The MAN OF SIN

[GeneBalthrop]

who is this man of sin spoken of by the apostle Paul in the book of 2Thes 2; who some think is the antichrist spoken of by the apostle John. lets go through the verses in 2Thes 2, that deal with the subject of the man of sin.

Now, brethern, concerning the comming of our lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to him, we ask you not to be soon shaken in mind or to bisturbed,neither by spirit nor by letter as if from us that the day of Christ has come. Let not anyone decieve you by any means: because unless Not comes the apostasy first,

(the falling away from the True Faith in the one and ONLY TRUE GOD)> Paul here isn saying the first thing to happen is this falling away, but what we can overlook is that this falling away process was gradual and was already starting to form at the time of the original apostles, it was working in the form of an Idology which was forming an Image of another GOD by turnning Jesus who was a flesh and blood man into Very God Himself.as a result creating the MAN OF SIN.

AND IS REVEALED THE MAN OF SIN,
notice both things happen ot the same time,the apostasy and the revelation of the man of sin. They are connected events as one developes so does the other.

THE SON OF PREDITION, WHO OPPOSING AND EXALTING HIMSELF OVER EVERTHING BEING CALLED GOD OR OBJECT OF WORSHIP, SO THAT HE IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD AS GOD TO SIT DOWN, DISPLAYING HIMSELF THAT HE IS GOD.

Question, who is now setting in the Temple of God? is it not Jesus and is he not being Displayed as Very God himself, Notice also it say's he is being desplayed as God it does not say Jesus is saying he is God, Notice also the god is written with a lower case letters in the translated Greek text. But when it comes to where he sits it's in the upper case letters and what he sits as inin upper case letters, we use the lower case god to indecate any thing thats not a real God, but the true God we use the upper case letters. Notice when it comes to where he sits and what he is being desplayed as the upper case GOD is used . This indicates the true place and true God. so this could not imply any one else but Jesus Christ himself. But's it's not the real Jesus it's an IMAGE of him created by a False Fallen Christianity( the apostasy) which turns the real Jesus into God Himself creating the man of sin. notic it say's he is being desplayed as GOD, this false Image of Jesus was not created by him or any of the apostles or any saints of God. The apostasy is the falling away from the One and ONLY TRUE GOD and was already working at the time of the apostles, thats why Paul said the mystery of iniquity was already at work. Making another God is Breaking the first Commandement, “thou shall have no other God besides Me.”, It's an act of Idolartry to creat another GOD, it breakes Gods commandments.

DO YOU NOT REMEMBER YET BEING WIHTNYOU THESE THING I WAS TELLING YOU AND NOW THE HOLDING BACK YOU KNOW,

hear paul was simply saying what has not happened yet, that the man of sin hadn't appeared on the scene yet, because the apostles were holding back the false teachings from infecting the church, but the idology was already starting to form, thats why nthe apostle John said there were already many antichrists even in his day, actually it would not appear fully for another 300 years.

FOR TO BE REVEALED IN HIS TIME,

He would show up at the alotted time .

FOR THE MYSTERY IS ALREADY AT WORK OF LAWLESSNESS;

Here again the apostle Paul shows this false teaching was aready starintg to form, notice what ever this was it would be breaking God's laws and it was already starting to form.

ONLY THE HOLDING BACK NOW UNTIL FROM THE MIDST HE COMES.

Paul is saying that from the midst of fallen christanty (apostasied) would apear the man of sin . Even at the time of Paul there some beginning to turn Jesus from a flesh and blood man in to very GOD himself. This FALSE teaching finally emerged as the DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY and took place at the council of Nicea in 325 A.D. when came forth from the MIDST of the two “christian” belief systems of the ARIANS and ATHANAIAN's the idology that Jesus was (HOMOOUSIOS) God from God. a word proclamed by the pagan Emperor Constantine himself.

AND THEN WILL BR REAVEALD. THE LAWLESS ON WHOM THE lORD WILL CONSUME WITH THE BREATH OF HIS MOUTH AND ABOLISH BY THE APEARING OF HIS COMING.

