The spirit

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2013,13:50) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,08:19) Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2013,10:26) gene what you answered me is not found in scriptures ,you came up with it because you do not want to believe the scriptures Pierre, how could you even say such a thing, that doesn't even make sense.   Gene is formulating his understanding of the Scriptures – from the Scriptures – as are we all. What's needed is: “GOD” on the inside – via ~ his HolySpirit, to lead, guide, and direct us unto all understanding. This is my opinion, but I think must of us will agree with it! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Edj My answer to gene is also based on the many years of discussion experience with him, Scriptures are saying ;That God breathed into Adam nostrils ,and gene start to give me : That it was not this but the cell in the body bla,bla,bla, Why is it so difficult to believe in what scriptures says Can,t do .you guys have to add or void some words ,wors you do not have a fundamental reason to do so ,but you ask me to go along with those kind of opinion ,??? My heart beat increases my soul is shaking ,by that question ,that would corrupt the integrity of God,s truth in me, I do understand that it is gene understanding or anyone's ,but let the truth be known ,and God be declared true ,and all men a liar , Your request for the understanding through the holy spirit ,how can you come any close to God,s truth if you do not even believe in what he says to you and us all , the holy spirit his active in those that believe but not in the others . Hi Pierre, You mean like just believing what this verse says: “ye are even my witnesses.  Is there 'a God' beside me? yea,  there is 'no God'; I know not any.” (Isa 44:8) OR IS THAT ONE WE DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

you have a problem and it is the cutting of scriptures ;

Isa 44:6 “This is what the LORD says—
Israel’s King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.
Isa 44:7 Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it.
Let him declare and lay out before me
what has happened since I established my ancient people,
and what is yet to come—
yes, let him foretell what will come.
Isa 44:8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid.
Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago?
You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me?
No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.”

yes true believers are witness of what God as said as predictions and so testify to those things ,BUT DO NOT INVENT WHAT GOD HAD NOT SAID AND MAKE OTHERS BELIEVE THAT IT COMES FROM GOD WHEN IT DID NOT.

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 06 2013,20:04)

Terricca………..Fact is you are one of those who have corrupted scriptures to meet you ignorant beliefs, in a Preexistent Jesus and as EdJ says, it is you who do not believe God meant what he said that there was “NO OTHER GOD Besides HIM” and He “ALONE and BY HIMSELF Created everything, and then you go about accusing others of not believing the word of God like You do, when it is you not believing GOD. When God put  spirit in the man Adam who he formed from the earth and started him to breath, then he became a “LIVING SOUL”.  Do you actually believe just wind in a nostrils of a Man is the only thing that gives him life? How ignorant is that,  Scripture say “LIFE IS “IN” THE BLOOD”,  flesh profits nothing, it is the SPIRIT that Give LIFE ,Because Spirit is also the LIFE working “IN” the BLOOD which is Sustaining Life.  Need Proof ? Job 34:14-15…..> If he (GOD) set his heart upon man, if he (GOD) gather unto “himself” his “SPIRIT” and his (GOD'S) Breath ; “ALL” flesh shall “PERISH” together, and man shall turn again unto dust.   Now just zero in and thnk about those scriptures and you might see what i am saying. You started this subject as a Lamb, but when discussion started you became a Wolf, You have been the accuser of the Brethren every sense you have been Here, and not only me but, many others also, your contentious attitude is always present it seems , You want it to appear as you are warrior for God , when in fact you want people to agree with you and your Dogmas,  not willing or able it seems to convince others, so you start to condemn them. Who made you a Judge of anyones Spirituality? Have you ever thought that you yourself might be wrong in what you think scripture is saying.  Why can't you just stay on subject, instead of getting off and start to accuse and put people down, who disagree with you?  It OK to have a Different opinion then others do , I have no problem with that, but when you start to make it like i don't follow the word of God, as you “THINK” you do, that is quite another issue. You spirituality is not for me to judge nor is mine your to Judge. I just give my opinion, i am not God , neither are YOU, I am still learning and will probably be forever learning. I full well know i don't have “ALL” knowledge and probabely never will either. I am just a learner and hope God will continue to teach me what i need to know. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………………………….gene

