2013,03:30) T, Yes I see.
Scripture states God said ” Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven…” on the forth night and day. I believe there was some of “light” for the angels to “see” the foundations of the earth being laid. That “light” did not come from the Sun, the moons, or the stars.
Kyes ,that light in the first day is the spectrum of the light that later God uses to make the light of day ,understand
Quote (terraricca @ July 25 2013,03:58) Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2013,03:30) T, Yes I see.
Scripture states God said ” Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven…” on the forth night and day. I believe there was some of “light” for the angels to “see” the foundations of the earth being laid. That “light” did not come from the Sun, the moons, or the stars.
Kyes ,that light in the first day is the spectrum of the light that later God uses to make the light of day ,understand
T,I agree.
K
so now going back to Geneses 1 ;in the beginning ; means the beginning of creation ,NOT THE FIRST DAY OF CREATION ON EARTH ;OR FOR THE EARTH RIGHT
Quote (terraricca @ July 25 2013,05:07) K so now going back to Geneses 1 ;in the beginning ; means the beginning of creation ,NOT THE FIRST DAY OF CREATION ON EARTH ;OR FOR THE EARTH RIGHT
T,God had not yet created light, much less made a night and day in the beginning of creation so it was not technically the first night and day.
the true spirit (understanding) is to read the scriptures just as God as given it to us ,and within them the wisdom will tell us how to understand it the way God written it for his righteous ones,
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the scriptures were written the way the are now FOR TWO REASONS ONE TO TEST THE HEART OF MEN ,THE SECOND ONE TO SEPARATE THE TRUE BELIEVERS FROM THE FAKE ONES ,
God works in strange ways ,but he his a light to the true believers this is a fact .
To all……… “The heart is decietfull above all thing , who can know it, I the LORD search the Heart and try the Mind, to give unto each one according to the result of his doing”.
The only one who can make our heart right is God alone, and who shall get the Glory for our Salvation alone. It does not matter who or How he does it , it still is his glory “ALONE”. IMO
peace and nlvoe to you all…………………………………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 03 2013,21:08) To all……… “The heart is decietfull above all thing , who can know it, I the LORD search the Heart and trythe Mind to give unto each one according to the result of his doing”. The only one who can make our heart right is God alone, and who shall get the Glory for our Salvation alone. It does not matter who or How he does it , it still is his glory “ALONE”. IMO
peace and nlvoe to you all…………………………………..gene
GeneIf God search our heart to judge it as we have done, then this mean he does not change us,but judge us for the things we did,
It is us that as to search for him and apply our lives to be obedient to his words,so that we stand pure in his eyes when the judgement comes,
Those who do not search for God and so refuse to obey him will be judged accordingly ,any tree that do not bring good fruits will be burned says Christ,
Terricca………..Your argument is with the Scripture I Quoted, not me. As i have told you before you base your salvation on “YOUR” works, not Gods Work, But here is some more for you to twist, “unless the lord shall build the house the weary builders, toil in “VAIN”, unless the LORD is the cities Shield the Guards maintain a usless watch” And along with that one heres another, I will take out of them the stoney heart and give them a “HEART” of Flesh, and I (GOD” will write my Laws in there inward Parts, and they shall be my people and i will be their God. So who is writing God law in your “heart” you or GOD, if you are the one doing it then, “YOU” get the Glory , If God is the one Doing it, then He gets the Glory, you can't have it both ways Pierre. Perre do you Profess God , but deny the Power thereof. You are not building with Precious Stones or Gold or silver, but with Stubble, wood, straw, and “YOUR WORKS, shall be burned up, but you may still be saved “yet as by FIRE” IMO
