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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,19:21) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 24 2011,17:24) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,15:38) Hi Wake-up, Thank you for adding clearing to show us all your position.
Your latest post, however, presents me with another question…Do you believe this part of John 1:1: …, “and the Word was God.” ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Edj.Maybe I can make it more clear if I use an example.
Ok, we are created in the image of God,and we also are given each of us our word. My word is me,and your word is you.
but your word is not in charge of you, but you are in charge of your word.Your word can NEVER be in charge of you.
if you are a king in charge, you also can send your word to an other country; and your word will be spoken in that country.Anyone that dishonour your word is dihonouring you.
And so also is Gods word send to another country,(earth).
And the world has dishonoured Gods word.your word is inside you,but not incharge of you.
you are in charge.Just like Jesus the word of God is not in charge of God.(My father is greater than I)(I can do nothing by my self)(the one who sent is greater than the one who is send)The servant is not greater than the master.You and your word are one.Gods word has life in him,all are created by Gods word(Let there be light:word spoken,and there was light.
God can make his word flesh,and he did,and his name is Jesus.A king will give his command,and it will be done.
The kings breath is his word,when he speaks.Everything is made by the breath of his mouth Pslm33:6.
Is this clear now?Thank you seeker of truth.
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up, clear as mud.Quote My word is me,and your word is you.
I don't get it, you say… “My word is me, and your word is you”
…then why wouldn't God's word also be God as John 1:1 says it is?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EDj.I did say that the word was God as in john1:1.
And the word was God.
But the word depend on the owner; the father.
Without God there is no word; the word can not exist by it selfYour word can not exist without you.If there is no you there can not be your word. Yet your word is you.You can exist without your word.
Is the mud filtered out now?
This is the best I can explain it.greetings .
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,15:37) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,19:21)
Wake-up said:Quote My word is me,and your word is you.
I don't get it, you say… “My word is me, and your word is you”
…then why wouldn't God's word also be God as John 1:1 says it is?God bless
Ed J
Hi EDj.I did say that the word was God as in john1:1.
And the word was God.greetings .
wakeup.
Hi Wake,Now that you agree with me: “God's word is God”,
why would you add to God's word by saying
God's word is also someone else?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Wakeup,
I can't find the threads where I asked you this before:
What is your opinion of this site?
Do you think the KJV people are trying to gain name recognition for the JWs?
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 04 2012,04:27) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 03 2012,15:51) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2012,15:33) Hi PIERRE. This is what the Holy bible is for; for instructions,to guide us to the father,but many prefer to read books written by the secular learned men.Cause they have more confidence in them.Gods book is only for the humble, and our teacher is the Holy spirit that Jesus will send to the true seekers.
regards
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,I don't want to sound like I'm nitpicking but …
The Bible leads us to Jesus' ransom sacrifice,
which brings the spirit of our father to us. <– Do you agree?God bless
Ed J
Pierre?
edjwhat his the spirit
so that it can be broth to us ,
answer and I will be able to respond to your question then
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2012,02:34) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 04 2012,04:27) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 03 2012,15:51) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2012,15:33) Hi PIERRE. This is what the Holy bible is for; for instructions,to guide us to the father,but many prefer to read books written by the secular learned men.Cause they have more confidence in them.Gods book is only for the humble, and our teacher is the Holy spirit that Jesus will send to the true seekers.
regards
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,I don't want to sound like I'm nitpicking but …
The Bible leads us to Jesus' ransom sacrifice,
which brings the spirit of our father to us. <– Do you agree?God bless
Ed J
Pierre?
edjwhat his the spirit
so that it can be broth to us ,
answer and I will be able to respond to your question then
Pierre
God's HolySpiritQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,21:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,15:37) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,19:21)
Wake-up said:Quote My word is me,and your word is you.
I don't get it, you say… “My word is me, and your word is you”
…then why wouldn't God's word also be God as John 1:1 says it is?God bless
Ed J
Hi EDj.I did say that the word was God as in john1:1.
And the word was God.greetings .
wakeup.
