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Terricca……….Do you actually believe I don't know what those words mean , do you think i am so stupid, as to not know what words in my own language mean. I sorry for getting offended by you commit, but if you truly do not understand what these words mean I will give you their meanings, if you need me to, but not for the purpose of arguing with you. I realize you have a problem with the English language. So if you ask me politely, I will gladly give you there meanings . But a dictionary would work just as good. IMO
Peace and love………………………..gene
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 26 2013,09:16) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2013,04:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2013,12:20) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,20:30) Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God. Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey. Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene
genetheir are many reasons why people do things ,even do the action remain the same the motives may not be the same ,
Christ says : do you think that the wicked gives stones to their children
no,Gene, they give the best they can have ,and so as well to their family ,but does the wicked serves God I do not think so ,what about you
Terricca………Jesus said this , if “YOU” BEING EVIL “KNOW ” how to give GOOD GIFTS to your Children , how much more will your Heavenly Father give them of the Spirit “THAT ASK” . Good is good no matter what the intent of the Heart of the giver, which by the way, only GOD knows, but if the receiver has received GOOD IT IS GOOD NO MATTER WHAT, So why have and “EVIL EYE”, casting EVIL intents when you “DON'T KNOW”. Be happy that there is any Good ANYWHERE being done by anyone for any reason.You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving. That is because the World has taught you to Judge that way. Why ascribe EVIL when you have no Idea what the heart of a giver is like? I have also done this in the past, but I try not to do it anymore, I will let the LORD make that CALL, if I am not sure, seeing He alone JUDGES THE HEARTS of Men, and therefore knows the reasons they do what they. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
Gene B.Not so: Its good for the receiver only, but not good for
the giver. Giving for some personal gain. Thats called bribing. Just like sacrificing lame sheep to God because you want to get rid of it. This is an abomination.
Assuming God does not know.Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for **ye pay tithe** of *mint and anise and cummin*, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Paying tithes to the church,but never improving spiritually.
Still hanging on to the spirit of babylon .
No one can pay his way to heaven.wakeup.
Wakeup…..Why ascribe “ANY” Evil when you do not know the intent of the Heart of the Giver. We have become so conditioned to seeing EVIL in everything , we ascribe it when we don't even Know if the intent of the givers heart is Evil or not and good is still done no matter if the heart of the giver is Evil, As the scripture i quoted plainly shows , your argument is with what Jesus said not me, i simply quoted his words. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2013,20:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 26 2013,09:16) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2013,04:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2013,12:20) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,20:30) Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God. Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey. Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene
genetheir are many reasons why people do things ,even do the action remain the same the motives may not be the same ,
Christ says : do you think that the wicked gives stones to their children
no,Gene, they give the best they can have ,and so as well to their family ,but does the wicked serves God I do not think so ,what about you
Terricca………Jesus said this , if “YOU” BEING EVIL “KNOW ” how to give GOOD GIFTS to your Children , how much more will your Heavenly Father give them of the Spirit “THAT ASK” . Good is good no matter what the intent of the Heart of the giver, which by the way, only GOD knows, but if the receiver has received GOOD IT IS GOOD NO MATTER WHAT, So why have and “EVIL EYE”, casting EVIL intents when you “DON'T KNOW”. Be happy that there is any Good ANYWHERE being done by anyone for any reason.You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving. That is because the World has taught you to Judge that way. Why ascribe EVIL when you have no Idea what the heart of a giver is like? I have also done this in the past, but I try not to do it anymore, I will let the LORD make that CALL, if I am not sure, seeing He alone JUDGES THE HEARTS of Men, and therefore knows the reasons they do what they. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
Gene B.Not so: Its good for the receiver only, but not good for
the giver. Giving for some personal gain. Thats called bribing. Just like sacrificing lame sheep to God because you want to get rid of it. This is an abomination.
Assuming God does not know.Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for **ye pay tithe** of *mint and anise and cummin*, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Paying tithes to the church,but never improving spiritually.
Still hanging on to the spirit of babylon .
No one can pay his way to heaven.wakeup.
Wakeup…..Why ascribe “ANY” Evil when you do not know the intent of the Heart of the Giver. We have become so conditioned to seeing EVIL in everything , we ascribe it when we don't even Know if the intent of the givers heart is Evil or not and good is still done no matter if the heart of the giver is Evil, As the scripture i quoted plainly shows , your argument is with what Jesus said not me, i simply quoted his words. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene
geneRo 16:17 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
Ro 16:18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
Ro 16:19 Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I am full of joy over you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil.For such people are not serving our Lord Christ
do you understand this scriptures
Terricca……I understand those scriptures perfectly, but what has that got to do with what I said and posted from scriptures. None of that changes what is Good done by anyone who does it, and If there is an EVIL intent behind how can we know are we now able to know the heart of the one doing the good. Have we now become Gods to Judge and condemn others simply because we ourselves have an “EVIL EYE” ?.