Why by the breath of his mouth?, because this lawless one is NOT AN ACTUAL PERSON it is an Idology which created a false IMAGE, A LIE about Jesus Christ Himself that why Jesus will abolish it with the breath of his mouth, in other words his words at his comming.

HE WHOSE COMMING IS ACCORDING TOTHE WORKING OF SATAN,

satan's work is the work of deception so this false image of Jesus would be the working of satan

WITH ALL POWER

Emperor Consantine ruler of Rome which controlled all the power of the world of that day.

AND SIGNS AND WONDERS OF FALSEHOOD

Consantine said he saw a vision of a cross in the sky and was told by a bishop if he painted the sign of a cross he would win the upcomming battle, which he did and also won the battle making Emperor Maximus of All Rome. as a result of that and other situations he declared “christanity” as the state religion .

AND IN ALL DECEPTION OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS AMONG THE ONES PERISHING (why) BECAUSE LOVE OF TRUTH NOT THEY RECIEVE FOR THEM TO BE SAVED. AND BECAUSE OF THIS
GOD WILL SEND TO THEM THE WORKING OF DELUSION IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BELIEVE (THE LIE), SO THAT THEY SHOULD BE JUDGED ALL THE ONES NOT BELIEVING TRUTH BUT TAKING PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS'.

Notice it say's to believe (THE LIE) and the definte article (the) is used why, because its not a real person it's a LIE about a person and that person is Jesus Himself, It say's in the book of Jude that we should contend for the faith that was once and for all delivered un to the saints, and that faith is believe that there is only ONE TRUE GOD, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and Man the (MAN) Jesus Christ.who when praying said THOU art the ONLY TRUE GOD, and he wasen't talking about himself either. The pinnacle of all faith is to believe that there is only one true God, thats all there ever was and thats all there ever will be. A God who brought all things into existence by his self and his self alone. Just as he said “I am the Lord who has made all things, who ALONE streched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by MYSELF. If we turn our hearts to him as the ONLY TRUE GOD He will give us the understanding to walk with Him and He will teach us all truth, Just as God said in Isa 45:1 “I AM THE LORD AND THERE IS NO OTHER ; AND IS NO GOD BESIDES ME.

[IM4Truth]

Hello Gene

All the Apostles thought that Jesus would return in their lifetime, at first. What Paul is telling his church is actually a prophecy. He says, not only is Christ not returning soon, but there would be a falling away from the truth first. And it would be this falling away, that would identify him as the man of perdition, the man of sin, as Antichrist, who caused this falling away.
It has been estimated that this Antichrist is responsible for the death of 50 million people, saints, over the period of his reign, 1260 years. No telling how many more fell away from the truth out of fear for torture and death.
False teachers had already infiltrated the churches during the time of the Apostles, Gal 1:6-9; but the one who was holding back Antichrist from becoming “Pontifex Maximus”, Chief religious Ruler, were not the Apostles. Pontifex Maximus was a title of the Roman Emperor, and he would not share that title with anyone, neither would anyone dare claim it while he was still around. And it was “He”, the Roman Emperors, that was holding “Him”, the Antichrist, back.
In 565 A.D. Justinian died. He was the last Emperor of the east and the west; now he who was holding him back was taking out of the way. And the Pope of Rome was more than ready to take his place; in fact, it is the Pope who became the image, the image of the Beast/Rome. Guess who calls himself “Pontifex Maximus” today?
Constantine had stopped the persecution of Christians in 313 A.D., and did in fact made Christianity the religion of his Empire in 324 A.D., the “Roman Universal Church”. I think we are all familiar with that name?
It was Constantine who in 321 A.D. changed Sabbath worship to Sunday.
And in 325 A.D. presided over the first Ecumenical Council at Nicea. With over 300 Bishops present, the trinity doctrine was adopted, and it was decided that the commemorating of Christs death be no longer kept; enforced by death to all who would still do; instead, the resurrection be celebrated on Sunday.

God bless

[NickHassan]

I do not see why we need two threads on the same subject.

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