Hi Wake,Now that you agree with me: “God's word is God”,
why would you add to God's word by saying
God's word is also someone else?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
hI EDJ.Yes brother,Gods word is God,and here is understanding that Gods word is subject to God,you agree with this.
God always had his word in him; but there was a time that God let out that word: and that time was when God started creating,for the angels had a beginning.
IN THE BEGINNING,WAS THE WORD.–(you can never say; in the beginning was God,can you)
THERE WAS A BEGINNING WHEN GOD SPOKE THINGS INTO EXISTENCE. you agree.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,09:49) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,21:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,15:37) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,19:21)
Wake-up said:Quote My word is me,and your word is you.
I don't get it, you say… “My word is me, and your word is you”
…then why wouldn't God's word also be God as John 1:1 says it is?God bless
Ed J
Hi EDj.I did say that the word was God as in john1:1.
And the word was God.greetings .
wakeup.
Hi Wake,Now that you agree with me: “God's word is God”,
why would you add to God's word by saying
God's word is also someone else?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
hI EDJ.Yes brother,Gods word is God,and here is understanding that Gods word is subject to God,you agree with this.
God always had his word in him; but there was a time that God let out that word: and that time was when God started creating,for the angels had a beginning.
IN THE BEGINNING,WAS THE WORD.–((1)you can never say; in the beginning was God,can you)
(2)THERE WAS A BEGINNING WHEN GOD SPOKE THINGS INTO EXISTENCE. you agree.wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,1) If God existed “before” there was a beginning,
then why are you saying, you can't say?…Quote in the beginning was God
2) YesGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,16:49) Yes brother,Gods word is God…….
So then it was God Himself who became flesh and had the glory of the only begotten OF God? How does that work? Is God His own “only begotten”?Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,21:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,15:37) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,19:21)
Wake-up said:Quote My word is me,and your word is you.
I don't get it, you say… “My word is me, and your word is you”
…then why wouldn't God's word also be God as John 1:1 says it is?God bless
Ed J
Hi EDj.I did say that the word was God as in john1:1.
And the word was God.greetings .
wakeup.
Hi Wake,Now that you agree with me: “God's word is God”,
why would you add to God's word by saying
God's word is also someone else?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EDJDid isay that EDJ?
Gods word is Gods word.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,02:30) Hi Wakeup, I can't find the threads where I asked you this before:
What is your opinion of this site?
Do you think the KJV people are trying to gain name recognition for the JWs?
Hi Mike b.I think we have to be patient,it will take time to clear up what we have been fed with in the past.
People like to stick to the old,and if you confront them with something they never heard before; they will stand up and defend them self.
We must stay with the scriptures.(the flesh of Christ.)
Strange flesh will give you a stomach upset.Thank you mike.
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,11:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,09:49) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,21:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,15:37) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,19:21)
Wake-up said:Quote My word is me,and your word is you.
I don't get it, you say… “My word is me, and your word is you”
…then why wouldn't God's word also be God as John 1:1 says it is?God bless
Ed J
Hi EDj.I did say that the word was God as in john1:1.
And the word was God.greetings .
wakeup.
Hi Wake,Now that you agree with me: “God's word is God”,
why would you add to God's word by saying
God's word is also someone else?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
hI EDJ.Yes brother,Gods word is God,and here is understanding that Gods word is subject to God,you agree with this.
God always had his word in him; but there was a time that God let out that word: and that time was when God started creating,for the angels had a beginning.
IN THE BEGINNING,WAS THE WORD.–((1)you can never say; in the beginning was God,can you)
(2)THERE WAS A BEGINNING WHEN GOD SPOKE THINGS INTO EXISTENCE. you agree.wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,1) If God existed “before” there was a beginning,
then why are you saying, you can't say?…Quote in the beginning was God
2) YesGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EDJ.I think I am very clear about all that,and if you choose not to see; thats up to you.
peace.
wakeup.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,16:49) Yes brother,Gods word is God…….
So then it was God Himself who became flesh and had the glory of the only begotten OF God? How does that work? Is God His own “only begotten”?
