The lord our god is one lord

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  • #204321
    dspesh
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    1st point

    John 1:1
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    John 1:14
    And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us …
    John 10:30
    I and my Father are one.
    John 14:9
    … he that hath seen me hath seen the Father…
    Isaiah 7:14
    …Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
    •Immanuel means “God is with us

    **Jesus and God are One… There is only One God…and there are 5 passages above that say what the mean, and mean what they say.

    2nd point

    Acts 19
    1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
    2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
    3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
    4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
    5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
    6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

    ** The above passage shows those who had been baptized by John, being baptized again in the Name of the Lord Jesus.

    3rd point

    **Baptism is for the remission  of sins.Acts 2:38 … Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    **So, do you think Jesus had to be baptized? Did Jesus sin?

    4th Point

    **In the time of the Law (the Ten Commandments) only the Jews had salvation.
    **In the time period Grace (believe and be born again) we can all have salvation.

    **Please do not think that I am saying that the law is not important. It is very important and does apply, but now we can all repent and be baptized. Because of the blood of Jesus, that is why we do not need animal sacrifices anymore.

    Have a nice day!  :)

    #204331
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (dspesh @ July 17 2010,10:59)
    1st point

    John 1:1
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    John 1:14
    And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us …
    John 10:30
    I and my Father are one.
    John 14:9
    … he that hath seen me hath seen the Father…
    Isaiah 7:14
    …Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
    •Immanuel means “God is with us

    **Jesus and God are One… There is only One God…and there are 5 passages above that say what the mean, and mean what they say.

    2nd point

    Acts 19
    1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
    2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
    3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
    4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
    5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
    6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

    ** The above passage shows those who had been baptized by John, being baptized again in the Name of the Lord Jesus.

    3rd point

    **Baptism is for the remission  of sins.Acts 2:38 … Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    **So, do you think Jesus had to be baptized? Did Jesus sin?

    4th Point

    **In the time of the Law (the Ten Commandments) only the Jews had salvation.
    **In the time period Grace (believe and be born again) we can all have salvation.

    **Please do not think that I am saying that the law is not important. It is very important and does apply, but now we can all repent and be baptized. Because of the blood of Jesus, that is why we do not need animal sacrifices anymore.

    Have a nice day!  :)


    Your first point is moot and Isaiah 7:14 is referring to Hezekiah
    God was with Hezekiah

    Acts 19 does not make any sense since Jesus preached the Holy Spirit before Paul came and all the disciples knew of the Holy spirit as well, not to mention that John the baptist knew of the Hoy Spirit. The problem is Paul is a false prophet and you believe in Paul more than you believe in the Messiah.

    Jesus said that John had to baptize him and since Jesus didn't sin then he must have been baptized on behalf of Israel

    Animal sacrifices were never needed you are confused, read Jonah and get rid of your evil thoughts

    #204346
    dspesh
    Participant

    2 Timothy 2:16
    But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

    #204460
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (dspesh @ July 17 2010,15:01)
    2 Timothy 2:16
    But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.


    Hi Dspesh,

    That is why BD was kicked out of “the believers section”,
    because Asana bodhitharta doesn't Believe in “Our YHVH”!
    Matt.18:16-17 But if he(Asana bodhitharta) will not hear thee,
    then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two
    or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he(BD)
    shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect
    to hear the church, let him(Asana bodhitharta) be unto thee(dspesh)
    as an heathen man (a non-believer) and a publican. (Galatians 1:6-9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #204478
    dspesh
    Participant

    Thank you… :)

    #204570
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (dspesh @ July 18 2010,00:25)
    Thank you… :)


    ED just lied to you so don't thank him plus he keeps using the name of God in vain. Jesus said Hallowed be thy name but ED throws around the sacred name of God like it is nothing, If Jesus didn't run around saying it why would I therefore to simply say “THE GOD” is the right way and in arabic that is to say ALLAH.

    ED Profanes the holy and you congratulate him?

    I have shown you things that are true and because you don't like them you disregard them although I have proved them to you.

    You believe that Jesus is his own Father, that Jesus is God and yet was baptized by a Man and then you say that this man John the baptist had no meaningful baptisms.

    By the way ED doesn't believe that Jesus is God either did he mention that?

    #204574
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 17 2010,21:22)

    Quote (dspesh @ July 17 2010,15:01)
    2 Timothy 2:16
    But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.


    Hi Dspesh,

    That is why BD was kicked out of “the believers section”,
    because Asana bodhitharta doesn't Believe in “Our YHVH”!
    Matt.18:16-17 But if he(Asana bodhitharta) will not hear thee,
    then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two
    or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he(BD)
    shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect
    to hear the church, let him(Asana bodhitharta) be unto thee(dspesh)
    as an heathen man (a non-believer) and a publican. (Galatians 1:6-9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED would you please stop trying to twist the scriptures to create new text

    Matthew 18:15-17 (King James Version)

    15Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

    16But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

    17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

    The text above has to do with personal disputes amongst the brethren and not studying the word of God or arguing about the belief in God so why make it sound that way?