I will leave that to GOD to JUDGE the motives of the HEART of a person who did the GOOD deed.The heart is deceitful above all things, who can know it, I the “LORD” search the “HEART” and try the “MIND”, to give unto each person according to the results of their doing.
Pierre it's not good to have an EVIL EYE, it only leads to an ACCUSATORY SPIRIT. Remember when the apostles told Jesus, there was a man casting out demon in the mane of Jesus and they rebuked him? , what was Jesus' answer , did he not tell the to leave him alone because no one could use his name and speak lightly of him and if he was on his side he was not against them. You see there eyes saw EVIL in what the man was doing, but Jesus saw Good, because his eye was not evil.
Are we not told to even “LOVE OUR ENEMIES and to do GOOD to those who DESPITEFULLY use us and say all manor of evil things against us.”
Peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 31 2013,11:19) Terricca……I understand those scriptures perfectly, but what has that got to do with what I said and posted from scriptures. None of that changes what is Good done by anyone who does it, and If there is an EVIL intent behind how can we know are we now able to know the heart of the one doing the good. Have we now become Gods to Judge and condemn others simply because we ourselves have an “EVIL EYE” ?.
I will leave that to GOD to JUDGE the motives of the HEART of a person who did the GOOD deed.The heart is deceitful above all things, who can know it, I the “LORD” search the “HEART” and try the “MIND”, to give unto each person according to the results of their doing.
Pierre it's not good to have an EVIL EYE, it only leads to an ACCUSATORY SPIRIT. Remember when the apostles told Jesus, there was a man casting out demon in the mane of Jesus and they rebuked him? , what was Jesus' answer , did he not tell the to leave him alone because no one could use his name and speak lightly of him and if he was on his side he was not against them. You see there eyes saw EVIL in what the man was doing, but Jesus saw Good, because his eye was not evil.
Are we not told to even “LOVE OUR ENEMIES and to do GOOD to those who DESPITEFULLY use us and say all manor of evil things against us.”
Peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene
geneQuote You see there eyes saw EVIL in what the man was doing, but Jesus saw Good, because his eye was not evil. this is your deduction ,but is your deduction true and right
tell me HOW DO YOU SEE EVIL IN THEIR EYES BY WHAT THEY SAY OR DONE
Quote Pierre it's not good to have an EVIL EYE, it only leads to an ACCUSATORY SPIRIT. Remember when the apostles told 2Ti 3:12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,
2Ti 3:13 while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
2Ti 3:14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it,
2Ti 3:15 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.2Ti 3:2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good,
2Ti 3:4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—
2Ti 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
2Ti 3:6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires,
2Ti 3:7 always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.did PAUL AD AN EVIL EYE WHEN HE SAYS THOSE THINGS
GENE ,I DO NOT ACCUSE ANYONE IT IS THE SCRIPTURES THE WRITTEN WORDS OF GOD THAT ACCUSE ANY MEN THAT NOT FOLLOWS THE TRUTH AND THAT HE SAYS ,HE DOES ,Terricca……..You have drifted into a complete different subject, What i am saying if you see a person “DOING GOOD” why impute EVIL to HIM? That is what having an EVIL EYE MEANS in English, you always are seeing Evil in ever thing you see or hear.
Here is something else Paul said……> Phi 4:8 … Finely Bretheren whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are of a “GOOD REPORT” , if there be “ANY VIRTUE”, and if there be “ANY PRAISE” “THINK” ON “THESE THINGS”. Evil eyed people don't do that, IMO , they only hunt to find something Evil to say about what the hear or see.
Pro 15:30….> The light of the eyes rejoices the heart: and a GOOD REPORT” makes fat the bones.
Pro 15:31-32… The ear that hears the reproof of life abides among the wise (32) He that refuses instruction despises his own soul: but he that hears reproof “GETS UNDERSTANDING”.
Jesus also said, You will be Judged in the manor in which you judge, and blessed are the merciful for they shall recieve mercy. We all will bring on us the very way we are, and if you attribute EVIL to everything, it shall be rebounded to you. IMO , but if we are merciful we shall recieve Mercy we are told by Jesus also.
