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T8 ……If you believe the word ELOHIM MEANS GOD, and if you say a earthquake, city, people, angels, can be ELOHIM’S, THEN YOU ARE SAYING THEY “ARE” GODS, right? Or am i missing something here? ARE YOU SAYING THE WORD CAN MEAN SOMETHING ELSE? If you are, please tell me what that something else is, And where do you get that different meaning from. We are dealing with a single word here or are we not?
peace and love to you and yours. ………………….gene
Nick……Yes “ONE” TRUE GOD. WE ARE IN AGREEMENT ON THIS BROTHER.
peace and love to you and yours………….gene
Gene,
It seems you do not want to answer my question. Let that be your answer and let it be placed on record.
Kerwin……I have answered it even using you dictionary definition, go back and reread it , remember the defibition of supreme value? I wrote about, so show u where those things you call gods are of “SUPREME” VALUE, the word supreme means over all else, or it would not be SUPREME , now would it?
End of descussion, i am tired of bouncing this ball around and going no where with you, believe in all the other gods you chose to that ok with me, I ONLY HAVE “ONE” GOD i believe in. So let that go on record OK.
peace and love to you and yours………..gene
Gene,
I read your posts and did not discern the answer so could you please make it clearer to me by either saying yes there are more than one definition for the English word god just as Merriam-Webster and other dictionaries claim or saying no, there is not. Thank you.Kerwin…….read what i wrote right after your post on the dicitionay definition. You next post just buldosed ove what i said as if you did not even consider it. GO BACK AND REREAD IT AND THIS TIME THINK ABOUT WHAT I WAS SAYING, OK.
peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene
Kerwin…… The KEY IS THE WORD “SUPREME” VALUE. What does that meanto you?
peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene
Gene,
You gave a dictionary definition of god as a person or thing of supreme value, that might be closser to what i am saying. It must have “supreme” value. When a person places supreme value in something, he or she is giving it the SUPREME position in tbeir minds Right? So that object could represent a god to them “only” nottoanyone else that does not place that SUPREME VALUE ON IT, it to them would not be a god it would be a false god to them right?
I believe this is what you are speaking about though it does not answer my question, which is whether you agree with dictionaries that the English word god has more than one definition.
You are trying is the same as another one that days thee definition is the Almighty or yet one more that says it can be used to mean the gods of other people. When it is used to mean supreme value it is speaking of relative position. For example, the children of Israel were superior to those that did not have the Law of Moses as the result of Jehovah giving them the Law. Elsewhere Scripture states man was created a little lower than the gods. It is speaking of our relationship to the angels.
Kerwin……Yes GOD is a relative term, so we agree on that, but you say those relitave terms can represent a “true” GOD, AS IT MIGHT TO THOSE CONNECTED that way to that object , but is it a “true GOD Then in reality? , “NO” IT IS NOT TO ME OR GOD THE FATHER OR Jesus Christ. It is a “false” or untrue GOD. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours. …………………gene
Gene,
God is absolutely supreme to all others.
My point is and that god has more than one definition and it is wisest to discern what is mean by it or any other word in Scripture.
Kerwin……NO he is not supreme to all other “gods” , because he said he looked for other gods and found “none”, SO THERE ARE NOT ANY OTHER GOD’S AT ALL, but you guys FIND all kind of what you believe are “true” gods, according to your words, but JESUS SAID THAT GOD THE FATHER IS THE “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, HE DID NOT SAY GOD WAS a supreme GOD, BUT THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD. Now if i say there is “only” one true , that means all others are “FALSE” GOD’S, no matter who say they are really GOD’S. It’s not the meaning of the wrod that is different , it’s how it is being applied, is it in a “TRUE” SENSE OR A “FALSE” SENSE. If it is being used to imply another “TRUE” GOD THEN TO ME THAT IS A “UNTRUE” STATEMENT.
KERWIN, look i am OK with believing that there is only one true God, and all other “so called God’s are false God’s To me that is. You canbelieve in s many other god’s as you choose to. I am done with this subject believe as you will.
peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene
Gene,
When Moses literally state that Jehovah your god is god is god of gods then he is literally stating that God is superior to gods. According to your teaching that can only mean that Jehovah is superior to other deities. That interpretation you allow if you refuse to admit the word god has other meaning than Jehovah kind. So by your chose refusal you are inferring that Scripture declares their is more than one of Jehovah’s kind while at the same time denying it with your mouth.
I have neither said nor implied that their is more than one of Jehovah’s kind as my mouth has not said it, nor my hands typed it, and unlike you I acknowledge the word god means more that Jehovah kind.
You act like one that has had a shock to their worldview and does not want to face that which caused the shock. You must get beyond it to progress.
Gene,
Please show me one word where Moses states the gods Jehovah is god of are false gods. It is not there. Your will not even find the words “so called”. If you chooses to add it then you are adding to the Law. Beware of doing such things.
Kerwin……COMON SENSE 101…..if that God who said he looked for other gods and found “NONE” THAT LEAVESONLY ONE OTHER OPTION THOSE gods of the other nations are “FALSE” GOD’S. IF Jesus in PRAYER said “THOU ARE THE ONLY “TRUE” GOD, THEN ALL OTHERS ARE “not’ “TRUE” GOD’S. My question to you is why not believe JESUS AND GOD THE FATHER, even if you reject what i say?
Look i am done with this, tired of going around and around with you, BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT, TO ME THERE EXISTS “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD. I am fine believing that, believe as you will.
peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
Gene,
The fact you did not show me leads me to believe you realize it is not there. In short you are not going by Scripture but instead by what is in your mind.
Nick……Is this my mouth or the Fathers mouth speaking.
Isa 44:6….Thus says the LORD the King of Isreal, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last, and “BESIDE ME”, THERE IS “NO” GOD.
Isa 44:8….Fear you not, neither be afraid: have not I told you from that time, and have declared it? You are my witnesses. Is there a God, “BESIDE ME”? YEA THERE IS “NO” GOD; I (God) KNOW “NOT ANY”.
Nick is that “MY” LOGIC putting, “my words”, in the FATHERS MOUTH or the FATHERS words?
Jesus said about the FATHER, THIS, FOR “YOU” ARE THE “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD.
Nick is that also my logic, putting words in JESUS’ mouth there to? , because I stand ferm on what the FATHER AND JESUS SAY. Those words have nothing to do with “MY” human logic putting words in GOD THE FATHERS MOUTH. But your accusing me has everything to do with your logic Comming from your mouth. IMO
Nick, If You , T8, KERWIN, AND WHOEVER ELSE WANT TO BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHER TRUE GOD’S OR “ELOHIMS” SO BE IT, I DO NOT! NOT NOW OR EVER WILL.
peace and love to you and yours. ………………..gene
Hi GB,
“COMON SENSE 101…..if that God who said he looked for other gods and found “NONE” THAT LEAVESONLY ONE OTHER OPTION THOSE gods of the other nations are “FALSE” GOD’S.”
This is your addition derived from logic and not what is written.
You fail to grasp the true meaning.
Others, even men, are called gods but you deny this.
Hi GB,
Instead of standing on a soapbox trumpeting one verse backed up with logic use the principle of 2 cor 13.1 and find other verses that say the same thing. That is how PROOF is shown .
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