GENE

Job 34:14 If it were his intention
and he withdrew his spirit and breath,
Job 34:15 all mankind would perish together
and man would return to the dust.

read the above ;two things are mention SPIRIT AND BREATH

SINS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND EITHER WHAT'S THE USE TO SAY THINGS

‘ Surely, God is with you, and there is none else,
No other God.’ ”
ISA 45:21 “ Declare and set forth your case;
Indeed, let them consult together.
Who has announced this from of old?
Who has long since declared it?
Is it not I, the LORD?
And there is no other God besides Me,
A righteous God and a Savior;
There is none except Me

THIS IS TRUE AND I NEVER DENIED THIS AND WILL STAND BY IT

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca………. Reading above those sctiptures does not change them one bit, Spirit “AND” Breath , why becasue without Spirit you would stop Breathing. Because it is the Spriit that causes you to breath , You seem to be the one who does not undersrand this, not me, and others here, then to deny you say Jesus is a God that is also another lie you as well as Mike profess, Jesus as a God. Only profess him as a “LITTLE” God but never [prodice any scriptures tell us what a “little” god is. No scripture say that at all in all the bible.  You even say Jesus is the Word of God another Lie , Because Godand his words are one and the same no matter what you try to say and we here all know that, you both Change scriptures to meet you own personal Preexistent false interputations.

As i said all you seem to do here is to just accuse others of not understanding scriptures no matter how much you people twist them up to meet you Dogmas.  Haven't you ever wondered why it's just you and Mike who only seem to agree. You and MIke could not be more wrong even if you tried your best to be. You haven't the foggiest Idea of what you are professing. While all the time saying me and others here don't know what wre are saying. You can pump all the Bull you want pierre but we who truly know scriptures know better. IMO

peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 07 2013,08:16)

Terricca………. Reading above those sctiptures does not change them one bit, Spirit “AND” Breath , why becasue without Spirit you would stop Breathing. Because it is the Spriit that causes you to breath , You seem to be the one who does not undersrand this, not me, and then to deny you say Jesus is a God that is also another lie you as well as Mike profess, Jesus as a God.  You even say Jesus is the Word of God another Lie , you both Chang scriptures to meet you own personal Preexistent false teachings.  IMO and other also. As i said all you seem to do here is to just accuse others of not understanding scriptures no matter how much you people twist them up to meet you Dogmas.  Haven't you ever wondered why it's just you and Mike who seem to agree. You and MIke could not be more wrong even if you tried to be. IMO peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

GENE

you should read the book of Job once more time ,may be you would understand what it says ,

but then ,it will not help you, you do not believe it the way it is written anyway.

and also IT IS SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS CHRIST HIS A GOD ,NOT THE FATHER ,JUST A GOD LIKE OTHERS ARE ALSO CALLED GOD IN SCRIPTURES ,BUT THEN YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE IT ,HEY THIS IS YOUR CHOICE NOT MINE .

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca…………Post the Scripture that say Jesus is a GOD. Then i have never seen it, The God i know said He was the ONLY GOD, and even said, he looked and could find not other GOD, and Jesus, I know said, in prayer to that God, for THOU are the ONLY TRUE GOD evedently that is not in you bible or at least not in your mind it appears. You act like you understand scriptures and yet have no idea what they say it appears. You say you also believe what God said, and then in just a few post down you say the oppisit of what he said. Amazing!