Nothing seems to me to be so asinine as so called “religious” people, who go around attributing EVIL to everything they see. Preaching as if they themselves have no Evil in them but, seem to be able to “accuse” others and attribute EVIL to them, but never themselves. Like the Pharisees who went around accusing others all the time of trespassing the Law, they did appear RELIGIOUS on the outside, but Jesus called them HYPOCRITES, and BLIND GUIDES, white washed Sepulchers full of DEAD Mens Bones. So it is today with this Evil and ungodly generation, especially those who see evil in everything, EXCEPT THEMSELVES OF COURSE> IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 31 2013,21:20) Terricca……..You have drifted into a complete different subject, What i am saying if you see a person “DOING GOOD” why impute EVIL to HIM? That is what having an EVIL EYE MEANS in English, you always are seeing Evil in ever thing you see or hear. Here is something else Paul said……> Phi 4:8 … Finely Bretheren whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are of a “GOOD REPORT” , if there be “ANY VIRTUE”, and if there be “ANY PRAISE” “THINK” ON “THESE THINGS”. Evil eyed people don't do that, IMO , they only hunt to find something Evil to say about what the hear or see.
Pro 15:30….> The light of the eyes rejoices the heart: and a GOOD REPORT” makes fat the bones.
Pro 15:31-32… The ear that hears the reproof of life abides among the wise (32) He that refuses instruction despises his own soul: but he that hears reproof “GETS UNDERSTANDING”.
Jesus also said, You will be Judged in the manor in which you judge, and blessed are the merciful for they shall recieve mercy. We all will bring on us the very way we are, and if you attribute EVIL to everything, it shall be rebounded to you. IMO , but if we are merciful we shall recieve Mercy we are told by Jesus also.
Nothing seems to me to be so asinine as so called “religious” people, who go around attributing EVIL to everything they see. Preaching as if they themselves have no Evil in them but, seem to be able to “accuse” others and attribute EVIL to them, but never themselves. Like the Pharisees who went around accusing others all the time of trespassing the Law, they did appear RELIGIOUS on the outside, but Jesus called them HYPOCRITES, and BLIND GUIDES, white washed Sepulchers full of DEAD Mens Bones. So it is today with this Evil and ungodly generation, especially those who see evil in everything, EXCEPT THEMSELVES OF COURSE> IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………………………gene
gQuote Terricca……..You have drifted into a complete different subject, What i am saying if you see a person “DOING GOOD” why impute EVIL to HIM? That is what having an EVIL EYE MEANS in English, you always are seeing Evil in ever thing you see or hear. this is not of my doing ,this is far away of what i ever done ,but yes that expression means what you say ,;like i told you before i don't know you on a personal base so what I read is what i assume is you ,and you also can see me through those eyes ,and on that we are having a conversation ,no more no less, by the scriptures being the judge of our understanding of truth ,God's truth .
SPEAKING ,GOD'S TRUTH ,MEANS YOU ARE TALKING TO INFORM OTHERS OF WHAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED AND IS WRITTEN IN THE SCRIPTURES ,THE JOY OF THE GOSPEL COMPELS YOU TO DO THAT ,THIS IS THE GOOD WORK,
IF YOU DO THE ABOVE BUT BRING INTO CONSIDERATION YOUR OWN VIEWS AND UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED AND SAID ,OR MODIFIED ,TO MAKE IT BETTER TO THE EARS OF THE HEARERS ,THIS IS NOT GOOD WORKS
IT WOULD MAKE NO DIFFERENCE IF YOU WOULD HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ACCEPTING IT ;YOU STILL WOULD BE A LIAR;
IT IS BETTER FOR YOU TO SAY NOTHING THAN DISTRIBUTE LIES,
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 11 2013,06:31) Terricca……..when are you going to start to take your own advice? Gene
bye,bye ,bye geneQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 30 2013,01:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 26 2013,09:16) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2013,04:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2013,12:20) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,20:30) Wakeup……….More might be serving God then you think, if a man or women goes to work and takes care of their family are they serving God, if a man or women takes care of their father and mother in their old age is he serving God, if he or she takes what is theirs and gives it to the poor are they serving God, if a man or a woman helps there Neighbor are they serving God, if they go and visit a sick person are they serving God, if they give food to the hungry is he or she serving God, if a man or woman visits a person in prison is he or she serving God. If a person takes care of their animals are they serving God. Is a Police officer servant of God, if not why does it say they are placed there by God. Same with Judges and other officials, we are told to respect and obey. Mic 6:8…..> He has shown you, O man, what is good, and what does the LORD “require of you”, but to “do justly”, and to “love mercy”, and to “walk humbly” with your God.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene
genetheir are many reasons why people do things ,even do the action remain the same the motives may not be the same ,
Christ says : do you think that the wicked gives stones to their children
no,Gene, they give the best they can have ,and so as well to their family ,but does the wicked serves God I do not think so ,what about you
Terricca………Jesus said this , if “YOU” BEING EVIL “KNOW ” how to give GOOD GIFTS to your Children , how much more will your Heavenly Father give them of the Spirit “THAT ASK” . Good is good no matter what the intent of the Heart of the giver, which by the way, only GOD knows, but if the receiver has received GOOD IT IS GOOD NO MATTER WHAT, So why have and “EVIL EYE”, casting EVIL intents when you “DON'T KNOW”. Be happy that there is any Good ANYWHERE being done by anyone for any reason.You are I error because you as do many So-Called Christian , judge without even knowing the HEART of the person doing the Giving. That is because the World has taught you to Judge that way. Why ascribe EVIL when you have no Idea what the heart of a giver is like? I have also done this in the past, but I try not to do it anymore, I will let the LORD make that CALL, if I am not sure, seeing He alone JUDGES THE HEARTS of Men, and therefore knows the reasons they do what they. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
Gene B.Not so: Its good for the receiver only, but not good for
the giver. Giving for some personal gain. Thats called bribing. Just like sacrificing lame sheep to God because you want to get rid of it. This is an abomination.