peace and love…………………………………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 04 2013,19:38) Terricca………..Your argument is with the Scripture I Quoted, not me. As i have told you before you base your salvation on “YOUR” works, not Gods Work, But here is some more for you to twist, “unless the lord shall build the house the weary builders, toil in “VAIN”, unless the LORD is the cities Shield the Guards maintain a usless watch” And along with that one heres another, I will take out of them the stoney heart and give them a “HEART” of Flesh, and I (GOD” will write my Laws in there inward Parts, and they shall be my people and i will be their God. So who is writing God law in your “heart” you or GOD, if you are the one doing it then, “YOU” get the Glory , If God is the one Doing it, then He gets the Glory, you can't have it both ways Pierre. Perre do you Profess God , but deny the Power thereof. You are not building with Precious Stones or Gold or silver, but with Stubble, wood, straw, and “YOUR WORKS, shall be burned up, but you may still be saved “yet as by FIRE” IMO peace and love…………………………………..gene
gene
you say ;Quote But here is some more for you to twist, “unless the lord shall build the house the weary builders, toil in “VAIN”, unless the LORD is the cities Shield the Guards maintain a usless watch I said ;The love for God 's truth and applying that truth to our lives will be our redemption and safeguard
please show me how of what I have said that it is against the scriptures
Terricca…First “YOU” Say , “The love “FOR” God's truth and “APPLYING” that truth “TO” our lives “WILL be our “REDEMPTION” and SAFEGUARD. Indeed those words have an appearence of rightiousness, but as Jesus said , It's like a white washed Seplicure it indeed looks beautifull on the outside, but inside is full of dead mens bones.
No scripture says what you said. All of that is a MAN MADE SALVATION, a work of SELF. OUR redemmer is Jesus Christ who through the eternal Spirit, gave himself for us. It has nothing to do with “OUR WORKS”. And the “GRACE” Given to us from God the Father is a result of his sacrifice, and that is what saves us.
You make Salvation as a Human Quest, when in fact it is God the Father who aquites us by the blood of Jesus who is the Christ. God the Father see “HIS SACRIFFICE” as our “Justification”, to eternal LIFE, because it satisfies the requirement of the Law of God, by way of payment for our sins, so justice has been served the the death of Jesus as our Kindsman redemmer for the Law of God says a Kndsmen can pay the the debit and Jesus acting as our Kindsmen redemmer, paid it for us and that alone is what delievered us the the eternal death penality by the Judgement of God.
God's Justice was satisfied, “not done away with”, by the payment of Jesus who gave himself in our place as our Kindsman redemmer and paid our eternal death penialty, it has nothing to do with “OUR WORKS”. Because he was without Sin and therefore the only one who clould pay for our sins and meet the requirement of the Law of God.
You need to truly repent and quite trying to establish “yourself” by your “So-Called ” “freewill works”, it will not work. It is by FAITH “IN” THE BLOOD of Jesus, Our Lord and that “ALONE” saves us .
It is God who writes His law in our inward Parts and who has Justified us through His sacrifficed Lamb , Jesus, the Christ. Nothing more and nothing less. Go back and reread ROMANS again and Galatians slowely and think about what Paul has written. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 05 2013,22:28) Terricca…First “YOU” Say , “The love “FOR” God's truth and “APPLYING” that truth “TO” our lives “WILL be our “REDEMPTION” and SAFEGUARD. Indeed those words have an appearence of rightiousness, but as Jesus said , It's like a white washed Seplicure it indeed looks beautifull on the outside, but inside is full of dead mens bones. No scripture says what you said. All of that is a MAN MADE SALVATION, a work of SELF. OUR redemmer is Jesus Christ who through the eternal Spirit, gave himself for us. It has nothing to do with “OUR WORKS”. And the “GRACE” Given to us from God the Father is a result of his sacrifice, and that is what saves us.
You make Salvation as a Human Quest, when in fact it is God the Father who aquites us by the blood of Jesus who is the Christ. God the Father see “HIS SACRIFFICE” as our “Justification”, to eternal LIFE, because it satisfies the requirement of the Law of God, by way of payment for our sins, so justice has been served the the death of Jesus as our Kindsman redemmer for the Law of God says a Kndsmen can pay the the debit and Jesus acting as our Kindsmen redemmer, paid it for us and that alone is what delievered us the the eternal death penality by the Judgement of God.