    #204854
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (dspesh @ July 18 2010,00:25)
    Thank you… :)


    Hi Dspesh,

    Your welcome and God bless! (';')

    Ed J

    #205134
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2010,11:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 13 2010,14:58)
    Hi dspesh,

    BD stops believing The Bible when the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) contradicts The Bible.
    For example BD doesn't believe in the Gospel, because the 'book of fraud' teaches against it.

    Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
    into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
    be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
    or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
    preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
    man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
    ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah – a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil).  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #46)

    The Gospel of Jesus is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God:

    And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.
    Matthew 4:22-24

    And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
    Matthew 24:13-15

    Jesus taught the Gospel God gave him to teach but most Christians teach another gospel that paul created and that is the Gospel about Jesus not of Jesus and that is why the end hasn't come yet it's because the TRUE GOSPEL must be preached to all.


    Greetings B…. The Gospel (good news) that Jesus preached was one of the coming kingdom on this earth of which God will set up his government to rule and we are all invited to live in it provided we meet the requisites…No Drunks,No boasters,No murderers,No thieves,No adulterers to name a few…Pauls Gospel was the same with only one difference and that was, his commission was to preach among the gentiles where Jesus' was sent to the Jews….Gods plan is complex to wise and the learned,but the kids have no problem understanding…

    #205163
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ July 21 2010,00:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2010,11:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 13 2010,14:58)
    Hi dspesh,

    BD stops believing The Bible when the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) contradicts The Bible.
    For example BD doesn't believe in the Gospel, because the 'book of fraud' teaches against it.

    Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
    into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
    be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
    or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
    preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
    man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
    ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah – a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil).  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #46)

    The Gospel of Jesus is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God:

    And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.
    Matthew 4:22-24

    And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
    Matthew 24:13-15

    Jesus taught the Gospel God gave him to teach but most Christians teach another gospel that paul created and that is the Gospel about Jesus not of Jesus and that is why the end hasn't come yet it's because the TRUE GOSPEL must be preached to all.


    Greetings B…. The Gospel (good news) that Jesus preached was one of the coming kingdom on this earth of which God will set up his government to rule and we are all invited to live in it provided we meet the requisites…No Drunks,No boasters,No murderers,No thieves,No adulterers to name a few…Pauls Gospel was the same with only one difference and that was, his commission was to preach among the gentiles where Jesus' was sent to the Jews….Gods plan is complex to wise and the learned,but the kids have no problem understanding…


    I agree.

    #208829
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2010,18:19)
    Jesus is not God and God says HE is not a man

    Why do you not Worship The God of Jesus


    Bod,

    Jesus was a man. When did God say that HE is not a man?

    True Jesus is not God.

    Whoever wrote this is sadly mistaken on almost every theological viewpoint and apparently doesn't know who his God is. In time maybe he will learn. son = father (what a lie and deception)

    I'll close with this, Thomas was confused and didn't believe dozens of people that physically SAW Jesus alive and dishpan wants to be believe this confused person, :) So sad! :(

    The Professor

    #208834
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 14 2010,02:38)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2010,18:19)
    Jesus is not God and God says HE is not a man

    Why do you not Worship The God of Jesus


    Bod,

    Jesus was a man.  When did God say that HE is not a man?

    True Jesus is not God.

    Whoever wrote this is sadly mistaken on almost every theological viewpoint and apparently doesn't know who his God is.  In time maybe he will learn.  son = father (what a lie and deception)

    I'll close with this, Thomas was confused and didn't believe dozens of people that physically SAW Jesus alive and dishpan wants to be believe this confused person, :)  So sad! :(

    The Professor


    I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
    Hosea 11:8-10

    #208845
    kejonn
    Participant

    *snicker*

    I used to debate mythology too!

    #228792
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 14 2010,02:38)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2010,18:19)
    Jesus is not God and God says HE is not a man

    Why do you not Worship The God of Jesus


    Bod,

    Jesus was a man.  When did God say that HE is not a man?

    True Jesus is not God.

    Whoever wrote this is sadly mistaken on almost every theological viewpoint and apparently doesn't know who his God is.  In time maybe he will learn.  son = father (what a lie and deception)

    I'll close with this, Thomas was confused and didn't believe dozens of people that physically SAW Jesus alive and dishpan wants to be believe this confused person, :)  So sad! :(

    The Professor


    I too agree with you Professor. I am happy to see brother Bodhi is bringing excellent arguments to support Yahweh alone is God. I appreciate his views too.

    Peace to you both
    Adam

    #228824

    100% proof that Jesus is not Almighty God.

    Everyone lesser then Jehovah has animal characteristics or qualities. I.E. Jesus is not as the lamb and lion, the devil is known as “the original serpent”, people who oppose the message are known as swine. Jehovah is known as…???

    #228874
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ Dec. 15 2010,13:49)
    100% proof that Jesus is not Almighty God.

    Everyone lesser then Jehovah has animal characteristics or qualities. I.E. Jesus is not as the lamb and lion, the devil is known as “the  original serpent”, people who oppose the message are known as swine. Jehovah is known as…???


    Your 100% right

    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
    Romans 1:22-24

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