Assuming God does not know.Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for **ye pay tithe** of *mint and anise and cummin*, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Paying tithes to the church,but never improving spiritually.
Still hanging on to the spirit of babylon .
No one can pay his way to heaven.wakeup.
Wakeup…..Why ascribe “ANY” Evil when you do not know the intent of the Heart of the Giver. We have become so conditioned to seeing EVIL in everything , we ascribe it when we don't even Know if the intent of the givers heart is Evil or not and good is still done no matter if the heart of the giver is Evil, As the scripture i quoted plainly shows , your argument is with what Jesus said not me, i simply quoted his words. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene
GeneB.The parent's gift to the children is because they love
their children.
Evil parents can give good gifts to their children.
They are still evil *in God's eyes*, despite the giving.If someone give gifts for personal gain,that gift is not considered good *in God's eyes*.
If the giving is from the heart,its considered a good deed.Dont forget only God knows the heart.
Not all gifts are good **IN GOD'S EYES**.Even the receiver can sometimes know that the kindness
is for a certain reason. Not for the sake of being good.
but for different reasons.wakeup.
G
IN ONE WAY ;what wakeup is saying is you can not judge people by their actions only ;look at what Jesus says about the the poor widow where one of the apostles told him ,she can keep that type of change ;but Jesus was not focused on the gesture or amount but consider them both ;and said she add given more than the others ;why
because she gives from what she needed to live her self while the others where given of their excess or surplus, and so it was MORE HARDER TO DO FOR HER THAN IT WAS FOR THE OTHERS AND IN THIS HER GIFT WAS MORE WORTHY THAN THE ONE OF THE OTHERS ,AND THAT WAS THE POINT ;WHAT WE SEE MAY NOT BE ALWAYS WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE ;
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2013,03:43) G IN ONE WAY ;what wakeup is saying is you can not judge people by their actions only ;look at what Jesus says about the the poor widow where one of the apostles told him ,she can keep that type of change ;but Jesus was not focused on the gesture or amount but consider them both ;and said she add given more than the others ;why
because she gives from what she needed to live her self while the others where given of their excess or surplus, and so it was MORE HARDER TO DO FOR HER THAN IT WAS FOR THE OTHERS AND IN THIS HER GIFT WAS MORE WORTHY THAN THE ONE OF THE OTHERS ,AND THAT WAS THE POINT ;WHAT WE SEE MAY NOT BE ALWAYS WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE ;
Thank you Terra,thats exactly it.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 21 2013,08:32) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2013,03:43) G IN ONE WAY ;what wakeup is saying is you can not judge people by their actions only ;look at what Jesus says about the the poor widow where one of the apostles told him ,she can keep that type of change ;but Jesus was not focused on the gesture or amount but consider them both ;and said she add given more than the others ;why
because she gives from what she needed to live her self while the others where given of their excess or surplus, and so it was MORE HARDER TO DO FOR HER THAN IT WAS FOR THE OTHERS AND IN THIS HER GIFT WAS MORE WORTHY THAN THE ONE OF THE OTHERS ,AND THAT WAS THE POINT ;WHAT WE SEE MAY NOT BE ALWAYS WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE ;
Thank you Terra,thats exactly it.wakeup.
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