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Quote A place to let members know about you, what you believe, and your interests. It could include links to Facebook etc. I can see at least 4 ways to use this forum.
- A member starts up a page about them and allows others to comment.
- A member starts up a page about them and doesn't allow others to comment. Instead he/she asks the admin to close the topic for updates.
- A member links his member page from his Member Profile page using the Home Page option.
- A member starts up a discussion based on another member. It could be about what you find frustrating about them or what you like about them.
This would hopefully bring some accountability, and help foster some understanding about each other as that seems to be lacking somewhat.
It would also hopefully stop these kinds of conversations from taking place in unrelated topics.Feel free to add other ideas.
NOTE: This post has changed. Above are the rules to the old Forum format which was called “Member Profiles”.This forum has since been renamed to “The Hot Seat”.
The reason is that it now also caters for those who dodge a question consistently in other topics. You can now create a topic where you ask the avoided question here, and if the member in question further ignores the question, then we can assume that he/she doesn't know the answer. This is assuming of course that the member has been notified that they have been taken to task. You can notify them by posting the link in a discussion that you are currently having with them, or by other methods such as email, PM, etc.
This forum is still the place to post about yourself and your beliefs, but think of it as putting yourself in the Hot Seat as you will open yourself up to questions about what you believe. The idea behind this is to encourage accountability.
Unlike before however, anyone can participate if they have posting rights. Non-reply topics are out. It is not called the Hot Seat for nothing.
NOTE: Members who avoid questions on the Hot Seat can be tiled. If this happens, just report the post in the usual way to a moderator. The moderators will determine if the question is fair.
It should be noted that “I don't know” is an acceptable answer to a question.
A member who is tiled, and then answers the question later, can ask for their tile to be removed.
Even better than Coronation Street. Yes entertaining when people avoid questions and then have to answer or receive a pretty tile. Will they answer the question or take the tile. The suspense can get too much though.
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 11 2013,22:03) Even better than Coronation Street. Yes entertaining when people avoid questions and then have to answer or receive a pretty tile. Will they answer the question or take the tile. The suspense can get too much though.
As the story goes, the Baptists of Danbury in Connecticut wrote to Thomas Jefferson expressing their fear of persecution and desire to live in peace. Whose persecution did they fear?They feared persecution by the Congregationalists of Danbury, Connecticut.
Just like christianity, and the usual attitudes of christians towards other christians of fractionally different approaches, punishing people for not answering questions (who is to judge whether an answer has really been furnished or not?) is fascist.
But then christianity is essentially a totalitarian fascist belief system, so I guess it's consistent.
In a proper debate it is up to the participants to highlight when they think a question has not been answered and to make that a point for the benefit of others reading the interchange. The christian version isn't satisfied merely with discourse that might highlight the problems in some arguments, it requires punishments too.
My family sent people to Europe and other places to fight against fascist totalitarian aggression, but here we have a website promoting it in the name of religious discussion.
It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragically inept.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,
I'm happy just to expose those who refuse to answer my questions, like Jammin.
Here is a list of “FIVE QUESTIONS” that Jammin has staunchly refused to answer. (Link)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2013,01:39) My family sent people to Europe and other places to fight against fascist totalitarian aggression, but here we have a website promoting it in the name of religious discussion. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragically inept.
Stuart
Oh yes, expecting an answer from someone when you ask them an intelligent question about their view is akin to what Adolph Hitler did.
Anything else you would like to add?
Would Hitlers actions be considered 'evilution by natural selection', Stuart? …just wondering what your view was?
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 12 2013,13:18) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2013,01:39) My family sent people to Europe and other places to fight against fascist totalitarian aggression, but here we have a website promoting it in the name of religious discussion. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragically inept.
Stuart
Oh yes, expecting an answer from someone when you ask them an intelligent question about their view is akin to what Adolph Hitler did. Anything else you would like to add?
It's not the expectation of an answer that's in question, it's the punishment aspect that is totalitarian and fascist, as I was at pains to point out.I've expected intelligent answers from you in the past and have received none. Should I expect to start getting answers from you now you are punishing people if they don't?
I won't be holding my breath.
Stuart
Ha ha. No intelligent answers says the man who cannot even demonstrate which foundation by which everything came. Someone eternal, something eternal, or eternal nothing.
If you can't answer that, then all else is vanity Stu. Because no matter what you suggest, if it is on the wrong foundation, then it cannot stand.