peace and love to you and yours……………………………………gene

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2013,12:54)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,10:28) Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2013,13:50) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,08:19) Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2013,10:26) gene what you answered me is not found in scriptures ,you came up with it because you do not want to believe the scriptures Pierre, how could you even say such a thing, that doesn't even make sense.   Gene is formulating his understanding of the Scriptures – from the Scriptures – as are we all. What's needed is: “GOD” on the inside – via ~ his HolySpirit, to lead, guide, and direct us unto all understanding. This is my opinion, but I think must of us will agree with it! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Edj My answer to gene is also based on the many years of discussion experience with him, Scriptures are saying ;That God breathed into Adam nostrils ,and gene start to give me : That it was not this but the cell in the body bla,bla,bla, Why is it so difficult to believe in what scriptures says Can,t do .you guys have to add or void some words ,wors you do not have a fundamental reason to do so ,but you ask me to go along with those kind of opinion ,??? My heart beat increases my soul is shaking ,by that question ,that would corrupt the integrity of God,s truth in me, I do understand that it is gene understanding or anyone's ,but let the truth be known ,and God be declared true ,and all men a liar , Your request for the understanding through the holy spirit ,how can you come any close to God,s truth if you do not even believe in what he says to you and us all , the holy spirit his active in those that believe but not in the others . Hi Pierre, You mean like just believing what this verse says: “ye are even my witnesses.  Is there 'a God' beside me? yea,  there is 'no God'; I know not any.” (Isa 44:8) OR IS THAT ONE WE DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ you have a problem and it is the cutting of scriptures ; Isa 44:6 “This is what the LORD says— Israel’s King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God. Isa 44:7 Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it. Let him declare and lay out before me what has happened since I established my ancient people, and what is yet to come— yes, let him foretell what will come. Isa 44:8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.” yes true believers are witness of what God as said as predictions and so testify to those things ,BUT DO NOT INVENT WHAT GOD HAD NOT SAID AND MAKE OTHERS BELIEVE THAT IT COMES FROM GOD WHEN IT DID NOT.

It's called a “Rhema”, perhaps you should look it up.
Mans Numbers are irrelevant, ask T8, he'll tell ya.

[Ed J]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 07 2013,13:42)

Terricca…………Post the Scripture that say Jesus is a GOD. Then i have never seen it, The God i know said He was the ONLY GOD, and even said, he looked and could find not other GOD,  and  Jesus, I know said, in prayer to that God, for THOU are the ONLY TRUE GOD evedently that is not in you bible or at least not in your mind it appears.  You act like you understand scriptures and yet have no idea what they say it appears.  You say you also believe what God said, and then in just a few post down you say the oppisit of what he said. Amazing! peace and love to you and yours……………………………………gene

Hi Gene,

They got one the says Jesus is “the son of God”:

“Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I'm the Son of God?” (John 10:34-36)

Your brother    
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2013,13:51)

Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2013,12:54) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,10:28) Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2013,13:50) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,08:19) Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2013,10:26) gene what you answered me is not found in scriptures ,you came up with it because you do not want to believe the scriptures Pierre, how could you even say such a thing, that doesn't even make sense.   Gene is formulating his understanding of the Scriptures – from the Scriptures – as are we all. What's needed is: “GOD” on the inside – via ~ his HolySpirit, to lead, guide, and direct us unto all understanding. This is my opinion, but I think must of us will agree with it! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Edj My answer to gene is also based on the many years of discussion experience with him, Scriptures are saying ;That God breathed into Adam nostrils ,and gene start to give me : That it was not this but the cell in the body bla,bla,bla, Why is it so difficult to believe in what scriptures says Can,t do .you guys have to add or void some words ,wors you do not have a fundamental reason to do so ,but you ask me to go along with those kind of opinion ,??? My heart beat increases my soul is shaking ,by that question ,that would corrupt the integrity of God,s truth in me, I do understand that it is gene understanding or anyone's ,but let the truth be known ,and God be declared true ,and all men a liar , Your request for the understanding through the holy spirit ,how can you come any close to God,s truth if you do not even believe in what he says to you and us all , the holy spirit his active in those that believe but not in the others . Hi Pierre, You mean like just believing what this verse says: “ye are even my witnesses.  Is there 'a God' beside me? yea,  there is 'no God'; I know not any.” (Isa 44:8) OR IS THAT ONE WE DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ you have a problem and it is the cutting of scriptures ; Isa 44:6 “This is what the LORD says— Israel’s King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God. Isa 44:7 Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it. Let him declare and lay out before me what has happened since I established my ancient people, and what is yet to come— yes, let him foretell what will come. Isa 44:8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.” yes true believers are witness of what God as said as predictions and so testify to those things ,BUT DO NOT INVENT WHAT GOD HAD NOT SAID AND MAKE OTHERS BELIEVE THAT IT COMES FROM GOD WHEN IT DID NOT. It's called a “Rhema”, perhaps you should look it up. Mans Numbers are irrelevant, ask T8, he'll tell ya.