MikeB.I thought I was clear on that,but it seems that some more explaining need to be given.
Is your word you,or is it someone else?
No; your word is you.But at the same time you are in charge of your word,Your word is not in charge of you.do you agree?
God and his word are one,but God is in charge of his word.agree?Jesus; the word of God; is not in charge of God.
Jesus is the word made flesh,and God spoke through Jesus.
Now we can see God speeking through Jesus.He is the express image of God,speaking.Jesus could not speak without God speaking through him.
What the father say ,that I speak.so God is speaking all along.
Even it is a person you see; he still is the word.
God and his word are not two persons; God is one; with his word inside him.You are one with your word inside you,and you are in charge.
You and your word are not two,but one.
I hope this will clarify things more.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,23:17) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,11:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,09:49) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,21:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,15:37) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,19:21)
Wake-up said:Quote My word is me,and your word is you.
I don't get it, you say… “My word is me, and your word is you”
…then why wouldn't God's word also be God as John 1:1 says it is?God bless
Ed J
Hi EDj.I did say that the word was God as in john1:1.
And the word was God.greetings .
wakeup.
Hi Wake,Now that you agree with me: “God's word is God”,
why would you add to God's word by saying
God's word is also someone else?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
hI EDJ.Yes brother,Gods word is God,and here is understanding that Gods word is subject to God,you agree with this.
God always had his word in him; but there was a time that God let out that word: and that time was when God started creating,for the angels had a beginning.
IN THE BEGINNING,WAS THE WORD.–((1)you can never say; in the beginning was God,can you)
(2)THERE WAS A BEGINNING WHEN GOD SPOKE THINGS INTO EXISTENCE. you agree.wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,1) If God existed “before” there was a beginning,
then why are you saying, you can't say?…Quote in the beginning was God
2) YesGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EDJ.I think I am very clear about all that,and if you choose not to see; thats up to you.
peace.
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,If God was there “before” the beginning, then God was
certainly there at the beginning as well; do you agree?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2012,01:21) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,23:17) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 09 2012,11:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,09:49) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2012,21:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,15:37) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,19:21)
Wake-up said:Quote My word is me,and your word is you.
I don't get it, you say… “My word is me, and your word is you”
…then why wouldn't God's word also be God as John 1:1 says it is?God bless
Ed J
Hi EDj.I did say that the word was God as in john1:1.
And the word was God.greetings .
wakeup.
Hi Wake,Now that you agree with me: “God's word is God”,
why would you add to God's word by saying
God's word is also someone else?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
hI EDJ.Yes brother,Gods word is God,and here is understanding that Gods word is subject to God,you agree with this.
God always had his word in him; but there was a time that God let out that word: and that time was when God started creating,for the angels had a beginning.
IN THE BEGINNING,WAS THE WORD.–((1)you can never say; in the beginning was God,can you)
(2)THERE WAS A BEGINNING WHEN GOD SPOKE THINGS INTO EXISTENCE. you agree.wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,1) If God existed “before” there was a beginning,
then why are you saying, you can't say?…Quote in the beginning was God
2) YesGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EDJ.I think I am very clear about all that,and if you choose not to see; thats up to you.
peace.
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,If God was there “before” the beginning, then God was
certainly there at the beginning as well; do you agree?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ. GOD HAS NO BEGINNING.YOU AGREE?IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD??
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,
Since we both agree that God had no beginning,
God, therefore, was certainly there at the beginning. <– do you agree or no? …if no why?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,07:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,16:49) Yes brother,Gods word is God…….
So then it was God Himself who became flesh and had the glory of the only begotten OF God? How does that work? Is God His own “only begotten”?
MikeB.I thought I was clear on that,but it seems that some more explaining need to be given.
Is your word you,or is it someone else?
No; your word is you.But at the same time you are in charge of your word,Your word is not in charge of you.do you agree?
God and his word are one,but God is in charge of his word.agree?
And is YOUR word your “only begotten Son”?Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,06:12) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,02:30) Hi Wakeup, What is your opinion of this site?