When you can answer that, then I will discuss with you on the next level. Until then, you will be stuck in the Valley of Decision.
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2013,20:34) It's not the expectation of an answer that's in question, it's the punishment aspect that is totalitarian and fascist, as I was at pains to point out.
Oooh yes, I see what you mean about the punishment aspect.Could ring up Help Line and tell them that you got tiled. They would be outraged.
Actually what a tile is, is a piece of technology. When 5 or so are applied, the user loses posting rights.
So it is a technical solution to a problem where people make outrageous claims, and then will not answer reasonable questions about those claims. Note the word “reasonable”.
And guess what? If the person answers the question, then the tile is removed. And everyone is happy.
I can understand that you may be upset, because it makes it harder for you to avoid questions of which there are many.
But I think it is the right direction to lessen this sort of thing.
If you are in a forum and if you are in a debate or are asked a direct question here, then an answer is expected.
If you cannot answer questions, then you shouldn't be here because that is one half of the purpose of the forum and debates.
So harden up a little Stu. This is not a world of daises and unicorns. Have you seen my avatar. It is a war.
Stop sniveling lad.
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2013,20:34) We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes – Gene Roddenberry
Stu, God doesn't punish people for mistakes. He punishes sin.Sin is really just living the way that God intended us not to. It is the opposite way.
And why is an opposite way even possible?
Because there has to be a choice for every person as to whether they love God or not. Love requires choice.
If you love God you will live his way.
If you don't love him, you will live in sin.And the outcome is what is expected.
A sinner doesn't get eternal life with a God that he hates.
And we live for all eternity with the God who is love.That is fair. Or would you prefer that God forces all men to live with him forever even though they don't like him?
You need to think with more depth about things Stu.
Your statements and questions are that of a grumbling child.
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 15 2013,21:59) Ha ha. No intelligent answers says the man who cannot even demonstrate which foundation by which everything came.
What is a foundation?Is it like the firmament, a solid beaten thing described in Genesis, that NASA has never crashed into?
Maybe I should ask you the question. On what “foundation” (whatever that means) did “everything come about”?
Don't forget that I have explained how we come to have matter and energy, and that explanation is entirely consistent with evidence, and has made testable predictions that have been demonstrated (for example Eddington's observations of the 1919 eclipse, and the background cosmic microwave radiation, amongst many other greatest hits of science).
So, can you answer your own question as well? Or are you just full of hypocritical platitudes and poor analogies again?
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 15 2013,22:13) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 12 2013,20:34) We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes – Gene Roddenberry
Stu, God doesn't punish people for mistakes. He punishes sin.Sin is really just living the way that God intended us not to. It is the opposite way.
And why is an opposite way even possible?
Because there has to be a choice for every person as to whether they love God or not. Love requires choice.
If you love God you will live his way.
If you don't love him, you will live in sin.And the outcome is what is expected.
A sinner doesn't get eternal life with a God that he hates.
And we live for all eternity with the God who is love.That is fair. Or would you prefer that God forces all men to live with him forever even though they don't like him?
You need to think with more depth about things Stu.
Your statements and questions are that of a grumbling child.
Let's pretend for a minute that your abominable Imaginary Friend actually exists. Then it have me a conscience I guess. I used that conscience to see that it is an evil fascist dictator. That means the most moral action I can do, according to my conscience, and I'd suggest according to the conscience of anyone not afflicted by dedication to evil dictators, is to oppose it.As it is, I generally ignore it because it's not really there. But again, pretending it is, what is it's response to my free choice?
It would punish me in some way, apparently not handing out the sweeties that it gives to those who follow its evil ways.
So, therefore if it were to exist, it qualifies as a fascist dictator. At the very least it is totalitarian (how do you get to god? Only one way, apparently!).
I'm nothing special, but by the conscience this god gave me, it is not worthy of judging me. See the Jewish bible for the “evidence”.
Atheism is much more straightforward t8, because one doesn't have to think about such silly non-existent scenarios.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 16 2013,08:58) What is a foundation?
Enough said.Please don't attempt to build a house.
Step away from the hammer.Quote (Stu @ Jan. 16 2013,09:07) Let's pretend for a minute that your abominable Imaginary Friend actually exists.
Shall we also pretend that you exist too?Quote (Stu @ Jan. 16 2013,06:07) Atheism is much more straightforward t8, because one doesn't have to think about such silly non-existent scenarios. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Yea, it is much easier for Atheists to let fools guide them,
then for them to contemplate the evidence for themselves.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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