God's Justice was satisfied, “not done away with”, by the payment of Jesus who gave himself in our place as our Kindsman redemmer and paid our eternal death penialty, it has nothing to do with “OUR WORKS”. Because he was without Sin and therefore the only one who clould pay for our sins and meet the requirement of the Law of God.
You need to truly repent and quite trying to establish “yourself” by your “So-Called ” “freewill works”, it will not work. It is by FAITH “IN” THE BLOOD of Jesus, Our Lord and that “ALONE” saves us .
It is God who writes His law in our inward Parts and who has Justified us through His sacrifficed Lamb , Jesus, the Christ. Nothing more and nothing less. Go back and reread ROMANS again and Galatians slowely and think about what Paul has written. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………………………….gene
geneyou did not use scriptures to show my errors ,
and you do not understand that ALL MEN HAVE RECEIVED THE GRACE OF GOD ” PROVIDING THEY USE IT AND APPLY IT
so what is your beef men
Terricca…….. If you do not know what I said in that post there is absolutely no way you could be converted yet. I have produced so many scriptures backing up what I have said there over and over for years I have quoted them and you say I use no scriptures , you simply are a liar and have no understanding of the truth of GOD in you, as I have said before you simply are a waste of time , and only serve to cloud issues being discussed here and muddy up the waters of truth. IMO
gene
gene
Quote Terricca…First “YOU” Say , “The love “FOR” God's truth and “APPLYING” that truth “TO” our lives “WILL be our “REDEMPTION” and SAFEGUARD. Indeed those words have an appearence of rightiousness, but as Jesus said , It's like a white washed Seplicure it indeed looks beautifull on the outside, but inside is full of dead mens bones. No scripture says what you said
the first commandment and the second that Christ quoted ,ARE BOTH THINGS TO DO TO BE SAVED , BUT FOR IT YOU HAVE TO
BELIEVE THAT GOD EXIST AND THAT HE SEND HIS SON TO SAVE THE MEN THAT BELIEVES IN THEM ;THIS IS WHAT MEN AS TO DO ” BELIEVE AND ACT ON THAT BELIEVE ,” IF NOT YOUR FAITH IS VAIN
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2013,02:10) gene Quote Terricca…First “YOU” Say , “The love “FOR” God's truth and “APPLYING” that truth “TO” our lives “WILL be our “REDEMPTION” and SAFEGUARD. Indeed those words have an appearence of rightiousness, but as Jesus said , It's like a white washed Seplicure it indeed looks beautifull on the outside, but inside is full of dead mens bones. No scripture says what you said
the first commandment and the second that Christ quoted ,ARE BOTH THINGS TO DO TO BE SAVED , BUT FOR IT YOU HAVE TO
BELIEVE THAT GOD EXIST AND THAT HE SEND HIS SON TO SAVE THE MEN THAT BELIEVES IN THEM ;THIS IS WHAT MEN AS TO DO ” BELIEVE AND ACT ON THAT BELIEVE ,” IF NOT YOUR FAITH IS VAIN
Terricca……….Faith that God the Father gives is not in vain, it has produced many things in my life, that has born wittiness to the reality of a living God, my faith was and is not a supposition I created in my own mind by my own human imagination . It is a proven faith by the revaluation of God into my mind and backed up by EVIDENCE actual and real results in real life over and over. I have my EVIDENCES DO you? Or are you simply going by what others say and tell you . As far as salvation goes, it works through the process of revelation given by God the Father Himself, just as Jesus explained to Peter, which I have quoted and posted here many many, times.We are told have you faith? , have it unto yourself. I have my Proofs and evidence and it is not second it is first hand. IMO
Peace and love………………………..gene
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