EDJ

your answer does not stand ,it is meaningless

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca………The only answer that is meanless is yours, Produce you scripture where Jessu said there are other Gods , The only place that even sujests it is what EDJ, quoted, but that scripture only say they were gods to “WHOM THE WORD OF GOD CAME, and is a quote from Plasms and was given in a Possive sense as all who are God's People belong to Him. And can be saidthey are GODS in a Posseve sense. that is the only way it canbe understood and still keep from having a contradiction of scriptures, and the very words of God himself and also Jesus words. For thou art the “ONLY” TRUE GOD Only means there are no other Gods Big or Little. IMO

But see you have all ready corrupted your whole thread buy accusing and getting off track right from the beginning, so this thread has become useless for anyone. IMO

peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene

[Ed J]

Hi Gene,

“I have said, Ye are gods(God's); and all of you are children of the most High.
 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.” (Psalms 82:6-7)

You are right brother, we are “GOD's”, not gods.
Adam was GOD's child, he fell like one of the princes.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2013,20:13)

Hi Gene, “I have said, Ye are gods(God's); and all of you are children of the most High.  But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.” (Psalms 82:6-7) You are right brother, we are “GOD's”, not gods. Adam was GOD's child, he fell like one of the princes. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

so is Satan

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2013,01:13)

Hi Gene, “I have said, Ye are gods(God's); and all of you are children of the most High.  But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.” (Psalms 82:6-7) You are right brother, we are “GOD's”, not gods. Adam was GOD's child, he fell like one of the princes. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ………Yes we are all God's in a possessive sense, in fact Alli creation is God's in that sense. These Trinitarians and Preexistences want us to believe there are other God's because that gives them support of making Jesus a God and transform the Man Jesus into a GOD as spoken of in 2 Ths 2, they change the image of Jesus from a man into a God, and in that sense they create a “MAN OF SIN” spoken of there, it is a LIE about Jesus Being a God >

This transforming of the image of Jesus to a God image, is exactly what Jesus with his own words will destroy at his return by “the breath of his own mouth”, at his return.. These blind guides can not see that, they cant even realize that it is Jesus who is the only one now seated in the Temple of God, who is being displayed as a God , by Trinitarians and Preexistences.

That's who Paul was talking about, not some other person because, it is ONLY Jesus who is “NOW” Seated in the Temple of GOD, no one else is, and it is He who is being displayed as a GOD by these false teachers. not any one else. Blessed are those who can see and understand this brother and i mean truly blessed. These are the one who love the truth the rest have a deluding Spirit sent from God, because they did not recieve the love of the truth God has blinded them. IMO

peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene

[terraricca]

being called a god ,why is people always try to make thing up

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca………You and your Co-harts are the ones saying there are others God not us. There is not one scripture that say there are “LITTLE” gods and “BIG” Gods, There is only ONE TRUE God Period according to my bible. So you own word apply to you it appears. IMO

peace and love to you and yours………………………………..gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 09 2013,19:29)

Terricca………You and your Co-harts are the ones saying there are others God not us. There is not one scripture that say there are “LITTLE” gods and “BIG” Gods, There is only ONE TRUE God Period according to my bible.  So you own word apply to you it appears. IMO peace and love to you and yours………………………………..gene

Gene

for the one hundred time ;IT IS SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS THAT THERE ARE OTHER GODS NOT ME ,OR MIKE ,IT SEEMS YOUR BIBLE DOES NOT COVER THAT ITEM IN IT ?
FIRST UNDERSTAND THIS VERSE ;
“ye are even my witnesses.
Is there 'a God' beside me? yea,
there is 'no God'; I know not any.” (Isa 44:8)

IT MEANS THAT GOD ALMIGHTY AS NO EQUAL AS HE WELL KNOWS IT AND “WE ” ARE WITNESSES TO THAT EFFECT;RIGHT YES

Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.
Ps 136:2 Give thanks to the God of gods.
His love endures forever.
Da 2:47 The king said to Daniel, “Surely your God is the God of gods and the Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, for you were able to reveal this mystery.”