Do you think the KJV people are trying to gain name recognition for the JWs?
Hi Mike b.I think we have to be patient,it will take time to clear up what we have been fed with in the past.
People like to stick to the old,and if you confront them with something they never heard before; they will stand up and defend them self.
We must stay with the scriptures.(the flesh of Christ.)
Strange flesh will give you a stomach upset.Thank you mike.
wakeup.
I don't know what your post means. But let me ask you this:When God gave His name to Moses, do you think He intended for us to use that name, or just blow it off?
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,19:21) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 24 2011,17:24) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 24 2011,15:38) Hi Wake-up, Thank you for adding clearing to show us all your position.
Your latest post, however, presents me with another question…Do you believe this part of John 1:1: …, “and the Word was God.” ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Edj.Maybe I can make it more clear if I use an example.
Ok, we are created in the image of God,and we also are given each of us our word. My word is me,and your word is you.
but your word is not in charge of you, but you are in charge of your word.Your word can NEVER be in charge of you.
if you are a king in charge, you also can send your word to an other country; and your word will be spoken in that country.Anyone that dishonour your word is dihonouring you.
And so also is Gods word send to another country,(earth).
And the world has dishonoured Gods word.your word is inside you,but not incharge of you.
you are in charge.Just like Jesus the word of God is not in charge of God.(My father is greater than I)(I can do nothing by my self)(the one who sent is greater than the one who is send)The servant is not greater than the master.You and your word are one.Gods word has life in him,all are created by Gods word(Let there be light:word spoken,and there was light.
God can make his word flesh,and he did,and his name is Jesus.A king will give his command,and it will be done.
The kings breath is his word,when he speaks.Everything is made by the breath of his mouth Pslm33:6.
Is this clear now?Thank you seeker of truth.
wakeup.
Hi Wake-up, clear as mud.Quote My word is me,and your word is you.
I don't get it, you say… “My word is me, and your word is you”
…then why wouldn't God's word also be God as John 1:1 says it is?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EDJ.Did not john 1:1 say and the word was God?
But it also says in the beginning was the word.
We know God has no beginning?
So why this contradiction?
No; it is not a contradiction, if it has been revealed to you.
This is not just a mystery,but a great mystery.
Luke 10:22.–no man knows the father but the son,and no man knows the son ,but the father; and he whom the son will reveal him.greetings.
wakeup..
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2012,11:11) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,07:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,16:49) Yes brother,Gods word is God…….
So then it was God Himself who became flesh and had the glory of the only begotten OF God? How does that work? Is God His own “only begotten”?
MikeB.I thought I was clear on that,but it seems that some more explaining need to be given.
Is your word you,or is it someone else?
No; your word is you.But at the same time you are in charge of your word,Your word is not in charge of you.do you agree?
God and his word are one,but God is in charge of his word.agree?
And is YOUR word your “only begotten Son”?
Mikeb.If you can translate your word,into a person, yes.
But i doubt it.wakeup.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2012,11:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2012,06:12) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,02:30) Hi Wakeup, What is your opinion of this site?
Do you think the KJV people are trying to gain name recognition for the JWs?
Hi Mike b.I think we have to be patient,it will take time to clear up what we have been fed with in the past.
People like to stick to the old,and if you confront them with something they never heard before; they will stand up and defend them self.
We must stay with the scriptures.(the flesh of Christ.)
Strange flesh will give you a stomach upset.Thank you mike.
wakeup.
I don't know what your post means. But let me ask you this:When God gave His name to Moses, do you think He intended for us to use that name, or just blow it off?
Mikeb.God did not reveal his name to moses,he just said I AM THAT I AM. This is a statement: I am everything,I am all.
Tell the children of israel; i am the God of abraham,isaac,and jacob. THIS IS MY NAME FOR EVER.(ex.3:14.15.)
He did not say my name is Jehovah or yhwh.The jws are selling a product,called by the name jehovahs witnesses. Not the flock, but the tract society,you must understand this.Using Gods name to promote their religion.
Dont be offended by this ok.
peace.
wakeup.
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