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  • #352939
    kerwin
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    Quote (t8 @ July 31 2013,16:01)
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    Quote (kerwin @ July 27 2013,07:33)

    Quote (t8 @ July 26 2013,17:46)
    Consciousness.


    T8,

    I am not sure an earthworm is very conscious.  I was thinking en-souled.  They may be the same thing.  

    The robots we have today are primitive and robots with self awareness may come to be as technology increases.


    What made Adam a living soul?
    God's breath/spirit.

    Does God breathe into robots?
    If a robot is programmed to give adequate responses, does that make it alive?


    T8,

    God has not yet breathed life into a robot and man cannot as it is the Lord's breath. The best man can do is simulate a creature with a soul. Never the less both living souls and robots are artifacts, evidence of intelligent design.

    #352976
    Proclaimer
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    Agreed.

    #353313
    princess
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    Quote (t8 @ July 31 2013,21:04)

    Quote (princess @ July 29 2013,15:12)
    When a man as yourself believes in the christian bible without thought I expect nothing less. You do not disappoint. I do not expect anytime soon will be referring to your god as 'she'. LOL.


    In other words, you have no come back on my words.
    I'll take that as a victory.


    t8 cutie.

    admit to the female of your god. then remove it when you decribe your god (ref: Johannine comma) he, god.
    its your own t8, you can have it. see no need for it.

    spirit cannot be described.

    #353317
    princess
    Participant

    +t8, your god is not the tough guy you make him out to be. clap of the hands the universe was born. took your god twice to create humanity.
    big tough guy your hegod is.

    #353323
    terraricca
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    Quote (princess @ Aug. 04 2013,19:43)
    +t8, your god is not the tough guy you make him out to be. clap of the hands the universe was born. took your god twice to create humanity.
    big tough guy your hegod is.


    hi princess

    being tough is being mean ??? God is not mean ,men are,

    the truth is very simple ;either you believe in God of the scriptures or you do not ;what I have still difficulties with to understand is this ;why are some cannot accept him and some can ,is their something within us that can be triggered or is it just our heart foundation ,??? it still puzzles me

    #353326
    princess
    Participant

    tough as in strength t.

    simple truth, it is what you know.

    #353348
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ Aug. 04 2013,20:55)
    tough as in strength t.

    simple truth, it is what you know.


    princess

    what I know is good ,and sins my life in this world as been very tumultuous and full of deception ,by the human race strength and knowledge of deception ,when we analyze all configurations ,wisdom tells us that God's way his better by far,

    #353358
    kerwin
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    Quote (princess @ Aug. 04 2013,19:43)
    +t8, your god is not the tough guy you make him out to be. clap of the hands the universe was born. took your god twice to create humanity.
    big tough guy your hegod is.


    Princess,

    Did T8 say it took 2 times for God to create humanity or did you get that claim from another source?

    #353402
    Proclaimer
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    Quote (princess @ Aug. 05 2013,03:34)
    t8 cutie.

    admit to the female of your god. then remove it when you decribe your god (ref: Johannine comma) he, god.
    its your own t8, you can have it. see no need for it.

    spirit cannot be described.


    God is a spirit not flesh. So any female and make attributes are just that, attributes. Like nurturing, agape love, charity, creative, headship…

    He made man in his image and obviously gave these traits to mankind, but a different sprinkling of each.

    #353403
    Proclaimer
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    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 05 2013,09:55)
    Princess,

    Did T8 say it took 2 times for God to create humanity or did you get that claim from another source?


    She said it.

    #353404
    Proclaimer
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    Quote (princess @ Aug. 05 2013,03:43)
    +t8, your god is not the tough guy you make him out to be. clap of the hands the universe was born. took your god twice to create humanity.
    big tough guy your hegod is.


    You obviously have a problem with God.
    You need to work it out with him.

    #353411
    kerwin
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    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 05 2013,11:07)

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 05 2013,09:55)
    Princess,

    Did T8 say it took 2 times for God to create humanity or did you get that claim from another source?


    She said it.


    T8,

    Do you know what she is speaking of?

    #353514
    princess
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 05 2013,16:08)

    Quote (princess @ Aug. 05 2013,03:43)
    +t8, your god is not the tough guy you make him out to be. clap of the hands the universe was born. took your god twice to create humanity.
    big tough guy your hegod is.


    You obviously have a problem with God.
    You need to work it out with him.


    no need to pursue the matter t8, it is what it is no more or less.
    perhaps you should seek council from him in regards to when questions of such matters are brought up that you are able to give adequate answers.

    So far it is not working, cutie.

    your are very mistaken I don't have problems with gods, i just have a problem with how the truth is presented by their followers. call it what you want, just don't call it the truth.

    #353515
    princess
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 05 2013,06:55)

    Quote (princess @ Aug. 04 2013,19:43)
    +t8, your god is not the tough guy you make him out to be. clap of the hands the universe was born. took your god twice to create humanity.
    big tough guy your hegod is.


    Princess,

    Did T8 say it took 2 times for God to create humanity or did you get that claim from another source?


    Quote
    but for [r]Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him. 21 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. 22 The Lord God [t]fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. 23 The man said,


    Gen

    unless of course Kerwin, you belive in Lilith.

    #353516
    princess
    Participant

    *edited for easier reading & grammer errors*

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 05 2013,06:55)

    Quote (princess @ Aug. 04 2013,19:43)
    +t8, your god is not the tough guy you make him out to be. clap of the hands the universe was born. took your god twice to create humanity.
    big tough guy your hegod is.


    Princess,

    Did T8 say it took 2 times for God to create humanity or did you get that claim from another source?

    Gen…but for [r]Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him. 21 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. 22 The Lord God [t]fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.

    unless of course Kerwin, you believe in Lilith.

    #353643
    kerwin
    Participant

    Princess,

    I don't believe humans transform into demons and I don't believe in Lilith. Both are Jewish myths.

    I assume from that, that you are speaking of what some claim sounds like separate accounts of creation in Genesis 1 and 2. Am I correct?

    #353704
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 05 2013,20:45)

    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 05 2013,11:07)

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 05 2013,09:55)
    Princess,

    Did T8 say it took 2 times for God to create humanity or did you get that claim from another source?


    She said it.


    T8,

    Do you know what she is speaking of?


    No I don't. Maybe she is making reference to the Lilith myth. I have never mentioned it before, so she is not quoting my words.

    #353705
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Oh, I see that Lilith has already been mentioned.

    Princess, you are backing down and have not made a case for an alternative explanation to God.

    The Universe came from:
    a) Nothing
    b) something eternal
    c) God

    So given that you are quitting as I knew you would, you too (like Stu and others) have failed this test thereby proving that your denial of God is not based on logic, rather it is just that you do not like the idea to begin with and thus do not believe the only logical conclusion.

    I will be honest with you. This debate played out exactly as I expected.

    #353706
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ Aug. 07 2013,13:56)
    perhaps you should seek council from him in regards to when questions of such matters are brought up that you are able to give adequate answers.


    What question?

    #353719
    kerwin
    Participant

    T8,

    Is Princess an atheist?

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