Da 11:36 “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place.

NOW TELL ME HOW CAN GOD ALMIGHTY BE THE GOD OVER ALL OTHER GODS IS THIS NOT CONFIRM ISI 44;8 THAT HE AS NO EQUAL

GET SERIOUS MAN ,

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca……….A God is what you worship and set up in your mind as your God, if it is any thing other then the “TRUE” God, it is a “FALSE” GOD because there is only ONE “TRUE” GOD. So that leaves all others as ONLY “UNTRUE”  GODS, because they are not “TRUE” GODS. They are called by Paul “so-called”, Gods,  there are many of them but to us there is “ONLY” ONE GOD . If you believed Jesus as you say you do, you would understand that, He plainly said “for thou are the “ONLY” “TRUE GOD” , all others are not “TRUE” Gods, but False or “untrue” Gods. As long as you people preach that there are other “TRUE” Gods you are preaching Idolatry.  

Again anything can be a  God to you, that you worship and bow down to and serve.  And Our GOD is the GOD of those all False Gods, that people have made to themselves, and there are many of those and to the person themselves they (ARE THEIR GODS) but to us who are true to the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD,  those are the FALSE Gods of Pagans and false Preachers as Trinitarians and Preexistences. This is an Idolatrous generation.

Anything can be a God to anyone even idols of wood and stone and iron, but are they true Gods NO THEY ARE NOT. It time you get serious and get real instead of following Mike, and his perceptions about other true Gods Existing. Tell us who are these other Gods of yours and Mikes , Pierre, let us know, may be we just overlooked them, so name some for us so we can worship serve those “so-called”, God's of yours and Mike's.

As fare as for me and My family we will worship the “ONLY TRUE GOD” , you people can make all the (so-called Gods) you want to, but remember if you make to yourself another God you must also worship it.

You say Satan is a God do you worship him, or do you worship Moses, or Jesus as God's, and how many other God's do you have Pierre, Check with Mike he might give you more God's then these which i have mention for you to worship, because if you do not worship them then they are “NOT A GOD” to you or anyone else either. IMO

It time you Get serious or God may deal with you foolishness. IMO

peace and love to you and yours…………………………………gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 10 2013,19:47)

Terricca……….A God is what you worship and set up in your mind as your God, if it is any thing other then the “TRUE” God, it is a “FALSE” GOD because there is only ONE “TRUE” GOD. So that leaves all others as ONLY “UNTRUE”  GODS, because they are not “TRUE” GODS. They are called by Paul “so-called”, Gods,  there are many of them but to us there is “ONLY” ONE GOD . If you believed Jesus as you say you do, you would understand that, He plainly said “for thou are the “ONLY” “TRUE GOD” , all others are not “TRUE” Gods, but False or “untrue” Gods. As long as you people preach that there are other “TRUE” Gods you are preaching Idolatry.   Again anything can be a  God to you, that you worship and bow down to and serve.  And Our GOD is the GOD of those all False Gods, that people have made to themselves, and there are many of those and to the person themselves they (ARE THEIR GODS) but to us who are true to the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD,  those are the FALSE Gods of Pagans and false Preachers as Trinitarians and Preexistences. This is an Idolatrous generation. Anything can be a God to anyone even idols of wood and stone and iron, but are they true Gods NO THEY ARE NOT. It time you get serious and get real instead of following Mike, and his perceptions  about other true Gods Existing. Tell us who are these other Gods of yours and Mikes , Pierre, let us know, may be we just overlooked them, so name some for us so we can worship serve those “so-called”, God's of yours and Mike's. As fare as for me and My family we will worship the “ONLY TRUE GOD” , you people can make all the (so-called Gods) you want to, but remember if you make to yourself another God you must also worship it. You say Satan is a God do you worship him, or do you worship Moses, or Jesus as God's, and how many other God's do you have Pierre, Check with Mike he might give you more God's then these which i have mention for you to worship, because if you do not worship them then they are “NOT A GOD” to you or anyone else either. IMO It time you Get serious or God may deal with you foolishness. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………………………gene

gene

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.A God is what you worship and set up in your mind as your God, if it is any thing other then the “TRUE” God, it is a “FALSE” GOD because there is only ONE “TRUE” GOD

the fact that Jehovah the God of creation his the only God that send his son to save us and promise anyone that has faith in him will receive everlasting life,

