The Manuscripts

[Not3in1]

So which version do you prefer Nick? They all seem to have “flaws” in them, no?

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
I prefer nasb but use kjv here to copy\paste as it is simpler not having all the cross references in the text.

[Not3in1]

I wondered how you were so speedy in getting mass quotations in a post. Ha! Are you copying/pasting from what is available here on HeavenNet? I'll have to try that and see if it works – I'm getting savy – slowly but surely.

My kids just bought me an ESV for Mother's Day; I like it so far. When my husband reads the Bible he prefers the NAS as well. I am fond of the ASV myself. Thanks for the info.

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Yep.
ESV is there too.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
For those who want to know more about manuscript choice for the KJV
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textus_Receptus

[NickHassan]

and
http://www.skypoint.com/members/waltzmn/TR.html

The manuscripts were chosen partly to oppose another translation and they were not the oldest available but perhaps the commonest.

[NickHassan]

topical

[seek and you will find]

Nick So what Bible do you use?

Peace and Love Mrs.

[NickHassan]

Hi mrs,
Lots of them

[Stu]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 29 2007,11:43)

So which version do you prefer Nick?  They all seem to have “flaws” in them, no?

The all have the same flaws in them…

Stuart

[seek and you will find]

My Husband has bought several Bibles, He has the N.A.V. and the Old King James and the James Moffat and the German Bible. I use the New King James Version and like it the best. Does it have error in it, yes. I believe Stu is right at least at this, that all have some error in it.
Peace and Love Mrs.

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
On another site you said
“PS…. the part that says “For many are called and few chosen” was added by translators and is not in the oldest manuscripts and some translatons do omit it. It obiviously doesn't belong there either.”

There is no manuscript variation shown on the NIV version available here.
Can you please enlarge on this?

[NickHassan]

For LU

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2006,10:52)

Hi, Clearly Matthew and the other writers made an original copy of his memories. Did they write additional copies? Eusebius of Caesarea said he had an original copy in his library [which BTW had Mt 28.19 as”baptise in my name”]but it was lost when the library was burnt down. Then men copied and translated them to varying degrees of accuracy. Some older manuscripts have only been found since earlier bibles were written. Do they take precedence ? Is every manuscript true? Are all sources of manuscripts good ones? Is older age a reliable proof of autheniticity? Is age reliable? Or is there safety in numbers and we should only believe the most common manuscripts? Some things have only been found in more “recent” manuscripts. Does that affect our perception of their integrity?

Nick,

Did you ever find any answers to all of your questions listed here?

Thanks,
Mandy

[NickHassan]

thanks Not3,
More information would be good.

[Not3in1]

I agree, Nick.

What do you think the plan of God is that we have limited information?

And the information that we have is somewhat tainted?

I wonder what we will be held accountable for and what will be tossed out, per se?

At any rate, I look forward to that Day when we will see him as he is. We will know him. Ah…just that thought thrills me from head to toe!

Love,
Mandy

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
He made it essential that we receive the Spirit.

[TimothyVI]

Hi Nick,
How do you tell the difference between the people that have received the Spirit,
and the people that think they have received the Spirit?

Tim

[NickHassan]

Hi Tim4,
They can tell by comes from their mouth and as the fruit of their lives.
If they have the love of God in them that love will manifest in love for His teachings and in actions.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 18 2008,08:40)

Hi Tim4, They can tell by comes from their mouth and as the fruit of their lives. If they have the love of God in them that love will manifest in love for His teachings and in actions.

Hey Nick,

With all due respect, I think this answer leaves too much guess work.

For instance, the JW' claim they have the Spirit, they have good works, and they certainly love to study the bible. But some here would say that they are deceived! Some won't even acknowledge them as being brother's and sister's in the Lord!

So the question again is, how do we know who has the Spirit and who doesn't? I don't think fruit alone can determine, although it's a good indicator of what is in one's heart…..

I think only the Lord knows who's are his and we shouldn't speculate or say we know who is a child of God and who isn't. This extends to those who believe you have to have a set belief system (in addition to the basic gospel) to be included in the family of God. This shouldn't be, imo.

Mandy

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