NOW THIS DOES NOT MAKE ALL OTHER SO CALLED GODS FALSE ;BUT USELESS TO PROVIDE WHAT Jehovah CAN PROVIDE AND FOR THAT REASON IT IS INSANE TO GO AFTER THOSE OTHER GODS ,IF YOU DO CARE FOR YOUR OWN LIVE AND THOSE OF YOUR FAMILY ,

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca………Your getting close , so why not simply say there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD and all others are false Gods, and we will be in accord with one another. Your basically saying the any way. If you believe that there are any other true God's out there tell who they are.

Remember i have alway said anything can be made into a “SO-CALLED” God, but it will Never be a “TRUE” God of anykind, I think you really do believe this from your responses. Seperate youself from all thiose false teachers of other God's, that a bad place to be brother. IMO

peace and love to you and yours………………………………………..gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 11 2013,05:47)

Terricca………Your getting close , so why not simply say there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD and all others are false Gods, and we will be in accord with one another.  Your basically saying the any way. If you believe that there are any other true God's out there tell who they are. Remember i have alway said anything can be made into a “SO-CALLED” God, but it will Never be a “TRUE” God of anykind, I think you really do believe this from your responses. Seperate youself from all thiose false teachers of other God's, that a bad place to be brother.  IMO peace and love to you and yours………………………………………..gene

gene

understand that me and mike never denied that Jehovah his the only true God for whom want to be saved ,NO OTHER HIS LIKE HIM ,

WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT THEIR ARE OTHER GODS OUT THERE NOT SO POWERFUL AND ALSO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT TO JEHOVAH GOD BECAUSE THIS IS WHY SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT HE HIS “THE GOD OF GODS ” WHAT GODS ARE THEY ANY WILL DO,BUT THEY ARE ALL SUBMIT TO JEHOVAH ,EVEN SATAN THE GOD OF THIS WORLD ,AND CHRIST IS MIGHTY (GOD) ALL POWERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO HIM ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN ,WITCH OTHER SO CALLED GOD CAN CLAIM THIS AMOUNT OF POWER AND YET WE KNOW CHRIST IS SUBMIT TO HIS FATHER AND GOD ,

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca……..The God of Gods is not saying there are other “TRUE” Gods, it is saying OUR God is the God of those “FALSE GOD”S”  ,  So what is a “TRUE” God, it is a DIVINE DEITY . There are no other  divine deities but ONE>  

Because it says Satan is the God of this world is saying not that Satan is a true God, but people of this world serve his spirit and therefore follow him, was the point of that statement. Who or what ever you serve is your God, But my God said you are not to bow down to them nor serve them,  And he also said there is NO GOD'S BESIDES HIM, he said he looked for another God and found none, but you people looked and found some. Interesting, God could not find “any”, but You and Mike find all kinds of Gods.  So who are we going to believe Our true God, or you false teachers who go about creating other Gods.  

All trinitarians and preexistences must have other God's  in order to meet there false teachings about Jesus in John 1:1 and if you understood 2Ths2 you would understand that it is talking about Jesus, who is being “displayed” as a God. This is a False teaching about Jesus, which Jesus himself will abloish with his very own words, when he returns.

As i have said anything can be a God to anyone, if you let it be, but none of that makes those false imaginary Gods a “TRUE” God. I believe as God the Father and Jesus and Paul said , though there be  many “SO-CALLED” God's, but unto US (true believers ) there is BUT “ONE” GOD>  So make all the God's you want like you co-hart Mike , but you will both dealt with  for this. IMO

peace and love ……………………………….gene

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